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Topic:  RE: Ohio will be 1-0 and in 1st place in the MAC when it really counts
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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio will be 1-0 and in 1st place in the MAC when it really counts
   Posted: 9/26/2021 8:21:05 PM 
OhioBobcat wrote:
Ohio is a 9-point favorite at Akron.


Akron as a 9.5 point dog or +290 to win outright (basically 2.9:1)?!? That is incredibly tempting!
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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio will be 1-0 and in 1st place in the MAC when it really counts
   Posted: 9/26/2021 9:12:23 PM 
mf279801 wrote:
OhioBobcat wrote:
Ohio is a 9-point favorite at Akron.


Akron as a 9.5 point dog or +290 to win outright (basically 2.9:1)?!? That is incredibly tempting!


And the over/under is 54.5. Take the under.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio will be 1-0 and in 1st place in the MAC when it really counts
   Posted: 9/26/2021 9:42:02 PM 
I get all the doom and gloom surrounding the season so far, and I get where it's coming from. I really do. I've watched the same games as all of you have and know how Ohio has gotten to 0-4. And it wasn't pretty. I know I'm in the minority on here by saying this, but I truly believe and expect things to change this week. Akron is EXACTLY what the doctor ordered and what Ohio needs to start MAC play. There isn't another team in the conference you'd want to face right now to begin 1-0 in the MAC where it really counts other than Akron. At the beginning of the season I would have said BG, but 4 weeks in, it's Akron over everyone else. I fully expect to not only see Ohio get the win, but to iron out a lot of their issues against the Zips while gaining a major boost and shot in the arm to move through conference play. There always seems to be a defining game where a season takes a turn for better or worse, and you're going to see one for the better this Saturday. And one that's going to carry over moving forward.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio will be 1-0 and in 1st place in the MAC when it really counts
   Posted: 9/26/2021 11:32:02 PM 
While I would have liked to see at least 2-2 OOC, I knew in my heart of hearts that 1-3 would be much more likely. 0-4 never entered my mind. I knew Louisiana would kick our @$$. I thought we might pull off an upset at home over Syracuse, but that didn't happen, and they appear to be somewhat improved over last year. I don't even want to talk about mighty Duquesne.

While the start of MAC play represents a clean slate, my current pessimism is rooted in the WAY we've arrived at 0-4. I've seen zero improvement over the four games, the same chronic issues in all phases of the game. Speaking of chronic, Albin continues to say that he's seen improvement, from where I sit, it seems more likely that he has obtained his medical marijuana card.

I really want to buy into the optimism - and I sure hope it's well-founded.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio will be 1-0 and in 1st place in the MAC when it really counts
   Posted: 9/27/2021 12:06:40 AM 
OhioBobcat wrote:
Ohio is a 9-point favorite at Akron.


We were a 28 point favorite over the Dukes, and a 1 point dog to Syracuse.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio will be 1-0 and in 1st place in the MAC when it really counts
   Posted: 9/27/2021 12:27:44 AM 
AlumDadDad wrote:
. . .Albin continues to say that he's seen improvement, from where I sit, it seems more likely that he has obtained his medical marijuana card. . .


Made me spit our the water I was drinking. A good laugh. I needed that. Thanks. However, in all seriousness, there does appear to be some hallucinations going on here somewhere. I've seen a team get worse each game, not better. NW was, IMHO, weaker than either Syracuse or Louisiana, yet we looked more hapless than ever. I know if you look at the stats you can see some improvement, and we gained an impressive number yards between the 20s against the Wildcats, but since this isn't horseshoes getting close to the goal line doesn't count. You actually have get across it into the end zone to get credited with a TD. We've had trouble doing that with every team we faced, except for the Mighty Dukes. Akron would probably have run all over the Dukes.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio will be 1-0 and in 1st place in the MAC when it really counts
   Posted: 9/27/2021 1:41:30 AM 
Can we brand Saturday’s game “The World’s Largest Outdoor Tickle Fight?”
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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio will be 1-0 and in 1st place in the MAC when it really counts
   Posted: 9/27/2021 9:14:58 AM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
... we gained an impressive number yards between the 20s against the Wildcats


Not sure what game you watched ... but Ohio had one drive get inside Northwestern 20. That was the opening drive. The only other "drive" that got inside the Northwestern 40 was the fluke Rodgers TD run on the final play.

The closest they got into NW territory was their 41 when Rourke fumbled.

Take away the opening drive where they held the ball for 7 minutes and they ran 13 plays (and came away with NOTHING) ... the next best drive was 8 plays covering 3 minutes.

Pathetic.

11 drives after that opening drive ..

FUMBLE
PUNT
PUNT
PUNT
PUNT
PUNT
PUNT
PUNT
PUNT
INT
DOWNS
INT
(Then fluke TD)

That's an embarrassment. Period.

49 plays, 207 yds. 10 penalties.

