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Robert Fox
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  Message Not Read  RE: News you will not hear from the University:
   Posted: 3/9/2020 8:40:46 AM 
MonroeClassmate wrote:
IceCat76 wrote:
Bobcat110 wrote:
https://www.athensnews.com/news/campus/ou-concludes-march...



We often wonder what will happen to the "participation trophy" generation when they grow up. Now we know. The University should be embarrassed.


Yes, but BULLY for the BOBCAT SEVEN! They said, take this trophy and shove it. Giving up something they no doubt LOVE to exercise their right to free expression. Comrade you must go to the re-education camp or you may no longer play your instrument and march in the band.

In her intercourse with the education of students may OUr University always be right; but my University right or wrong. NOT



Here here! Assuming their decision was intentional and not just lazy, the Bobcat Seven have my respect. They were "invited" to attend the administration's thought-police council. They told the admins to shove it.
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   Posted: 3/9/2020 10:40:06 AM 
Anyone miss McDavis yet?
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  Message Not Read  RE: News you will not hear from the University:
   Posted: 3/9/2020 11:26:35 AM 
ExCat21 wrote:
Anyone miss McDavis yet?


I started missing him the day they announced Nellis !

To quote Joni Mitchell:
"You Don't Know What You've Got Till Its Gone".
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  Message Not Read  RE: News you will not hear from the University:
   Posted: 3/9/2020 1:42:26 PM 
ExCat21 wrote:
Anyone miss McDavis yet?


Yes, Sir! I always liked McDavis. I never understood all the negativity toward him from some quarters. Some hated him because he liked athletics. I understand that. But the general McDavis bashing that was rampant on campus never made any sense to me. I thought overall he did a very good job. Never wanted him to leave.


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  Message Not Read  RE: News you will not hear from the University:
   Posted: 3/9/2020 4:39:41 PM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
ExCat21 wrote:
Anyone miss McDavis yet?


Yes, Sir! I always liked McDavis. I never understood all the negativity toward him from some quarters. Some hated him because he liked athletics. I understand that. But the general McDavis bashing that was rampant on campus never made any sense to me. I thought overall he did a very good job. Never wanted him to leave.


I liked both Glidden and McDavis - both easily accessible. Rod got off to a bad start when he made the Urban Scholars Program his first big initiative followed by elevating the diversity office to a seat in Cutler Hall. Had he made the Appalachian Scholars Program his first big initiative, things probably would have gone much smoother.

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   Posted: 3/9/2020 4:43:38 PM 
Alan Swank wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
ExCat21 wrote:
Anyone miss McDavis yet?


Yes, Sir! I always liked McDavis. I never understood all the negativity toward him from some quarters. Some hated him because he liked athletics. I understand that. But the general McDavis bashing that was rampant on campus never made any sense to me. I thought overall he did a very good job. Never wanted him to leave.


I liked both Glidden and McDavis - both easily accessible. Rod got off to a bad start when he made the Urban Scholars Program his first big initiative followed by elevating the diversity office to a seat in Cutler Hall. Had he made the Appalachian Scholars Program his first big initiative, things probably would have gone much smoother.



Yeah, heaven forbid we promote minorities
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   Posted: 3/14/2020 7:03:38 AM 
Alan Swank wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
ExCat21 wrote:
Anyone miss McDavis yet?


Yes, Sir! I always liked McDavis. I never understood all the negativity toward him from some quarters. Some hated him because he liked athletics. I understand that. But the general McDavis bashing that was rampant on campus never made any sense to me. I thought overall he did a very good job. Never wanted him to leave.


I liked both Glidden and McDavis - both easily accessible. Rod got off to a bad start when he made the Urban Scholars Program his first big initiative followed by elevating the diversity office to a seat in Cutler Hall. Had he made the Appalachian Scholars Program his first big initiative, things probably would have gone much smoother.



Alan, can you expand on why you think he should've pushed the Appalachian scholar program first and why the Urban Scholar program push was a mistake? Iím genuinely interested to hear your take.
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Alan Swank
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  Message Not Read  RE: News you will not hear from the University:
   Posted: 3/14/2020 1:51:29 PM 
. wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
ExCat21 wrote:
Anyone miss McDavis yet?


Yes, Sir! I always liked McDavis. I never understood all the negativity toward him from some quarters. Some hated him because he liked athletics. I understand that. But the general McDavis bashing that was rampant on campus never made any sense to me. I thought overall he did a very good job. Never wanted him to leave.


