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Once it’s clear they have the votes to get in, everyone will vote yes for it. Just heard a sports blurb on the radio. Its an anonymous source, but they said its a done deal,13-1 with A&M voting no. Back to Top Alan Swank General User Member Since: 12/11/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 7,025 Status: Offline     RE: Maybe Conference Realignment Isn’t Over    Posted: 7/26/2021 6:13:10 PM  I could see this eventually working out to 4 16 team conferences for a 64 team division and then everyone else in a lower division. Back to Top DXer General User Member Since: 12/21/2004 Location: Mobile, AL Post Count: 135 Status: Offline     RE: Maybe Conference Realignment Isn’t Over    Posted: 7/26/2021 7:20:32 PM  If it ends up with 4 conferences, then that would be perfect for me. Keep the playoffs at four teams - the four conference champions. No polls, no politics. Just the four teams who won their way in on the field. Back to Top colobobcat66 General User Member Since: 9/1/2006 Location: Watching the bobcats run outside my window., CO Post Count: 4,164 Status: Online     RE: Maybe Conference Realignment Isn’t Over    Posted: 7/26/2021 7:27:31 PM  Alan Swank wrote: I could see this eventually working out to 4 16 team conferences for a 64 team division and then everyone else in a lower division. Well there’s 65 teams (including ND) in the P-5 now so that just shuffles the teams with not much change in the teams involved. So which current P-5 team gets left out or do some current G-5 teams (Houston, BYU, Boise, Cincy, Memphis, CF) make it and replace more current P-5 teams (Vanderbilt, TCU, Wake Forrest )? Back to Top Scott Woods General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: On the banks of the Ohio, OH Post Count: 226 Status: Offline     RE: Maybe Conference Realignment Isn’t Over    Posted: 7/26/2021 9:42:03 PM  DXer wrote: If it ends up with 4 conferences, then that would be perfect for me. Keep the playoffs at four teams - the four conference champions. No polls, no politics. Just the four teams who won their way in on the field. Like the time Penn State was the Big 10 conference champ, but Ohio State went to the "playoffs"? Religion morality and knowledge being necessary to good government and the happiness of mankind schools and the means of education shall forever be encouraged. So enter that daily thou mayest grow in knowledge wisdom and love. So depart that daily thou mayest better serve thy fellowmen thy country and thy God. Back to Top DXer General User Member Since: 12/21/2004 Location: Mobile, AL Post Count: 135 Status: Offline     RE: Maybe Conference Realignment Isn’t Over    Posted: 7/27/2021 1:30:34 AM  Precisely !!! Back to Top cc-cat General User Member Since: 4/5/2006 Location: matthews, NC Post Count: 3,829 Status: Offline     RE: Maybe Conference Realignment Isn’t Over    Posted: 7/27/2021 11:02:31 AM  colobobcat66 wrote: Alan Swank wrote: I could see this eventually working out to 4 16 team conferences for a 64 team division and then everyone else in a lower division. Well there’s 65 teams (including ND) in the P-5 now so that just shuffles the teams with not much change in the teams involved. So which current P-5 team gets left out or do some current G-5 teams (Houston, BYU, Boise, Cincy, Memphis, CF) make it and replace more current P-5 teams (Vanderbilt, TCU, Wake Forrest )? Army, Navy, and Air Force will want in and Congress will (in public and behind the scenes) make it happen. Back to Top SVAC83 General User Member Since: 10/1/2019 Post Count: 143 Status: Offline     RE: Maybe Conference Realignment Isn’t Over    Posted: 7/27/2021 11:30:17 AM  this is why i think you need to either think about 5 16 team leagues or 4 20 team leagues. because when you break down all the teams and influences that your not going to get down to 64 but there will be a break in next 10 years and it will be 80 teams or less unless you go totally the other way and you dwindle it down to 48 teams. Last Edited: 7/27/2021 11:31:29 AM by SVAC83 Back to Top GoCats105 General User Member Since: 1/31/2006 Location: Seattle, WA Post Count: 6,940 Status: Offline     RE: Maybe Conference Realignment Isn’t Over    Posted: 7/27/2021 1:36:23 PM  OU and Texas formally submitted their