That's not improvement. (Not saying you were trying to sugar coat this) ...

Bottom line. They stink. And it sucks to say that.

There's enough talent to be better than this. This is a coaching issue. Plain & simple.

And the sad reality is we're stuck with it for two seasons. There's no way they ever buy him out. Won't happen.

Just hope he doesn't burn it completely to the ground. But 2-22 over the next two years isn't out of the question.

Last Edited: 9/27/2021 9:16:00 AM by bshot44

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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio will be 1-0 and in 1st place in the MAC when it really counts
   Posted: 9/27/2021 10:27:41 AM 
bshot44: I'll take that back; I'll admit that in the last half I was switching back and forth between our game and the BG-UofM game. Guess it confused my addled brain. But, we did have a fairly good amount of total yards, maybe mainly on our side of the field. We had 348 total yards vs 461, which looks better than the actual blowout it was.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio will be 1-0 and in 1st place in the MAC when it really counts
   Posted: 9/27/2021 11:02:33 AM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
AlumDadDad wrote:
. . .Albin continues to say that he's seen improvement, from where I sit, it seems more likely that he has obtained his medical marijuana card. . .


Made me spit our the water I was drinking. A good laugh. I needed that. Thanks. However, in all seriousness, there does appear to be some hallucinations going on here somewhere. I've seen a team get worse each game, not better. NW was, IMHO, weaker than either Syracuse or Louisiana, yet we looked more hapless than ever. I know if you look at the stats you can see some improvement, and we gained an impressive number yards between the 20s against the Wildcats, but since this isn't horseshoes getting close to the goal line doesn't count. You actually have get across it into the end zone to get credited with a TD. We've had trouble doing that with every team we faced, except for the Mighty Dukes. Akron would probably have run all over the Dukes.



Which is why I'm not confident we'll beat Akron Saturday or win at all this year. Akron scored more pts against Auburn than we scored against Syracuse and more against O$U than we did against NWern (not sure we would've made the PAT even if we had tried). They're D has been making other teams look good but so has ours. If we don't get some Viagra in the offense by Saturday, it's likely to be pretty embarrassing.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio will be 1-0 and in 1st place in the MAC when it really counts
   Posted: 9/27/2021 11:18:52 AM 
Someone thinks Ohio could score 9?
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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio will be 1-0 and in 1st place in the MAC when it really counts
   Posted: 9/27/2021 12:03:04 PM 
The infamous November clunker(s) when championship game berths were on the line.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio will be 1-0 and in 1st place in the MAC in 2 weeks when it really counts
   Posted: 9/27/2021 1:02:48 PM 
Mike Johnson wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
Maddog13 wrote:
. . .The only hope now is to find a former name who wouldn't mind living out his days coaching a less stressful program. I don't see this program being of interest to an up and coming coach with talent, which we could afford. I just don't.


Well, a strange thought occurred to me: Jim Grobe is now coaching some arena league team. He's a native of Huntington. Maybe he'd be interested in a second gig at OHIO. Wild idea, I know, but these are desperate times in Bobcat Football Land.



If nothing more, we could expect Grobe to quickly instill discipline and grit.

Which causes me to remember this anecdote: As his 6 years coincided with my 6 as pres of the Akron-Canton Alumni Chapter, we became close. Once when arriving at Peden to watch practice - at his invitation - I saw a Bobcat running laps. I walked to Jim and said, "Why is he running laps?" Jim waited till the player was within earshot and replied, "He said a bad word." The player grinned sheepishly.

I'm also remembering that, after stepping down at Wake, scandal-plagued Baylor asked him to serve a season as an interim Mr. Clean. Rather remarkably he coached the Bears to a 6-6 regular season plus a bowl win.


You’ve seen it first hand. People here have no real understanding what Grobe was about and how he totally rebuilt a program and did so while being woafully underfunded
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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio will be 1-0 and in 1st place in the MAC in 2 weeks when it really counts
   Posted: 9/27/2021 1:29:09 PM 
Doc Bobcat wrote:
We can beat Akron if:

(1) QB play means no mistakes. Rourke may be able to run against them. Cox is back and that’s encouraging. Need some way to get Rogers on the field.

(2) Reduce penalty yards.

(3) Stop the run.


I noticed Cox is back. Any word on Meservy?


I've seen crazier things happen.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio will be 1-0 and in 1st place in the MAC in 2 weeks when it really counts
   Posted: 9/27/2021 1:45:58 PM 
BillyTheCat wrote:
Mike Johnson wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
Maddog13 wrote:
. . .The only hope now is to find a former name who wouldn't mind living out his days coaching a less stressful program. I don't see this program being of interest to an up and coming coach with talent, which we could afford. I just don't.


Well, a strange thought occurred to me: Jim Grobe is now coaching some arena league team. He's a native of Huntington. Maybe he'd be interested in a second gig at OHIO. Wild idea, I know, but these are desperate times in Bobcat Football Land.