I liked both Glidden and McDavis - both easily accessible. Rod got off to a bad start when he made the Urban Scholars Program his first big initiative followed by elevating the diversity office to a seat in Cutler Hall. Had he made the Appalachian Scholars Program his first big initiative, things probably would have gone much smoother.



Alan, can you expand on why you think he should've pushed the Appalachian scholar program first and why the Urban Scholar program push was a mistake? Iím genuinely interested to hear your take.


At the risk of opening a can of worms, Iíll give it a go. Whenever someone is a first, they are often identified by that characteristic Ė first this or the first that Ė and in this case, McDavis was the first black president at OU just like Julie has been identified as the first female AD at OU. With those labels come certain expectations and preconceived notions.

Secondly, and this is something Iíve observed over the almost 41 years Iíve lived in Athens and traveled extensively throughout the area, there are quite a few people including current and former employees of OU who donít have a very positive view of the institution. Yes, Iíve lobbed my share of criticism at various programs and people associated with the university but at the same time I believe in it enough that Iíve encouraged countless high school students to give OU a serious look. Those criticisms are quite different than the outright disdain for the institution that Iíve heard and seen.

With that background, imagine what some people thought when the first big initiative of the first black president at OU was to offer scholarships to kids from the big city Ė read Ė black kids. What about the kids from Vinton County and Scioto County or Athens County? Arenít those kids good enough? Donít they deserve an education?

I honestly believe that had his first initiative been an Appalachian Scholars Program, he would have received far less initial criticism than he received.


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  Message Not Read  RE: News you will not hear from the University:
   Posted: 3/14/2020 2:28:32 PM 
Alan Swank wrote:
. wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
ExCat21 wrote:
Anyone miss McDavis yet?


Yes, Sir! I always liked McDavis. I never understood all the negativity toward him from some quarters. Some hated him because he liked athletics. I understand that. But the general McDavis bashing that was rampant on campus never made any sense to me. I thought overall he did a very good job. Never wanted him to leave.


I liked both Glidden and McDavis - both easily accessible. Rod got off to a bad start when he made the Urban Scholars Program his first big initiative followed by elevating the diversity office to a seat in Cutler Hall. Had he made the Appalachian Scholars Program his first big initiative, things probably would have gone much smoother.



Alan, can you expand on why you think he should've pushed the Appalachian scholar program first and why the Urban Scholar program push was a mistake? Iím genuinely interested to hear your take.


At the risk of opening a can of worms, Iíll give it a go. Whenever someone is a first, they are often identified by that characteristic Ė first this or the first that Ė and in this case, McDavis was the first black president at OU just like Julie has been identified as the first female AD at OU. With those labels come certain expectations and preconceived notions.

Secondly, and this is something Iíve observed over the almost 41 years Iíve lived in Athens and traveled extensively throughout the area, there are quite a few people including current and former employees of OU who donít have a very positive view of the institution. Yes, Iíve lobbed my share of criticism at various programs and people associated with the university but at the same time I believe in it enough that Iíve encouraged countless high school students to give OU a serious look. Those criticisms are quite different than the outright disdain for the institution that Iíve heard and seen.

With that background, imagine what some people thought when the first big initiative of the first black president at OU was to offer scholarships to kids from the big city Ė read Ė black kids. What about the kids from Vinton County and Scioto County or Athens County? Arenít those kids good enough? Donít they deserve an education?

I honestly believe that had his first initiative been an Appalachian Scholars Program, he would have received far less initial criticism than he received.




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  Message Not Read  RE: News you will not hear from the University:
   Posted: 3/14/2020 4:06:26 PM 
https://www.athensnews.com/opinion/letters/ou-should-be-c...
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  Message Not Read  RE: News you will not hear from the University:
   Posted: 3/14/2020 5:53:45 PM 
Bingo this womanís response hits the nail directly on the head. Based on what is now required of the 110 members, I Promise to Drink Milk Responsibly, I too believe EVEVY person attempting to enroll at OU MUST sign said statement as well. Certainly this fine, upstanding paragon of higher education would never want to be accused of unfairly discriminating against only certain groups or organizations.

Good grief what a -ucking embarrassment ANYONE associated with this -hit-show of an investigation has been. Not to mention what a colossal waste of taxpayer monies spent pursuing this farce.



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   Posted: 3/14/2020 6:08:37 PM 
BobcatSports wrote:
Bingo this womanís response hits the nail directly on the head. Based on what is now required of the 110 members, I Promise to Drink Milk Responsibly, I too believe EVEVY person attempting to enroll at OU MUST sign said statement as well. Certainly this fine, upstanding paragon of higher education would never want to be accused of unfairly discriminating against only certain groups or organizations.

