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   Posted: 10/29/2024 1:51:43 PM 
Pataskala wrote:
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I'm aware these games are scheduled far in advance, but even the dumbest person at the MAC office or ESPN could predict Kent was going to be absolutely terrible this year, and these morons put them on national TV in a MACtion slot. As soon as a casual observer sees 0-8 next to Kent State's name on the screen they're going to immediately change the channel, with an occasional flip back to check the score.


In November, just about all MAC games are in national TV MACtion slots. The only Saturday game left before Thanksgiving is BG-BSU on the 23rd. Kent has to play somebody, somewhere, sometime. After us, they have MOFO and Akron(!) set for a regular ESPN channel or CBSSN, then Buffalo on the Tuesday before Thanksgiving probably on ESPN+ (only one MAC slot on ESPN that night and the other game is Toledo-Akron). Most of the better matchups were played in September and October when it's warmer and people are more likely to show up. Unless Kent plays all Saturday games in November (not easy to do, given that their opponents would play midweek games) they have to play some midweek games.


And therein lies the problem with MACtion. It's unbelievably watered down. There used to be a couple good matchups per week, maybe even one. Now it's all conference, all November, all the time. I know that's the contract the league signed, I'm just ranting because I hate it.

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   Posted: 10/30/2024 7:59:04 AM 
GoCats105 wrote:
Pataskala wrote:
GoCats105 wrote:
I'm aware these games are scheduled far in advance, but even the dumbest person at the MAC office or ESPN could predict Kent was going to be absolutely terrible this year, and these morons put them on national TV in a MACtion slot. As soon as a casual observer sees 0-8 next to Kent State's name on the screen they're going to immediately change the channel, with an occasional flip back to check the score.


In November, just about all MAC games are in national TV MACtion slots. The only Saturday game left before Thanksgiving is BG-BSU on the 23rd. Kent has to play somebody, somewhere, sometime. After us, they have MOFO and Akron(!) set for a regular ESPN channel or CBSSN, then Buffalo on the Tuesday before Thanksgiving probably on ESPN+ (only one MAC slot on ESPN that night and the other game is Toledo-Akron). Most of the better matchups were played in September and October when it's warmer and people are more likely to show up. Unless Kent plays all Saturday games in November (not easy to do, given that their opponents would play midweek games) they have to play some midweek games.


And therein lies the problem with MACtion. It's unbelievably watered down. There used to be a couple good matchups per week, maybe even one. Now it's all conference, all November, all the time. I know that's the contract the league signed, I'm just ranting because I hate it.


But I think, if I may play devil's advocate here, even in the streaming age with people cutting the cord by the millions, it still helps to make the MAC "the only game in town" in tv land. For people who don't necessarily want to watch the NBA or NHL on those particular nights. I'm not against it.
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   Posted: 10/30/2024 9:02:08 AM 
Tymaster wrote:
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Pataskala wrote:
GoCats105 wrote:
I'm aware these games are scheduled far in advance, but even the dumbest person at the MAC office or ESPN could predict Kent was going to be absolutely terrible this year, and these morons put them on national TV in a MACtion slot. As soon as a casual observer sees 0-8 next to Kent State's name on the screen they're going to immediately change the channel, with an occasional flip back to check the score.


In November, just about all MAC games are in national TV MACtion slots. The only Saturday game left before Thanksgiving is BG-BSU on the 23rd. Kent has to play somebody, somewhere, sometime. After us, they have MOFO and Akron(!) set for a regular ESPN channel or CBSSN, then Buffalo on the Tuesday before Thanksgiving probably on ESPN+ (only one MAC slot on ESPN that night and the other game is Toledo-Akron). Most of the better matchups were played in September and October when it's warmer and people are more likely to show up. Unless Kent plays all Saturday games in November (not easy to do, given that their opponents would play midweek games) they have to play some midweek games.


And therein lies the problem with MACtion. It's unbelievably watered down. There used to be a couple good matchups per week, maybe even one. Now it's all conference, all November, all the time. I know that's the contract the league signed, I'm just ranting because I hate it.


But I think, if I may play devil's advocate here, even in the streaming age with people cutting the cord by the millions, it still helps to make the MAC "the only game in town" in tv land. For people who don't necessarily want to watch the NBA or NHL on those particular nights. I'm not against it.


