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mf279801
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RE: Next Coach?

Posted: 12/8/2024 9:17:26 AM

colobobcat66 wrote:

If it’s true, best of luck to Tim, he’s earned it. Sorry to see him leave, but his team won the championship we’ve been chasing for 50+ years so he left us with that!

Amen to this! I'm sad to see him leave, but we just won the title that's eluded up for 56 years, and he was on staff here for 20 years.

Sucks to see him leave, but Charlotte's football budget is more than 4x OUr's, so I get it

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RE: Next Coach?

Posted: 12/8/2024 9:24:47 AM

Cats5 wrote:

Still trying to wrap my head around this. I figured a big dog program would come calling but Charlotte?? I think what irritates me about this is a lateral move at most. Not riding the bus back with the team just shows he was ready to leave. I’d expect a mass exodus from the players going to the portal.

Perplexing, to say the least. Of course, if P4 team came calling it would be one thing... But Charlotte?

What a day at the Convo.....Wow!

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RE: Next Coach?

Posted: 12/8/2024 9:34:23 AM

Yeah, I thought he was a lifer so it will be interesting to see what happened. I'm sure the university or Albin will never really say but maybe someone knows.

I guess if he is leaving that is his choice but how it went down was awful. Coach here for decades, win the game, enjoy it for an hour then leave.

Players get back to Athens, trying to celebrate a historic program win, only to learn via social media that their head coach is leaving.

Don't know if it will happen but Brian Smith or Nowinsky makes sense. I just hope the coaching staff and roster aren't plundered on the way out the door.

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RE: Next Coach?

Posted: 12/8/2024 9:43:07 AM

BillyTheCat wrote:

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Bobcat1996 wrote:

This is all on the athletic director and administration. They showed Coach Albin total disrespect. Are you kidding me? This guy was the sixth highest paid coach in the conference? The athletic director has only herself to blame. She could have got a deal done after the bowl win last season. Three consecutive ten win seasons and she showed the man no respect.

Watch it! There are those on here who greatly object to any criticism of Julie.

Not criticism, it’s facts. She wanted no part of working on a new contract with Tim and drug him along.

The facts, however, are damning!

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RE: Next Coach?

Posted: 12/8/2024 9:50:35 AM

Rufusbobcat94 wrote:

It's the harsh timing of it all that gives me an unsettling feeling. Maybe I am naive, but I would think Coach would want to travel back with the players and celebrate after the win. Even if the information leaked early when it wasn't supposed to be public.

What a day at the Convo.....Wow!

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RE: Next Coach?

Posted: 12/8/2024 9:57:27 AM

BillyTheCat wrote:

OhioCatFan wrote:

Bobcat1996 wrote:

Watch it! There are those on here who greatly object to any criticism of Julie.

Not criticism, it’s facts. She wanted no part of working on a new contract with Tim and drug him along.

That's the part I don't understand. Was there a personality conflict between Cromer and Albin? Did she think Albin was a poor coach and she could find a better replacement? Did the Administration give her tight budget and coaching salary limit she was not allowed to exceed)? It's just strange not to reward a coach who just won the school's 1st conference championship in over 50 years.

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RE: Next Coach?

Posted: 12/8/2024 10:01:44 AM

LuckySparrow wrote:

Rufusbobcat94 wrote:

This is my biggest problem with it. He’s taken a hard stance against players abandoning the team before bowl games, but doesn’t even finish the bus ride home from winning a title or address them about this? After 20 years? Seems extremely low character.

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RE: Next Coach?

Posted: 12/8/2024 10:54:07 AM

BillyTheCat wrote:

OhioCatFan wrote:

Bobcat1996 wrote:

Watch it! There are those on here who greatly object to any criticism of Julie.

Not criticism, it’s facts. She wanted no part of working on a new contract with Tim and drug him along.

I'm sorry, I don't buy this. If Tim was going to leave, he was going to leave. he knows our athletics financial situation. His contract already has bonuses for winning a title, winning a bowl and in lieu of total numbers, he basically had job security for life. An AD's job is to keep a winning football coach happy and we already run a department in the red. I think some of you "insiders" are just full of it.

Last Edited: 12/8/2024 10:54:57 AM by Deciduous Forest Cat

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RE: Next Coach?

Posted: 12/8/2024 10:58:54 AM

Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:

BillyTheCat wrote:

OhioCatFan wrote:

Bobcat1996 wrote:

Watch it! There are those on here who greatly object to any criticism of Julie.

Not criticism, it’s facts. She wanted no part of working on a new contract with Tim and drug him along.

Yep, it's complete crap. He was given an extension with the understanding more would come his way with a MAC title. Now our President has stepped forward in a big way to essentially match Charlotte's offer, putting herself in the crosshairs of an unfriendly/unpleasant faculty senate. if Tim Albin wants to be the next Bill Hess (in terms of legacy), the stage is set to do so.

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RE: Next Coach?

Posted: 12/8/2024 11:34:11 AM

What's Jim Burrow doing?

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M.D.W.S.T
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RE: Next Coach?