Good grief what a -ucking embarrassment ANYONE associated with this -hit-show of an investigation has been. Not to mention what a colossal waste of taxpayer monies spent pursuing this farce.





Iím sure this will help raise enrollment and increase applications 🤦🏼‍♂️

Agree, embarassing

Last Edited: 3/14/2020 6:09:01 PM by BillyTheCat

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   Posted: 3/14/2020 8:09:52 PM 
Bobcat110 wrote:
https://www.athensnews.com/opinion/letters/ou-should-be-c...


Hopefully Ms. Eubanks sent a similar letter to The Post.

And hopefully they print it.

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   Posted: 3/14/2020 9:39:54 PM 
rpbobcat wrote:
MonroeClassmate wrote:
The editors probably got the word from administration to tow the line or the Post would be next!


That's part of it, I'm sure.

When the story about fraternities first broke, The Post enthusiastically supported shutting them down.

I don't recall The Post ever doing a follow up when they were cleared.

So I'm sure a number of The Post staff are in full agreement with the administration when it comes to evil organizations like fraternities and
the 110.

The reporter I wrote to said they were "currently looking at doing a larger story that discusses all of the studying organizations".

Let's see if that ever gets published.



The Dispatch, the Beacon Journal, the Blade, and the Plain Dealer would be more impactful.

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Alan Swank
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   Posted: 3/15/2020 11:00:12 AM 
And there you have it - in today's Dispatch:

https://www.dispatch.com/opinion/20200315/letter-ou-band-...
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   Posted: 3/15/2020 5:24:05 PM 
Another on campus group felt they did not get due process in an encounter with the university. Many wallets closed from this Frat's alums who had been historically very generous.
IMO tough spot for admins who need to respond to many very serious issues and expected to be policy driven and even handed.
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  Message Not Read  RE: News you will not hear from the University:
   Posted: 3/15/2020 9:28:24 PM 
ytownbobcat wrote:
Another on campus group felt they did not get due process in an encounter with the university. Many wallets closed from this Frat's alums who had been historically very generous.
IMO tough spot for admins who need to respond to many very serious issues and expected to be policy driven and even handed.


They made a tough spot tougher on themselves though.

If they'd ended the investigation and trumpted the fact that no hazing was found, lamented the toll this took on current members of the 110, something along those lines, I think 110 alums would feel differently. This effort to save face by pointing to cultural issues is a self-inflicted wound.
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   Posted: 3/16/2020 9:30:41 AM 
Alan Swank wrote:
. wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
ExCat21 wrote:
Anyone miss McDavis yet?


Yes, Sir! I always liked McDavis. I never understood all the negativity toward him from some quarters. Some hated him because he liked athletics. I understand that. But the general McDavis bashing that was rampant on campus never made any sense to me. I thought overall he did a very good job. Never wanted him to leave.


I liked both Glidden and McDavis - both easily accessible. Rod got off to a bad start when he made the Urban Scholars Program his first big initiative followed by elevating the diversity office to a seat in Cutler Hall. Had he made the Appalachian Scholars Program his first big initiative, things probably would have gone much smoother.



Alan, can you expand on why you think he should've pushed the Appalachian scholar program first and why the Urban Scholar program push was a mistake? Iím genuinely interested to hear your take.


At the risk of opening a can of worms, Iíll give it a go. Whenever someone is a first, they are often identified by that characteristic Ė first this or the first that Ė and in this case, McDavis was the first black president at OU just like Julie has been identified as the first female AD at OU. With those labels come certain expectations and preconceived notions.

Secondly, and this is something Iíve observed over the almost 41 years Iíve lived in Athens and traveled extensively throughout the area, there are quite a few people including current and former employees of OU who donít have a very positive view of the institution. Yes, Iíve lobbed my share of criticism at various programs and people associated with the university but at the same time I believe in it enough that Iíve encouraged countless high school students to give OU a serious look. Those criticisms are quite different than the outright disdain for the institution that Iíve heard and seen.

With that background, imagine what some people thought when the first big initiative of the first black president at OU was to offer scholarships to kids from the big city Ė read Ė black kids. What about the kids from Vinton County and Scioto County or Athens County? Arenít those kids good enough? Donít they deserve an education?

I honestly believe that had his first initiative been an Appalachian Scholars Program, he would have received far less initial criticism than he received.




I appreciate you taking the time to expound on your opinion. That subject could be a landmine, but I see where your thinking is at.

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