request letter to the SEC today. Also, I read elsewhere that games not involving OU or Texas pulled about the same TV rating as an AAC game. So if you're Cincinnati do you really wanna join that? What's the benefit? Back to Top cc-cat General User Member Since: 4/5/2006 Location: matthews, NC Post Count: 3,829 Status: Offline     RE: Maybe Conference Realignment Isn’t Over    Posted: 7/27/2021 1:51:46 PM  GoCats105 wrote: OU and Texas formally submitted their request letter to the SEC today. Also, I read elsewhere that games not involving OU or Texas pulled about the same TV rating as an AAC game. So if you're Cincinnati do you really wanna join that? What's the benefit? If you mean joining the crippled Big 12 - there is no reason. If you mean joining one of the new super conferences - I can give you tens of millions of reasons. Back to Top GoCats105 General User Member Since: 1/31/2006 Location: Seattle, WA Post Count: 6,940 Status: Offline     RE: Maybe Conference Realignment Isn’t Over    Posted: 7/27/2021 2:16:40 PM  cc-cat wrote: GoCats105 wrote: OU and Texas formally submitted their request letter to the SEC today. Also, I read elsewhere that games not involving OU or Texas pulled about the same TV rating as an AAC game. So if you're Cincinnati do you really wanna join that? What's the benefit? If you mean joining the crippled Big 12 - there is no reason. If you mean joining one of the new super conferences - I can give you tens of millions of reasons. The former. Of course they would join the super. Last Edited: 7/27/2021 2:17:00 PM by GoCats105 Back to Top The Optimist General User Member Since: 3/16/2007 Location: CLE Post Count: 5,555 Status: Offline     RE: Maybe Conference Realignment Isn’t Over    Posted: 7/27/2021 4:43:30 PM  GoCats105 wrote: cc-cat wrote: GoCats105 wrote: OU and Texas formally submitted their request letter to the SEC today. Also, I read elsewhere that games not involving OU or Texas pulled about the same TV rating as an AAC game. So if you're Cincinnati do you really wanna join that? What's the benefit? If you mean joining the crippled Big 12 - there is no reason. If you mean joining one of the new super conferences - I can give you tens of millions of reasons. The former. Of course they would join the super. It depends who is staying in the "new" Big 12. Maybe I'm jaded by considering basketball, but from a basketball perspective I think that'd be an extremely attractive league for Cincinnati and "not bad" for football. I've seen crazier things happen. Back to Top GoCats105 General User Member Since: 1/31/2006 Location: Seattle, WA Post Count: 6,940 Status: Offline     RE: Maybe Conference Realignment Isn’t Over    Posted: 7/27/2021 5:05:56 PM  The Optimist wrote: GoCats105 wrote: cc-cat wrote: GoCats105 wrote: OU and Texas formally submitted their request letter to the SEC today. Also, I read elsewhere that games not involving OU or Texas pulled about the same TV rating as an AAC game. So if you're Cincinnati do you really wanna join that? What's the benefit? If you mean joining the crippled Big 12 - there is no reason. If you mean joining one of the new super conferences - I can give you tens of millions of reasons. The former. Of course they would join the super. It depends who is staying in the "new" Big 12. Maybe I'm jaded by considering basketball, but from a basketball perspective I think that'd be an extremely attractive league for Cincinnati and "not bad" for football. Unfortunately basketball has never been the driver in a lot of these decisions. You can't do much better than Kansas, TxTech, OkSt and Baylor in that regard. And I'm afraid they'll run into the same issues that WVU has with the league in regards to travel. But if a few other local schools were added maybe it won't be so bad. Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,512 Status: Offline     RE: Maybe Conference Realignment Isn’t Over    Posted: 7/27/2021 10:31:17 PM  rpbobcat wrote: mf279801 wrote: Pretty sure it will be either 14-0 or 13-1(TAMU) for both Texas and Oklahoma’s SEC membership. Once it’s clear they have the votes to get in, everyone will vote yes for it. Just heard a sports blurb on the radio. Its an anonymous source, but they said its a done deal,13-1 with A&M voting no. A&M released a statement today that they would support Texas. Back to Top The Optimist General User Member Since: 3/16/2007 Location: CLE Post Count: 5,555 Status: Offline     RE: Maybe Conference Realignment Isn’t Over    Posted: 7/27/2021 11:01:15 PM  GoCats105 wrote: The Optimist wrote: GoCats105 wrote: cc-cat wrote: GoCats105 wrote: OU and Texas formally submitted their request letter to the SEC today. Also, I read elsewhere that games not involving OU or Texas pulled about the same TV rating as an AAC game. So if you're Cincinnati do you really wanna join that? What's the benefit? If you mean joining the crippled Big 12 - there is no reason. If you mean joining one of the new super conferences - I can give you tens of millions of reasons. The former. Of course they would join the super. It depends who is staying in the "new" Big 12. Maybe I'm jaded by considering basketball, but from a basketball perspective I think that'd be an extremely attractive league for Cincinnati and "not bad" for football. Unfortunately basketball has never been the driver in a lot of these decisions. You can't do much better than Kansas, TxTech, OkSt and Baylor in that regard. And I'm afraid they'll run into the same issues that WVU has with the league in regards to travel. But if a few other local schools were added maybe it won't be so bad. Here is my Super-Optimist vision to bail on the MAC: East UConn Buffalo UMass Temple WVU Ohio Louisville Cincy West Memphis Tulane SMU Houston Texas Tech Oklahoma State Kansas Kansas State Why would anyone want the Athens TV market? They wouldn’t. Most of our alumni are in Cleveland, Columbus and Cincinnati. It’s time to stop pretending our TV market is Athens and Nelsonville and acknowledge we have some Bobcat fans who would prefer to watch the Bobcats over the Buckeyes around the rest of the state. I've seen crazier things happen. Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,016 Status: Offline     RE: Maybe Conference Realignment Isn’t Over    Posted: 7/27/2021 11:35:05 PM  The Optimist wrote: GoCats105 wrote: The Optimist wrote: GoCats105 wrote: cc-cat wrote: GoCats105 wrote: OU and Texas formally submitted their request letter to the SEC today. Also, I read elsewhere that games not involving OU or Texas pulled about the same TV rating as an AAC game. So if you're Cincinnati do you really wanna join that? What's the benefit? If you mean joining the crippled Big 12 - there is no reason. If you mean joining one of the new super conferences - I can give you tens of millions of reasons. The former. Of course they would join the super. It depends who is staying in the "new" Big 12. Maybe I'm jaded by considering basketball, but from a basketball perspective I think that'd be an extremely attractive league for Cincinnati and "not bad" for football. Unfortunately basketball has never been the driver in a lot of these decisions. You can't do much better than Kansas, TxTech, OkSt and Baylor in that regard. And I'm afraid they'll run into the same issues that WVU has with the league in regards to travel. But if a few other local schools were added maybe it won't be so bad. Here is my Super-Optimist vision to bail on the MAC: East UConn Buffalo UMass Temple WVU Ohio Louisville Cincy West Memphis Tulane SMU Houston Texas Tech Oklahoma State Kansas Kansas State Why would anyone want the Athens TV market? They wouldn’t. Most of our alumni are in Cleveland, Columbus and Cincinnati. It’s time to stop pretending our TV market is Athens and Nelsonville and acknowledge we have some Bobcat fans who would prefer to watch the Bobcats over the Buckeyes around the rest of the state. Well, I don't think anything like this will happen now, but years ago the MAC blew a deal that had Louisville and Cincinnati ready to join the MAC. It was a big headline in newspapers around the area -- including the Columbus Citizen-Journal (anybody remember that one?). However, the deal fell through because at the last minute the MAC Daddies refused to increase the MAC football scholarship number to the then national D1 limit of 105. In UC's case, of course, it was a chance to rejoin the MAC. This was back in the days when the MAC was a seven team league with Ohio, Toledo, BGSU, WMU, Kent State, Miami, and Marshall. These additions would have made it a nine-team league. I was so excited when this was announced, and I felt crushed when it fell through a few days later. I won't get my hopes up again, and it seems much less logical and possible today than it did back then. Louisville was much less a power program in football and basketball at that time, and Cincinnati had not yet tasted the glory of the Big East and BCS football. I think that boat has sailed. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top Flat Tire General User Member Since: 12/24/2006 Post Count: 119 Status: Offline     RE: Maybe Conference Realignment Isn’t Over    Posted: 7/28/2021 7:00:45 AM  I believe UC was a charter member of the MAC. UC was a member from 1946 and left in 1953. Back to Top Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame General User Member Since: 7/30/2010 Post Count: 3,299 Status: Offline     RE: Maybe Conference Realignment Isn’t Over    Posted: 7/28/2021 7:20:58 AM  The Optimist wrote: GoCats105 wrote: The Optimist wrote: GoCats105 wrote: cc-cat wrote: GoCats105 wrote: OU and Texas formally submitted their request letter to the SEC today. Also, I read elsewhere that games not involving OU or Texas pulled about the same TV rating as an AAC game. So if you're Cincinnati do you really wanna join that? What's the benefit? If you mean joining the crippled Big 12 - there is no reason. If you mean joining one of the new super conferences - I can give you tens of millions of reasons. The former. Of course they would join the super. It depends who is staying in the "new" Big 12. Maybe I'm jaded by considering basketball, but from a basketball perspective I think that'd be an extremely attractive league for Cincinnati and "not bad" for football. Unfortunately basketball has never been the driver in a lot of these decisions. You can't do much better than Kansas, TxTech, OkSt and Baylor in that regard. And I'm afraid they'll run into the same issues that WVU has with the league in regards to travel. But if a few other local schools were added maybe it won't be so bad. Here is my Super-Optimist vision to bail on the MAC: East UConn Buffalo UMass Temple WVU Ohio Louisville Cincy West Memphis Tulane SMU Houston Texas Tech Oklahoma State Kansas Kansas State Why would anyone want the Athens TV market? They wouldn’t. Most of our alumni are in Cleveland, Columbus and Cincinnati. It’s time to stop pretending our TV market is Athens and Nelsonville and acknowledge we have some Bobcat fans who would prefer to watch the Bobcats over the Buckeyes around the rest of the state. Really living up to your username here. Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,016 Status: Offline     RE: Maybe Conference Realignment Isn’t Over    Posted: 7/28/2021 10:27:11 AM  Flat Tire wrote: I believe UC was a charter member of the MAC. UC was a member from 1946 and left in 1953. And, their leaving was not voluntary, either, despite how it looks on paper. My father was president of the Faculty Advisory Council (precursor to Faculty Senate) and was in on the debate. Ohio University and a majority of the MAC administrations asked UC to withdraw. I don't remember the details that Dad told me, but it revolved around recruiting and/or player eligibility irregularities in football. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top GoCats105 General User Member Since: 1/31/2006 Location: Seattle, WA Post Count: 6,940 Status: Offline     RE: Maybe Conference Realignment Isn’t Over    Posted: 7/28/2021 10:29:51 AM  The Optimist wrote: GoCats105 wrote: The Optimist wrote: GoCats105 wrote: cc-cat wrote: GoCats105 wrote: OU and Texas formally submitted their request letter to the SEC today. Also, I read elsewhere that games not involving OU or Texas pulled about the same TV rating as an AAC game. So if you're Cincinnati do you really wanna join that? What's the benefit? If you mean joining the crippled Big 12 - there is no reason. If you mean joining one of the new super conferences - I can give you tens of millions of reasons. The former. Of course they would join the super. It depends who is staying in the "new" Big 12. Maybe I'm jaded by considering basketball, but from a basketball perspective I think that'd be an extremely attractive league for Cincinnati and "not bad" for football. Unfortunately basketball has never been the driver in a lot of these decisions. You can't do