Posted: 12/8/2024 11:46:26 AM

SBH wrote:

Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:

BillyTheCat wrote:

OhioCatFan wrote:

Bobcat1996 wrote:

Watch it! There are those on here who greatly object to any criticism of Julie.

Not criticism, it’s facts. She wanted no part of working on a new contract with Tim and drug him along.

Correct. Some of you goobers act like she said NO, bc she’s a meanie and wants to anger you. She probably found out the way we did - last night at 9pm when reporters started saying it’s a done deal. Not a lot of time for a negotiation. Was she supposed to sprint to the field after the game with a check?

“She wanted no part of working on a new deal!” … clown behavior, but I’ll bite. She quite literally worked on a new deal, increasing his salary by $300K and added an auto-extension for 8 wins plus nearly $100k worth of additional bonuses… in 2023!? lol what on the world is going on in this thread

Do you people hear yourselves? Lol

Anyway, He under/played his hand and likely played himself. I feel bad he’s taking the UNCC job. He’s better than that. And most people on the internet agree. It’s a toilet job - yes, for a decent raise - but not life altering. And $1.4M over 2 years when you’re fired =\= $5M over 5 years.

Last Edited: 12/8/2024 11:51:47 AM by M.D.W.S.T

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RE: Next Coach?

Posted: 12/8/2024 11:58:32 AM

Honestly, really don’t think I’m being bitter when I say this, but there are only 3 possible outcomes for his time at Charlotte:

- 1, he does amazing and in two to three years he’s gone for a P4 job that he probably could have landed from Ohio where this sustained success is more likely.

- 2, they hover around .500 his entire tenure there, they continue to have nobody care about the program, and he retires in 5-10 years with no fan bases loving him.

- 3, he does terribly and he’s taking a job at Kent State or an FCS school in 3-4 years

The reported circumstances of him leaving upset me, not that he left. Very weird that he left for barely more money at Charlotte though. He could have been in the Big 10 soon.

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RE: Next Coach?

Posted: 12/8/2024 12:06:16 PM

He's been with the program for 20 years, continued the resurrection Solich began, and finished the job with 3 straight 10 win seasons and the first conference championship in more than half a century. I say best wishes, Coach! Thanks for all you did for Ohio.

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RE: Next Coach?

Posted: 12/8/2024 12:39:42 PM

Taking a step back and zooming out sometimes helps. Coach Albin and the Solich tree have done a wonderful job changing the culture of OUr program.

Other programs from other conferences want that same feeling. Over the years, some folks have taken for granted the success we've had (missing out on championships but still winning bowl games). Winning on TV means a lot and we've had our fair share of great wins on the tube. It's no surprise we have other program's members on our messageboard ready to pounce.

We used to be that Kent State-like program wishing for winning seasons and bowl games. Hopefully, the culture that has been established remains with the next hire, especially culture building things like the "We 💚 Football" chants at the end of the game, etc. Special bonds are formed like that.

Athens is no Charlotte but from the sounds of their program, if he goes 4-1 in the first 5 games on their 2025 schedule, his name will be halfway on the field.

It's a tremendous opportunity to cement his legacy elsewhere while also having a slightly better Boise State "shot" at the CFP. And I have to say they have better weather and food too.

This new era of NIL is not only about players but also coaches who want to put themselves in the best position. We have to keep that in mind until the MAC demands more (if it ever does). We are an FCS coach's short-lived dream job and a better paying G5/P4 recruiting grounds.

Last Edited: 12/8/2024 12:40:56 PM by ExCat21

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RE: Next Coach?

Posted: 12/8/2024 2:24:02 PM

BillyTheCat wrote:

OhioCatFan wrote:

Bobcat1996 wrote:

Watch it! There are those on here who greatly object to any criticism of Julie.

Not criticism, it’s facts. She wanted no part of working on a new contract with Tim and drug him along.

BTC is dead on! This lays at the feet of Ohio's AD.

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RE: Next Coach?

Posted: 12/8/2024 2:26:52 PM

My two cents

20 years is a looooooong time in Athens. I dont know much about the jump in programs but NIL has to be easier in Charlotte. I know i got antsy to visit CLE or CIN every 8-10 weeks as an undergrad.

NC is a big growth market for most companies. I cant imagine how much fun Coach will have exploring all the dining options not present in Athens Co.

Id gladly display a signed Albin football next to the current Solich ball in the man cave.

Im confident the new HC will be excited to coach at the MACs best school.

Godspeed and good luck!

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RE: Next Coach?

Posted: 12/8/2024 2:35:16 PM

Bobcat1996 wrote:

BillyTheCat wrote:

OhioCatFan wrote:

Bobcat1996 wrote:

Watch it! There are those on here who greatly object to any criticism of Julie.

Not criticism, it’s facts. She wanted no part of working on a new contract with Tim and drug him along.

BTC is dead on! This lays at the feet of Ohio's AD.

He’s not dead on. As pointed out by half dozen others, she literally worked on a new contract at the end of last season. So no. Not dead on. Dead wrong.