Correct.

It's in absolutely no way shape or form a bad thing to be playing on espn during the week.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 9 Thread: Kent St.
   Posted: 10/30/2024 1:23:58 PM 
Midweek MAC games had a huge following with my fellow bodybuilders at Gold's Gym in Pasadena, California. I bought an Ohio Bobcat cap from an East LA kid, who was selling hats at the Northridge Mall in the San Fernando Valley. It was one of the caps, in fact, that he had featured up on his display. When I asked him, "Why?," he said that the Bobcats were his favorite MACtion team. Even the 'bangers that I used to work with out on the streets of East L.A., Skidrow, Compton, and Long Beach as a mental health worker were extremely familiar with what was going on in the MAC thanks to these stand alone midweek games. For better or worse, these midweek games have given the MAC exposure as far West as Los Angeles. I don't know whether this has helped with recruiting or bringing money into the MAC, but that level of publicity isn't all bad.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 9 Thread: Kent St.
   Posted: 10/30/2024 2:49:03 PM 
Maddog13 wrote:
Midweek MAC games had a huge following with my fellow bodybuilders at Gold's Gym in Pasadena, California. I bought an Ohio Bobcat cap from an East LA kid, who was selling hats at the Northridge Mall in the San Fernando Valley. It was one of the caps, in fact, that he had featured up on his display. When I asked him, "Why?," he said that the Bobcats were his favorite MACtion team. Even the 'bangers that I used to work with out on the streets of East L.A., Skidrow, Compton, and Long Beach as a mental health worker were extremely familiar with what was going on in the MAC thanks to these stand alone midweek games. For better or worse, these midweek games have given the MAC exposure as far West as Los Angeles. I don't know whether this has helped with recruiting or bringing money into the MAC, but that level of publicity isn't all bad.


I think it is good for the school as it makes us a little more visible to an audience we might not reach. I have had quite a few people tell me they love the midweek games and actually started following the MAC because of it.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 9 Thread: Kent St.
   Posted: 10/30/2024 4:21:34 PM 
Mike Coleman wrote:
If this were a basketball game, we could expect a nice summary from Jeff about the dangers of this being a trap game.



Nahhh, cause Kent is D1. 😀
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 9 Thread: Kent St.
   Posted: 10/30/2024 9:04:57 PM 
Kent has been one dimensional in MAC games this season. They have a decent passing attack -- 6th in the MAC at 232 ypg. But their running game is 11th at 101 ypg. Ohio's pass defense is 3rd (190 ypg) and its run defense is 2nd (104 ypg). Ohio has the 3rd best rushing offense (203 ypg, 10 TDs) while Kent's rushing defense is dead last (235 ypg, 14 TDs). Ohio's pass offense is 10th in the MAC (190 ypg) while Kent's pass defense is 7th (240 ypg).

Their real problems are turnovers and sacks. In four MAC games they are -10 in turnover margin and have given up 17 sacks, worst in the MAC.

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   Posted: 10/31/2024 8:03:12 AM 
GoCats105 wrote:
I'm aware these games are scheduled far in advance, but even the dumbest person at the MAC office or ESPN could predict Kent was going to be absolutely terrible this year, and these morons put them on national TV in a MACtion slot. As soon as a casual observer sees 0-8 next to Kent State's name on the screen they're going to immediately change the channel, with an occasional flip back to check the score.

Virtually impossible to just simply keep one university out of the midweek rotation. The suits at ESPN and the MAC aren't thinking about that. The ratings numbers for two undefeated MAC teams and two winless MAC teams would be almost identical. You're only getting somewhere in the six figures, on a good night, anyway. No one is going to lose sleep if that number is only, say 200,000 versus 400,000. Advertising revenue remains the same.

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   Posted: 10/31/2024 9:04:11 AM 
Kinggeorge4 wrote:
Maddog13 wrote:
Midweek MAC games had a huge following with my fellow bodybuilders at Gold's Gym in Pasadena, California. I bought an Ohio Bobcat cap from an East LA kid, who was selling hats at the Northridge Mall in the San Fernando Valley. It was one of the caps, in fact, that he had featured up on his display. When I asked him, "Why?," he said that the Bobcats were his favorite MACtion team. Even the 'bangers that I used to work with out on the streets of East L.A., Skidrow, Compton, and Long Beach as a mental health worker were extremely familiar with what was going on in the MAC thanks to these stand alone midweek games. For better or worse, these midweek games have given the MAC exposure as far West as Los Angeles. I don't know whether this has helped with recruiting or bringing money into the MAC, but that level of publicity isn't all bad.