If nothing more, we could expect Grobe to quickly instill discipline and grit.

Which causes me to remember this anecdote: As his 6 years coincided with my 6 as pres of the Akron-Canton Alumni Chapter, we became close. Once when arriving at Peden to watch practice - at his invitation - I saw a Bobcat running laps. I walked to Jim and said, "Why is he running laps?" Jim waited till the player was within earshot and replied, "He said a bad word." The player grinned sheepishly.

I'm also remembering that, after stepping down at Wake, scandal-plagued Baylor asked him to serve a season as an interim Mr. Clean. Rather remarkably he coached the Bears to a 6-6 regular season plus a bowl win.


You’ve seen it first hand. People here have no real understanding what Grobe was about and how he totally rebuilt a program and did so while being woafully underfunded


Grobe’s teams were tough. Loved the flex-bone…what great running backs he had. Under today’s MAC bowl bonanza OU would have gone bowling plenty. Unfortunately the MAC was “one and done” while he was here.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio will be 1-0 and in 1st place in the MAC in 2 weeks when it really counts
   Posted: 9/27/2021 2:45:48 PM 
The Optimist wrote:
Doc Bobcat wrote:
We can beat Akron if:

(1) QB play means no mistakes. Rourke may be able to run against them. Cox is back and that’s encouraging. Need some way to get Rogers on the field.

(2) Reduce penalty yards.

(3) Stop the run.


I noticed Cox is back. Any word on Meservy?


It would be nice if we had stuff like Participation Listings like we’ve had in the past.

I’m hoping he is since it wasn’t injury related.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio will be 1-0 and in 1st place in the MAC in 2 weeks when it really counts
   Posted: 10/2/2021 6:49:29 PM 
Well, well, well, looks who is sitting tied for 1st place in the MAC....OHIO! As I said a couple weeks ago when I started this thread, the non-conference doesn't mean anything come conference play time. This is exactly what I expected this team to come out and do, and they did. Did you see the energy and enthusiasm out there in the second half and at the end of the game? It's a new season, and the Bobcats are undefeated in it.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio will be 1-0 and in 1st place in the MAC in 2 weeks when it really counts
   Posted: 10/2/2021 7:06:16 PM 
Brilliant, OhioBobcat. No one else saw Ohio beating Akron, thus starting league play at 1-0. However, I still disagree with your opinion that non-league games not meaning anything.

Last Edited: 10/2/2021 7:06:35 PM by bobcatsquared

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   Posted: 10/2/2021 7:14:35 PM 
bobcatsquared wrote:
Brilliant, OhioBobcat. No one else saw Ohio beating Akron, thus starting league play at 1-0. However, I still disagree with your opinion that non-league games not meaning anything.


Albin has the MAC right where he wants them. Tank during OOC to trick the MAC into thinking we aren’t good then break out the big guns in MAC play. Truly brilliant strategy. We are all playing checkers while Albin is playing CHESS.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio will be 1-0 and in 1st place in the MAC in 2 weeks when it really counts
   Posted: 10/2/2021 7:20:57 PM 
bobcatsquared wrote:
Brilliant, OhioBobcat. No one else saw Ohio beating Akron, thus starting league play at 1-0. However, I still disagree with your opinion that non-league games not meaning anything.


I'm saying they mean nothing in the MAC standings. Yes, every game "matters" one way or another in the long run. But the results of non-conference games don't count for squat come conference play time. Hence the reason you see a winless MAC team in the non-conference sitting atop the division in MAC play. This is when it matters most.

Last Edited: 10/2/2021 7:21:37 PM by OhioBobcat

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   Posted: 10/2/2021 7:21:40 PM 
OhioBobcat wrote:
Well, well, well, looks who is sitting tied for 1st place in the MAC....OHIO! As I said a couple weeks ago when I started this thread, the non-conference doesn't mean anything come conference play time. This is exactly what I expected this team to come out and do, and they did. Did you see the energy and enthusiasm out there in the second half and at the end of the game? It's a new season, and the Bobcats are undefeated in it.



You just constructed the world’s largest strawman.

Congratulations.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio will be 1-0 and in 1st place in the MAC in 2 weeks when it really counts
   Posted: 10/2/2021 7:23:49 PM 

The Optimist wrote:
bobcatsquared wrote:
Brilliant, OhioBobcat. No one else saw Ohio beating Akron, thus starting league play at 1-0. However, I still disagree with your opinion that non-league games not meaning anything.


Albin has the MAC right where he wants them. Tank during OOC to trick the MAC into thinking we aren’t good then break out the big guns in MAC play. Truly brilliant strategy. We are all playing checkers while Albin is playing CHESS. 

smiley


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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio will be 1-0 and in 1st place in the MAC in 2 weeks when it really counts
   Posted: 10/3/2021 4:25:31 PM 
Newsflash, not taking sides but the only time being in first place counts is at the end of the year.
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