Others have since come in and have been paid more, but when exactly did you experts expect a new contract to be negotiated? Between yesterday and like Tuesday when the UMass guy was hired?

If she turned around and gave him $1.4M in response prior to finishing the season you would be raging about that as well.

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RE: Next Coach?

Posted: 12/8/2024 2:57:53 PM

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Posted: 12/8/2024 2:35:16 PM

Bobcat1996 wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
Bobcat1996 wrote:
This is all on the athletic director and administration. They showed Coach Albin total disrespect. Are you kidding me? This guy was the sixth highest paid coach in the conference? The athletic director has only herself to blame. She could have got a deal done after the bowl win last season. Three consecutive ten win seasons and she showed the man no respect.

Watch it! There are those on here who greatly object to any criticism of Julie.

Not criticism, it’s facts. She wanted no part of working on a new contract with Tim and drug him along.

BTC is dead on! This lays at the feet of Ohio's AD.

"He’s not dead on. As pointed out by half dozen others, she literally worked on a new contract at the end of last season. So no. Not dead on. Dead wrong.

Others have since come in and have been paid more, but when exactly did you experts expect a new contract to be negotiated? Between yesterday and like Tuesday when the UMass guy was hired?

If she turned around and gave him $1.4M in response prior to finishing the season you would be raging about that as well."

BTC is spot on with his comment above. She should have got this deal done six months ago before the season. As I have mentioned in several posts, the guy was the 6th highest paid coach in the league. If you do some checking the guy won as many league games as any coach in the MAC the last four seasons. What BTC said above is accurate and correct.

Last Edited: 12/8/2024 2:59:57 PM by Bobcat1996

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RE: Next Coach?

Posted: 12/8/2024 3:08:31 PM

Someone start a thread about who our next coach will be….

Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?.....

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RE: Next Coach?

Posted: 12/8/2024 4:02:36 PM

Although (as a St Edward grad) I would not want to lose him, Tom Lombardo at St Edward would be an outstanding choice.
St Ed's runs the same offense as OU (I realize many do) and he's won the Ohio D1 title in '15, '18, '21, '22 and '23. That's 5 D1 titles in 10 years.
He plays top competition accross the nation and knows the top programs and players accross Ohio.
The athletic Director at St Edward is Pete Kahler, son of longtime OU sports administrator Jim Kahler.
Here's a video from his first year at Eds showing highlights against Glenville. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIHJqwxngFE

Last Edited: 12/8/2024 4:08:15 PM by Sean Gallagher

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RE: Next Coach?

Posted: 12/8/2024 4:10:22 PM

M.D.W.S.T wrote:

SBH wrote:

Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:

BillyTheCat wrote:

OhioCatFan wrote:

Bobcat1996 wrote:

Watch it! There are those on here who greatly object to any criticism of Julie.

Not criticism, it’s facts. She wanted no part of working on a new contract with Tim and drug him along.

From what I can find his salary went from 535k in 2023 to 700k in 2024. Not seeing 300k anywhere.

Not taking sides in the Julie fight because I don’t know her at all, but indeed she must have been working on an upgraded contract weeks if not months ago. She certainly knew about all the recent talk about interest in Albin, it was all over the sports rumor mills. It does take two to tango so maybe Albin was just ready to move on and had no plans to stay much longer if given a choice of any kind. Doesn’t make a lot of sense, but who knows.
Another thing, Albin is nothing if he isn’t loyal, maybe it’s not all about him, maybe he wants his staff to be making more as well. I’m not sure about Charlottes football budget-that can be researched- but ours is not great I believe. Albin was making $164k as OC in 2019 according to ESPN numbers. It’s not like he’s been making 500k plus forever.

You’re dreaming if you think he’s not getting paid for more than 2.8 if he signs the contract- unless for cause he’ll get 7 mil if he’s fired. I’m not following. And that money is life changing for most people.

Last Edited: 12/8/2024 5:35:59 PM by colobobcat66

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RE: Next Coach?

Posted: 12/8/2024 5:12:13 PM

Sean Gallagher wrote:

Jumping from high school to FBS football is a completely different animal. No thanks.

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RE: Next Coach?

Posted: 12/8/2024 5:28:28 PM

Ohio69 wrote:

Someone start a thread about who our next coach will be….

Let’s move quickly on this one.

Move Brian Smith to head coach since he was associate head coach (whatever that means) and with his decent offensive mind let him pick the new OC.

Since Faanes is the associate D coach give him the DC job as my gut tells me Hauser will be in Charlotte.

Let’s stop the wailing and gnashing of teeth and enjoy the bowl game.

Speaking of games let the portal games begin.

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RE: Next Coach?

Posted: 12/8/2024 5:37:18 PM

Doc Bobcat wrote:

Ohio69 wrote:

Someone start a thread about who our next coach will be….

All this makes a lot of sense, get her done !

Be careful what you ask for on that last one

Last Edited: 12/8/2024 5:38:22 PM by colobobcat66

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RE: Next Coach?

Posted: 12/8/2024 5:40:11 PM

Offer Nowinsky?

Anyone on Cinci staff? Or Pitt?

Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?.....

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