I think it is good for the school as it makes us a little more visible to an audience we might not reach. I have had quite a few people tell me they love the midweek games and actually started following the MAC because of it.



And as I constantly say, we don’t have that many cards to play - midweek MACtion… this is one.

We can’t give you diamonds and gold. What we can do is give you at least 4 games a year on espn with no other competition to showcase your skills. Perform and perhaps those riches may follow.

And if you’re a kid from out of state and your parents can’t see you play much… ESPN2 at 7PM. That is something we can offer that generally the Sun Belt or something cannot.

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   Posted: 10/31/2024 11:28:20 AM 
Tymaster wrote:
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The ratings numbers for two undefeated MAC teams and two winless MAC teams would be almost identical.




I think you're overstating things a bit here, but point taken.
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   Posted: 10/31/2024 11:49:56 AM 
SBH wrote:
Tymaster wrote:
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The ratings numbers for two undefeated MAC teams and two winless MAC teams would be almost identical.




I think you're overstating things a bit here, but point taken.


Those games are lucky to get 300,000 viewers. They would do better if they only had one game rather than having three cannibalizing each other, but again, how do you do that!? Heck, the MAC Championship only gets about one million. To your point, it's better exposure for the MAC if those 300,000 viewers were getting a good game, but that's impossible to procure one year before. It's why the NFL has flex scheduling.
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   Posted: 10/31/2024 1:11:30 PM 
Tymaster wrote:
SBH wrote:
Tymaster wrote:
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The ratings numbers for two undefeated MAC teams and two winless MAC teams would be almost identical.




I think you're overstating things a bit here, but point taken.


Those games are lucky to get 300,000 viewers. They would do better if they only had one game rather than having three cannibalizing each other, but again, how do you do that!? Heck, the MAC Championship only gets about one million. To your point, it's better exposure for the MAC if those 300,000 viewers were getting a good game, but that's impossible to procure one year before. It's why the NFL has flex scheduling.


ESPN is looking for a way to fill time slots with entertaining programming (that's the "E" in ESPN), especially for casual viewers. The MAC usually fills that bill. Nine of the 24 MAC league games played so far this season have been decided by a TD or less. Others have been at least close late in the game; our game vs Akron was six points in the fourth quarter before we scored two TDs to put it away. I wouldn't be surprised if the Nov 5th games get pretty good ratings numbers because all the networks will be reporting on the elections all night.

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   Posted: 10/31/2024 7:37:42 PM 
Ohio -17.5 O/U 53.5 Implied score Ohio 35.5, Kent State 18.
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   Posted: 10/31/2024 11:16:29 PM 
Ohio can't play sloppy. We aren't that good of a team to turn the ball over and make foolish penalties. It is a conference game in the MAC on the road. Ohio could lose this game if they play like they have at times with sloppy play. Ohio has yet to prove it can play back to back clean games. We didn't exactly blow out Morgan State. We play like the Kentucky and Miami games we can lose to anyone. Can the QB take care of the ball. Throwing 3 picks in one half any team can beat us if that happens. We take care the ball we win. We give it away anything can happen. Kent State has a lot of pride. Hope the Bobcats don't take that record for granted. This rivalry has always been hard fought games. We probably get Kent State's best effort. No team wants to go winless. Liberty lost the Kennesaw State last week. Run it down their throats and not get too cute with the playbook. Get a lead pound the rock take care of the ball and go home.
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   Posted: 11/1/2024 9:51:03 AM 
oubobcatjohn wrote:
Ohio can't play sloppy. We aren't that good of a team to turn the ball over and make foolish penalties. It is a conference game in the MAC on the road. Ohio could lose this game if they play like they have at times with sloppy play. Ohio has yet to prove it can play back to back clean games. We didn't exactly blow out Morgan State. We play like the Kentucky and Miami games we can lose to anyone. Can the QB take care of the ball. Throwing 3 picks in one half any team can beat us if that happens. We take care the ball we win. We give it away anything can happen. Kent State has a lot of pride. Hope the Bobcats don't take that record for granted. This rivalry has always been hard fought games. We probably get Kent State's best effort. No team wants to go winless. Liberty lost the Kennesaw State last week. Run it down their throats and not get too cute with the playbook. Get a lead pound the rock take care of the ball and go home.


