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Petulant ego maniac who took a job on Albin's first staff and then quickly bailed. +1. Back to Top Mike Coleman Administrator Member Since: 12/21/2004 Location: Near the Pristine Sandy Shores of Lake Erie, OH Post Count: 1,623 Status: Offline     RE: Possible Coaching Candidates    Posted: 12/10/2024 9:43:30 AM  Brian Smith was available when Nick Rolovich was fired for not getting a COVID shot incidentally at the same time Tettleton left for the NFL. Maybe a common connection put them in touch, but Smith describes it on ohiobobcats.com as he and Albin “started talking” and found out they had a lot in common. I don't see how Cromer was involved in any way. Back to Top SBH General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 4,174 Status: Offline     RE: Possible Coaching Candidates    Posted: 12/10/2024 9:45:35 AM  Maybe a Will Cromer connection? I wonder if he has any influence in this soap opera. Back to Top Carnac General User Member Since: 12/7/2012 Post Count: 44 Status: Offline     RE: Possible Coaching Candidates    Posted: 12/10/2024 9:54:19 AM  I wouldn’t mind having Brian as HC and Rolovich as OC/QB coach. Back to Top 100%Cat General User Member Since: 1/17/2013 Post Count: 2,594 Status: Offline     RE: Possible Coaching Candidates    Posted: 12/10/2024 10:40:17 AM  SBH wrote: 100%Cat wrote: SBH wrote: OhioCatFan wrote: I think we should hire Smith or Nowinsky, but I’ll bet Julie will go outside because she’ll want to make a hire that’ll be “her man.” She’ll not be looking for what is best for the program long-term, but what makes the biggest media splash and get her name in the headlines. I hope I’m wrong, but that’s my guess out here in land of Oz. She never considered doing that when Frank retired. She immediately hired Albin. She needs to do the same now...fast. Slightly different situation, with Frank retiring abruptly in July, 2 months before the start of the season. Timing is even tighter here given what's at stake. In July they had kids in the program and no portal. Today... Fair point. Back to Top Mike Coleman Administrator Member Since: 12/21/2004 Location: Near the Pristine Sandy Shores of Lake Erie, OH Post Count: 1,623 Status: Offline     RE: Possible Coaching Candidates    Posted: 12/10/2024 11:00:44 AM  I like Smith and think he is ready. However, we didn't bother to interview Urban Meyer when we hired Brian Knorr. Two years later, they put 72 on us. Consistency is great, but not without due diligence. Back to Top SBH General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 4,174 Status: Offline     RE: Possible Coaching Candidates    Posted: 12/10/2024 11:18:07 AM  Interesting point but different scenario. Grobe announced not only his departure but the departures of his entire coaching staff (except for Knorr). He hated Thomas Boeh (for good reason) and was determined to leave him next to nothing. I believe the whole staff already had offers from Wake. Back to Top Mike Coleman Administrator Member Since: 12/21/2004 Location: Near the Pristine Sandy Shores of Lake Erie, OH Post Count: 1,623 Status: Offline     RE: Possible Coaching Candidates    Posted: 12/10/2024 11:21:44 AM  SBH wrote: Interesting point but different scenario. Grobe announced not only his departure but the departures of his entire coaching staff (except for Knorr). He hated Thomas Boeh (for good reason) and was determined to leave him next to nothing. I believe the whole staff already had offers from Wake. Our current staff doesn't have offers from Charlotte? The difference here is the bowl game and fear of the portal. If 7-4 Ohio in 2000 was today, we would have been in a bowl and Grobe would not have left his players behind with no coaches. Back to Top Mike Coleman Administrator Member Since: 12/21/2004 Location: Near the Pristine Sandy Shores of Lake Erie, OH Post Count: 1,623 Status: Offline     RE: Possible Coaching Candidates    Posted: 12/10/2024 11:25:49 AM  I guess my point is, does Smith have commitments from some staff or does he have to start from scratch? Can Smith “keep the culture” with an entirely new staff? What’s Frank’s opinion—he is a consultant, no? There are questions to be answered. Back to Top Valley Cat General User Member Since: 12/28/2004 Location: Jackson Twp., OH Post Count: 1,191 Status: Offline     RE: Possible Coaching Candidates    Posted: 12/10/2024 11:55:54 AM  I think there are plenty of questions that will probably never be answered. How was this botched so badly? My issues are not with Coach Albin at all. I have to believe the biggest issues were caused by other decision makers. A great way to fix this in a hurry would be making Smith or Hauser, who I think are both capable turn me down. And based on the handling of their predecessor maybe they will. Keep the team together as much as possible, keep the recruiting class in tact as much as possible and keep the momentum going. This isn't Brian Knorr it's Brian Smith or John Hauser. Back to Top TWT General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 5,138 Status: Offline     RE: Possible Coaching Candidates    Posted: 12/10/2024 2:31:35 PM  Casper71 wrote: L.C. Got to disagree with you on this one. We are what we are. We’re not going to any different level than we are right now. Just not enough resources. Hire from within and keep some consistency. How do you know what resources we have? Revenue sharing starts in 2025 and UMass of all places is committing 2-3 million dollars toward it. Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended 2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round 2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl 2015 34-3 drubbing of Miami @ Peden front of 25,086 Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,470 Status: Offline     RE: Possible Coaching Candidates    Posted: 12/10/2024 3:11:02 PM  Valley Cat wrote: I think there are plenty of questions that will probably never be answered. How was this botched so badly? My issues are not with Coach Albin at all. I have to believe the biggest issues were caused by other decision makers. A great way to fix this in a hurry would be making Smith or Hauser, who I think are both capable turn me down. And based on the handling of their predecessor maybe they will. Keep the team together as much as possible, keep the recruiting class in tact as much as possible and keep the momentum going. This isn't Brian Knorr it's Brian Smith or John Hauser. From what I have seen on this board, it sounds like the AD was not willing to make Albin an offer until and unless he won the MACC. That, apparently, was enough to push him to Charlotte. History sometimes repeats. I don't expect Smith to get an offer until and unless he wins the bowl. “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame General User Member Since: 7/30/2010 Post Count: 3,911 Status: Offline     RE: Possible Coaching Candidates    Posted: 12/10/2024 3:16:57 PM  L.C. wrote: From what I have seen on this board, it sounds like the AD was not willing to make Albin an offer until and unless he won the MACC. How does the timeline work on that? We know (from this board) that he did receive an offer that matched Charlotte's, right? And we also seem to know that he accepted the Charlotte job before the MACC game? Seems like those things are in conflict, unless Cromer made the offer after the game. Back to Top SBH General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 4,174 Status: Offline     RE: Possible Coaching Candidates    Posted: 12/10/2024 4:01:04 PM  I was told it was presented the day before the game. Back to Top GoCats105 General User Member Since: 1/31/2006 Location: Seattle, WA Post Count: 7,333 Status: Offline     RE: Possible Coaching Candidates    Posted: 12/10/2024 4:13:15 PM  Shocked that someone hasn't been monitoring Flight Aware yet. Back to Top Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame General User Member Since: 7/30/2010 Post Count: 3,911 Status: Offline     RE: Possible Coaching Candidates    Posted: 12/10/2024 4:18:45 PM  GoCats105 wrote: Shocked that someone hasn't been monitoring Flight Aware yet. This is the MAC. Just check the Greyhound schedule. Back to Top Brian Smith (No, not that one) General User Member Since: 2/3/2005 Post Count: 3,015 Status: Offline     RE: Possible Coaching Candidates    Posted: 12/10/2024 5:48:10 PM  “He’s on the MegaBus but he’ll need to hitch a ride to town…” Back to Top TWT General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 5,138 Status: Offline     RE: Possible Coaching Candidates    Posted: 12/10/2024 5:52:23 PM  Mike Coleman wrote: I guess my point is, does Smith have commitments from some staff or does he have to start from scratch? Can Smith “keep the culture” with an entirely new staff? What’s Frank’s opinion—he is a consultant, no? There are questions to be answered. Is the culture more about the characteristics of the players? The top recruiting pitch (according to Albin) is academic support. The state is also full of tough kids making it easy to piece together a good team. The question I think is more about executing a dynamic offense. The blueprint for 2025 is right there though with how the Cats performed in the second half of 2024 all televised. Back in the day in would be starting from scratch. Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended 2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round 2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl 2015 34-3 drubbing of Miami @ Peden front of 25,086 Back to Top TWT General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 5,138 Status: Offline     RE: Possible Coaching Candidates    Posted: 12/10/2024 6:27:48 PM  Valley Cat wrote: I think there are plenty of questions that will probably never be answered. How was this botched so badly? My issues are not with Coach Albin at all. I have to believe the biggest issues were caused by other decision makers. A great way to fix this in a hurry would be making Smith or Hauser, who I think are both capable turn me down. And based on the handling of their predecessor maybe they will. Keep the team together as much as possible, keep the recruiting class in tact as much as possible and keep the momentum going. This isn't Brian Knorr it's Brian Smith or John Hauser. A way to stick it to TA is to retain as much of the existing staff as possible with raises to match or exceed anything Charlotte is offering. Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended 2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round 2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl 2015 34-3 drubbing of Miami @ Peden front of 25,086 Back to Top Rufusbobcat94 General User Member Since: 6/13/2018 Post Count: 392 Status: Offline     RE: Possible Coaching Candidates    Posted: 12/10/2024 7:16:00 PM  I am sure Albin will try to sign some or all of his former coaches including Smith and Hauser. Ohio would make a solid gamble on Smith as HC and Hauser as DC and give Hauser one of those titles they give you when they want you to stick around and get more money. Hauser is reportedly an excellent recruiter and obviously can coach and call defense shutting down miami. I think if you keep Smith and Hauser you have the foundation. Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 10,224 Status: Offline     RE: Possible Coaching Candidates    Posted: 12/10/2024 7:49:40 PM  Mike Coleman wrote: I like Smith and think he is ready. However, we didn't bother to interview Urban Meyer when we hired Brian Knorr. Two years later, they put 72 on us. Consistency is great, but not without due diligence. You ain’t wrong there, but that was Tom Boeh making his mark and wanted to purely put his stamp on the program. He personally hired two coordinators and 2 other assistants. Hell the DC he hired didn’t even run the scheme that 1. Knorr knew and ran to success. 2. We had 10 returning starters to run. Back to Top Mike Coleman Administrator Member Since: 12/21/2004 Location: Near the Pristine Sandy Shores of Lake Erie, OH Post Count: 1,623 Status: Offline     RE: Possible Coaching Candidates    Posted: 12/10/2024 8:13:40 PM  BillyTheCat wrote: Mike Coleman wrote: I like Smith and think he is ready. However, we didn't bother to interview Urban Meyer when we hired Brian Knorr. Two years later, they put 72 on us. Consistency is great, but not without due diligence. You ain’t wrong there, but that was Tom Boeh making his mark and wanted to purely put his stamp on the program. He personally hired two coordinators and 2 other assistants. Hell the DC he hired didn’t even run the scheme that 1. Knorr knew and ran to success. 2. We had 10 returning starters to run. Tim Kish. Nothing wrong with the guy other than he was a square peg. Had a long career after that fiasco. Back to Top greencat General User Member Since: 3/12/2005 Post Count: 2,449 Status: Offline     RE: Possible Coaching Candidates    Posted: 12/10/2024 8:17:08 PM  SBH wrote: She never considered doing that when Frank retired. She immediately hired Albin. She needs to do the same now...fast. ^ WHAT HE SAID ^ Back to Top M.D.W.S.T General User Member Since: 12/23/2021 Post Count: 2,701 Status: Offline     RE: Possible Coaching Candidates    Posted: 12/11/2024 9:26:32 AM  Mike Coleman wrote: I guess my point is, does Smith have commitments from some staff or does he have to start from scratch? Can Smith “keep the culture” with an entirely new staff? What’s Frank’s opinion—he is a consultant, no? There are questions to be answered. If I had to guess, and I made this same post a few months ago when I was talking about Tulsa or Purdue... Brian could/will likely keep Faanes, and Tremayne. DLo I think will stay unless he's offered a Co-DC or something. Would Tim offer Metz or Scott the OC role? I can see Metz getting a Co-OC title from Tim. He's young, he's a bit of an up and comer, but he's been here for a while and his wife is an OU alum. Brian could make him WR coach or something, and I think he stays on. Tim will take a Hauser and a lot of the old guard. I don't know what assistant salaries are like for UNCC, but from the outside looking in, is it that exciting of a prospect? I'm not so sure. Charlotte is an awesome city, but UNCC... you're fighting for a lot of power programs for dollars, and most of those dollars go to UNC. It's an uphill battle that I'm not so sure is worth the risk for a lot of younger guys. Though on the flip side, if they're able to turn that team around... could be a easier slide into the ACC. Last Edited: 12/11/2024 9:27:46 AM by M.D.W.S.T Back to Top cbarber357 General User Member Since: 9/9/2012 Location: Pickerington, OH Post Count: 923 Status: Offline     RE: Possible Coaching Candidates    Posted: 12/11/2024 11:00:27 AM  Smith Interview after practice- https://youtu.be/CiWdlw2KSoE?si=zGkOjD4kyrxCrLtW Well, Smith is about 50 times better speaking on the mic, although probably in front of three kids. Said all the right things, even acknowledged how things went down wasn’t fair to the players. 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