much better than Kansas, TxTech, OkSt and Baylor in that regard. And I'm afraid they'll run into the same issues that WVU has with the league in regards to travel. But if a few other local schools were added maybe it won't be so bad. Here is my Super-Optimist vision to bail on the MAC: East UConn Buffalo UMass Temple WVU Ohio Louisville Cincy West Memphis Tulane SMU Houston Texas Tech Oklahoma State Kansas Kansas State Why would anyone want the Athens TV market? They wouldn’t. Most of our alumni are in Cleveland, Columbus and Cincinnati. It’s time to stop pretending our TV market is Athens and Nelsonville and acknowledge we have some Bobcat fans who would prefer to watch the Bobcats over the Buckeyes around the rest of the state. Hey if you wanna get silly, at least be a little bit realistic. Conference-USA blows up and the remaining parts are spread to the MAC, Sun Belt, and upcoming new WAC. Army decides they want to join a conference because of the new playoff structure. Calling this 16-team conference BIG MAC, sponsored by McDonalds. POD 1: Kent State, Akron, Buffalo, Army POD 2: Miami, Toledo, Bowling Green, Eastern Michigan POD 3: Western Michigan, Central Michigan, Ball State, Northern Illinois POD 4: Ohio, Marshall, Western Kentucky, Middle Tennessee In this scenario Ohio is probably getting screwed the most because they don't maintain any of their natural rivalries. But this makes it easiest on travel for everyone. Nine game conference schedule, playing everyone in your POD every season. Then you play two opponents from every other POD on a rotation schedule. Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,016 Status: Offline     RE: Maybe Conference Realignment Isn’t Over    Posted: 7/28/2021 10:37:04 AM  Don't know about the pods, GoCats105, but I do think Marshall, WKU, and maybe MTU make a lot of sense in a realigned MAC. I'd also throw EMU out, and maybe Akron. Maybe add Illinois State and Indiana State. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top GoCats105 General User Member Since: 1/31/2006 Location: Seattle, WA Post Count: 6,940 Status: Offline     RE: Maybe Conference Realignment Isn’t Over    Posted: 7/28/2021 12:15:27 PM  OhioCatFan wrote: Don't know about the pods, GoCats105, but I do think Marshall, WKU, and maybe MTU make a lot of sense in a realigned MAC. I'd also throw EMU out, and maybe Akron. Maybe add Illinois State and Indiana State. Sure lets throw out some and try to establish new conference mates AND level them up from FCS to FBS. If we're gonna do that, at least bring in a great football program like James Madison. Back to Top OUcats82 General User Member Since: 1/9/2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Post Count: 1,829 Status: Offline     RE: Maybe Conference Realignment Isn’t Over    Posted: 7/28/2021 12:51:19 PM  cc-cat wrote: colobobcat66 wrote: Alan Swank wrote: I could see this eventually working out to 4 16 team conferences for a 64 team division and then everyone else in a lower division. Well there’s 65 teams (including ND) in the P-5 now so that just shuffles the teams with not much change in the teams involved. So which current P-5 team gets left out or do some current G-5 teams (Houston, BYU, Boise, Cincy, Memphis, CF) make it and replace more current P-5 teams (Vanderbilt, TCU, Wake Forrest )? Army, Navy, and Air Force will want in and Congress will (in public and behind the scenes) make it happen. And I personally would be more than OK with this. Ohio-The State University Back to Top giacomo General User Member Since: 11/20/2007 Post Count: 2,631 Status: Offline     RE: Maybe Conference Realignment Isn’t Over    Posted: 7/28/2021 4:38:41 PM  As they say here in Western PA, yinz guys are really thinking about this stuff! Back to Top Campus Flow General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 4,959 Status: Offline     RE: Maybe Conference Realignment Isn’t Over    Posted: 7/28/2021 7:11:24 PM  Introducing the 20 Team SEC. Oklahoma, Texas, Missouri and Texas A&M Arkansas, LSU, Ole Miss and Mississippi State Alabama. Auburn, Tennessee and Vanderbilt Georgia, Florida, Kentucky and South Carolina Ohio, West Virginia, Clemson, Florida State Pitch to the SEC a plan expanding Peden to 50,000 to make it happen. 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