Well said. Don't underestimate Kent State with nothing to lose. They're gonna come after Parker hard. I think he has another 100 yard rushing game because he'll side-step a lot of the rush, but I bet he takes a higher number of sacks. I'll rephrase, I HOPE he takes some sacks and doesn't try to throw out of it causing turnovers.

If we can run it down their throat, I think we could clear that spread. If we try to be cute - might be a long Wednesday night on a cold day in Kent in front of 3,000 people.
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   Posted: 11/1/2024 10:19:55 AM 
A reported 3,000 people. Probably 400 in the stands, 200 in the press box areas.
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   Posted: 11/2/2024 8:50:44 PM 
Most G5 games are lucky to get 100,000 viewers even on a weekend. For example, on Oct 12 the North Texas-FAU game in prime time on ESPN2 managed only 82,000. The Toledo-Buffalo noon game on ESNU had 40,000 and our game vs CMU at 4:00 drew only 24,000. That same week, a Thursday prime time JMU-Coastal game on ESPN2 had 390,000 viewers and a Wednesday NMSU-J'ville St game on ESPN2 in prime time had 310,000. But the UTEP-WKU game airing opposite the JMU game on ESPU had only 81,000. https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/college-football-tv-ratings /. A lot probably depends on what else is on.

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   Posted: 11/4/2024 10:05:02 AM 
Pataskala wrote:
Most G5 games are lucky to get 100,000 viewers even on a weekend. For example, on Oct 12 the North Texas-FAU game in prime time on ESPN2 managed only 82,000. The Toledo-Buffalo noon game on ESNU had 40,000 and our game vs CMU at 4:00 drew only 24,000. That same week, a Thursday prime time JMU-Coastal game on ESPN2 had 390,000 viewers and a Wednesday NMSU-J'ville St game on ESPN2 in prime time had 310,000. But the UTEP-WKU game airing opposite the JMU game on ESPU had only 81,000. https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/college-football-tv-ratings /. A lot probably depends on what else is on.


I'm really curious to see what the numbers are once ESPN launches a standalone app and you see more and more cable companies fold and less and less people subscribing to cable. Do people watch MACtion because "it's on" or do they seek it out to watch it? I believe the numbers for the NHL, NBA, and MLB will actually result in some real hard questions about their next tv contracts.
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   Posted: 11/4/2024 10:19:17 AM 
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Most G5 games are lucky to get 100,000 viewers even on a weekend. For example, on Oct 12 the North Texas-FAU game in prime time on ESPN2 managed only 82,000. The Toledo-Buffalo noon game on ESNU had 40,000 and our game vs CMU at 4:00 drew only 24,000. That same week, a Thursday prime time JMU-Coastal game on ESPN2 had 390,000 viewers and a Wednesday NMSU-J'ville St game on ESPN2 in prime time had 310,000. But the UTEP-WKU game airing opposite the JMU game on ESPU had only 81,000. https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/college-football-tv-ratings /. A lot probably depends on what else is on.


I'm really curious to see what the numbers are once ESPN launches a standalone app and you see more and more cable companies fold and less and less people subscribing to cable. Do people watch MACtion because "it's on" or do they seek it out to watch it? I believe the numbers for the NHL, NBA, and MLB will actually result in some real hard questions about their next tv contracts.


Bit of both, I imagine. MACtion has gained a bit of a cult following, in some part due to Barstool as well.

Everyone likes free football, especially during the weekday when your options are limited. Something else for the betting crowd to get involved in.

