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JSF
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  Message Not Read  Elam Ending
   Posted: 2/17/2020 5:25:43 PM 
The Elam Ending (https://ftw.usatoday.com/2020/02/nba-all-star-game-elam-e... ) was deployed in last night's All-Star Game and it was universally praised. I think it's a fun idea. It doesn't need to completely replace the clock, but what do you think of implementing it in the NIT, CBI, etc.?


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Buckeye to Bobcat
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  Message Not Read  RE: Elam Ending
   Posted: 2/17/2020 5:36:04 PM 
You've been missing out the last few years of the TBT
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Ted Thompson
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  Message Not Read  RE: Elam Ending
   Posted: 2/17/2020 6:20:48 PM 
Buckeye to Bobcat wrote:
You've been missing out the last few years of the TBT


Love it in the TBT. Not sure I'm ready to accept it into college basketball. But it's fun and I love the walkoffs.


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JSF
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  Message Not Read  RE: Elam Ending
   Posted: 2/17/2020 6:38:46 PM 
Buckeye to Bobcat wrote:
You've been missing out the last few years of the TBT


I haven't, but the NBA using it is a different thing.


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cc-cat
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  Message Not Read  RE: Elam Ending
   Posted: 2/17/2020 7:11:40 PM 
JSF wrote:
The Elam Ending (https://ftw.usatoday.com/2020/02/nba-all-star-game-elam-e... ) was deployed in last night's All-Star Game and it was universally praised. I think it's a fun idea. It doesn't need to completely replace the clock, but what do you think of implementing it in the NIT, CBI, etc.?


Given the buzz from the all-star game (that will use it forever more) I think there's a great chance it migrates to the (lesser) post-season in the NCAA - certainly the CBI, etc. I also think the buzz will lead to some examination on how it could translate to the football side of things and some of the bowl games - most are owned by ESPN - whose interest is eyeballs. Not sure what the ELAM Ending for football would be - but we'll hear options soon.

Last Edited: 2/17/2020 7:15:55 PM by cc-cat

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shabamon
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  Message Not Read  RE: Elam Ending
   Posted: 2/17/2020 8:52:39 PM 
I loved watching it, and I think it fits the all-star game format perfectly. Don't think it belongs in any "real" game including the lesser college tournaments. The point was to make the game more competitive and it succeeded. Real games have no need to manufacture that.

I also love the tweaks to the three point shooting competition (money ball rack placed wherever you want, two 30 foot shots worth three points)
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JSF
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  Message Not Read  RE: Elam Ending
   Posted: 2/17/2020 9:26:53 PM 
cc-cat wrote:
JSF wrote:
The Elam Ending (https://ftw.usatoday.com/2020/02/nba-all-star-game-elam-e... ) was deployed in last night's All-Star Game and it was universally praised. I think it's a fun idea. It doesn't need to completely replace the clock, but what do you think of implementing it in the NIT, CBI, etc.?


Given the buzz from the all-star game (that will use it forever more) I think there's a great chance it migrates to the (lesser) post-season in the NCAA - certainly the CBI, etc. I also think the buzz will lead to some examination on how it could translate to the football side of things and some of the bowl games - most are owned by ESPN - whose interest is eyeballs. Not sure what the ELAM Ending for football would be - but we'll hear options soon.


First to three concussions loses!


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Andrew Ruck
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  Message Not Read  RE: Elam Ending
   Posted: 2/18/2020 8:50:45 AM 
I love it and think it should be implemented in at least the NBA and maybe college. I don't think you can do it at youth levels because you could have really long dry spells, especially as the opponents play very defensive to ensure they don't reach the point total.

Full disclosure, I am a baseball junky that simply hates game clocks and how they change how the game is played. I loathe how the 4th quarter of a football game goes where the scoreboard leader becomes a slave to the game clock and how much it dictates pass vs throw.


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GoCats105
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  Message Not Read  RE: Elam Ending
   Posted: 2/18/2020 11:32:52 AM 
JSF wrote:
cc-cat wrote:
JSF wrote:
The Elam Ending (https://ftw.usatoday.com/2020/02/nba-all-star-game-elam-e... ) was deployed in last night's All-Star Game and it was universally praised. I think it's a fun idea. It doesn't need to completely replace the clock, but what do you think of implementing it in the NIT, CBI, etc.?


Given the buzz from the all-star game (that will use it forever more) I think there's a great chance it migrates to the (lesser) post-season in the NCAA - certainly the CBI, etc. I also think the buzz will lead to some examination on how it could translate to the football side of things and some of the bowl games - most are owned by ESPN - whose interest is eyeballs. Not sure what the ELAM Ending for football would be - but we'll hear options soon.


First to three concussions loses!


Yeah not sure it translates to football. Still think college OT rules are the best, they just need to move the offense out of FG range to start.

I loved this because it kind of took you back to the playground or pickup basketball games. There's no clock, you play to a score. To me I think the sense or urgency is higher when you know the other team is about to win with one more bucket as opposed to 30 seconds left.
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Andrew Ruck
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  Message Not Read  RE: Elam Ending
   Posted: 2/18/2020 12:06:39 PM 
Here is a radical / will never happen thought for football. Get rid of the game clock and go to a possession based game. Each team gets 10 (12? not sure what the right number is) possessions per game, period. Field position still matters greatly, basically everything can stay the same except we are no longer slaves to the clock and teams can continue to play their game.

Yes if a team is up 25 with just 3 possessions remaining, they can not mathematically come back, so just let them play pointless football where backups can get shots. Not much different than a 25 point lead in the 4th quarter under the clock based game.


Andrew Ruck
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GoCats105
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  Message Not Read  RE: Elam Ending
   Posted: 2/18/2020 1:30:18 PM 
Andrew Ruck wrote:
Here is a radical / will never happen thought for football. Get rid of the game clock and go to a possession based game. Each team gets 10 (12? not sure what the right number is) possessions per game, period. Field position still matters greatly, basically everything can stay the same except we are no longer slaves to the clock and teams can continue to play their game.

Yes if a team is up 25 with just 3 possessions remaining, they can not mathematically come back, so just let them play pointless football where backups can get shots. Not much different than a 25 point lead in the 4th quarter under the clock based game.


I would appreciate this in theory for a Clemson-Charleston Southern opener or Alabama-Western Carolina November tune-up.

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