P5 football has turned into who can generate the most money and recruit the highest paid players, the MAC is as close to old school football as you can get and a lot of people like that. Ohio State vs Penn State was fun, but dudes who have to go to class on Wednesday afternoon and then put on their uniforms Wednesday night is a whole different vibe. I think there will always be a place for that, and mid-week MACtion is a big part of keeping it alive.
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   Posted: 11/4/2024 12:55:08 PM 
M.D.W.S.T wrote:
Tymaster wrote:
Pataskala wrote:
Most G5 games are lucky to get 100,000 viewers even on a weekend. For example, on Oct 12 the North Texas-FAU game in prime time on ESPN2 managed only 82,000. The Toledo-Buffalo noon game on ESNU had 40,000 and our game vs CMU at 4:00 drew only 24,000. That same week, a Thursday prime time JMU-Coastal game on ESPN2 had 390,000 viewers and a Wednesday NMSU-J'ville St game on ESPN2 in prime time had 310,000. But the UTEP-WKU game airing opposite the JMU game on ESPU had only 81,000. https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/college-football-tv-ratings /. A lot probably depends on what else is on.


I'm really curious to see what the numbers are once ESPN launches a standalone app and you see more and more cable companies fold and less and less people subscribing to cable. Do people watch MACtion because "it's on" or do they seek it out to watch it? I believe the numbers for the NHL, NBA, and MLB will actually result in some real hard questions about their next tv contracts.


Bit of both, I imagine. MACtion has gained a bit of a cult following, in some part due to Barstool as well.

Everyone likes free football, especially during the weekday when your options are limited. Something else for the betting crowd to get involved in.

P5 football has turned into who can generate the most money and recruit the highest paid players, the MAC is as close to old school football as you can get and a lot of people like that. Ohio State vs Penn State was fun, but dudes who have to go to class on Wednesday afternoon and then put on their uniforms Wednesday night is a whole different vibe. I think there will always be a place for that, and mid-week MACtion is a big part of keeping it alive.


ESPN doesn't currently reveal viewer numbers from its app for specific games and probably wouldn't in the future. If ESPNU can have numbers in the tens of thousands most games on the app draw in the hundreds, and some even lower than a hundred. Pretty embarrassing for them. I think for most sports the production costs are absorbed by the schools, and many of the costs for football ad basketball (such as Reghi's salary) seem to be paid for by the conferences, which makes it justifiable from Diisney's point of view.

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   Posted: 11/4/2024 7:15:11 PM 
So I’ll be a contrarian. Mid week football for the MAC is not good.

The MAC even with it being the only game in town still gets way less money than everybody else. So what if some dudes in a gym in Pasadena or some bar in Green Bay is watching because there is nothing else on and they want to bet on something . There’s lot of other stuff on, just not college football.

The attendance stinks and there is no logical argument that it is more than the same game would have on a Saturday afternoon.

The lodging/restaurant business loses big time on a weeknight game-does anybody care about that? I just checked a couple days ago, the OU INN had rooms for $168-still available for the EMU game less than 2 weeks out. There’s lot of money out the door.

Folks argue that the parents can watch - well every other game is on ESPN+ so they can watch anytime and much more able to go to a weekend game that’s midweek game(true for us all)

How much does OU lose on concessions, ticket sales and parking for midweek games?

There may be cult followers of MAC football, but the MAC is more of a laughingstock rather than something to be followed with 2000-3000 in the stands if we’re lucky. Do recruits really love to see that. Can that beat a weekend on campus. They sure can’t attend these games.

Lastly, I hear a lot about it opening up the MAC recruiting possibilities. Can anyone honestly say that the MAC has improved since MACtion started? (Even leaving the last couple years of NIL/transfers)

There’s really almost no one on here saying that it’s not a good thing, and I’m having trouble with that. End of rant.
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   Posted: 11/4/2024 9:20:00 PM 
colobobcat66 wrote:
So I’ll be a contrarian. Mid week football for the MAC is not good.

The MAC even with it being the only game in town still gets way less money than everybody else. So what if some dudes in a gym in Pasadena or some bar in Green Bay is watching because there is nothing else on and they want to bet on something . There’s lot of other stuff on, just not college football.

The attendance stinks and there is no logical argument that it is more than the same game would have on a Saturday afternoon.

The lodging/restaurant business loses big time on a weeknight game-does anybody care about that? I just checked a couple days ago, the OU INN had rooms for $168-still available for the EMU game less than 2 weeks out. There’s lot of money out the door.

Folks argue that the parents can watch - well every other game is on ESPN+ so they can watch anytime and much more able to go to a weekend game that’s midweek game(true for us all)

How much does OU lose on concessions, ticket sales and parking for midweek games?

There may be cult followers of MAC football, but the MAC is more of a laughingstock rather than something to be followed with 2000-3000 in the stands if we’re lucky. Do recruits really love to see that. Can that beat a weekend on campus. They sure can’t attend these games.

Lastly, I hear a lot about it opening up the MAC recruiting possibilities. Can anyone honestly say that the MAC has improved since MACtion started? (Even leaving the last couple years of NIL/transfers)

There’s really almost no one on here saying that it’s not a good thing, and I’m having trouble with that. End of rant.



Good Points, all of them; however, it seems as though the Bobcats have been able to bring in players as far West as California. Does this have to do with their midweek exposure, I have no idea. The feedback that I have gotten about the MAC from people as far West as California is that people see them as being old school/working class football, which has a certain appeal to some, who get tired of all the flashy bigtime programs. One shouldn't underestimate either how much Solich put this program on the map with his Nebraska ties.

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   Posted: 11/5/2024 9:23:50 AM 
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colobobcat66 wrote:
So I’ll be a contrarian. Mid week football for the MAC is not good.

The MAC even with it being the only game in town still gets way less money than everybody else. So what if some dudes in a gym in Pasadena or some bar in Green Bay is watching because there is nothing else on and they want to bet on something . There’s lot of other stuff on, just not college football.

The attendance stinks and there is no logical argument that it is more than the same game would have on a Saturday afternoon.

The lodging/restaurant business loses big time on a weeknight game-does anybody care about that? I just checked a couple days ago, the OU INN had rooms for $168-still available for the EMU game less than 2 weeks out. There’s lot of money out the door.

Folks argue that the parents can watch - well every other game is on ESPN+ so they can watch anytime and much more able to go to a weekend game that’s midweek game(true for us all)

How much does OU lose on concessions, ticket sales and parking for midweek games?

There may be cult followers of MAC football, but the MAC is more of a laughingstock rather than something to be followed with 2000-3000 in the stands if we’re lucky. Do recruits really love to see that. Can that beat a weekend on campus. They sure can’t attend these games.

Lastly, I hear a lot about it opening up the MAC recruiting possibilities. Can anyone honestly say that the MAC has improved since MACtion started? (Even leaving the last couple years of NIL/transfers)

There’s really almost no one on here saying that it’s not a good thing, and I’m having trouble with that. End of rant.



Good Points, all of them; however, it seems as though the Bobcats have been able to bring in players as far West as California. Does this have to do with their midweek exposure, I have no idea. The feedback that I have gotten about the MAC from people as far West as California is that people see them as being old school/working class football, which has a certain appeal to some, who get tired of all the flashy bigtime programs. One shouldn't underestimate either how much Solich put this program on the map with his Nebraska ties.


OU has had a huge pipeline from Florida for years. I wouldn't discount being able to have your friends and family see you play on TV at least four nationally televised games a year.

It's a marketing tool like anything else. You want any available eyes on your program. Luckily for OU, we've been pretty good the last two decades or so, so I do believe there is some benefit that greatly exceeds ticket revenue.

When I was in Hawaii a few years ago I sat at a bar in Waikiki and they had on OU football. I even ran into another couple who went to OU way back in the day. The bartender was from Ohio, he went to Ohio State, but he was excited to see Ohio football on TV - bc it's mostly west coast games. Now I'm not saying Ricky Hunt saw OU on TV two years ago and was like YESSSSS, but it's never a bad thing to have people see your team on TV - even if its in a bar in Green Bay or a gym in Pasedena. We exist. We deserve the screen time.

Point is you never know who is watching. You never know who is engaged. It's a commercial for the whole university and again - any perceived negatives don't outweigh the potential eyes.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 9 Thread: Kent St.
   Posted: 11/5/2024 9:54:48 AM 
Coaches say it helps a lot in recruiting athletes.

No reason not to believe them.
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   Posted: 11/5/2024 9:57:07 AM 
SBH wrote:
Coaches say it helps a lot in recruiting athletes.

No reason not to believe them.




Dont bring your facts and a positive attitude in here.
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