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Topic:  RE: 2020 6'7" PF Sam Towns (Winchendon School, MA) - Ohio Offer
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2020 6'7" PF Sam Towns (Winchendon School, MA) - Ohio Offer
   Posted: 2/12/2020 6:03:30 PM 
It was in the "works" long before the date he entered the portal.
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2020 6'7" PF Sam Towns (Winchendon School, MA) - Ohio Offer
   Posted: 2/12/2020 8:55:52 PM 
Andrew Ruck wrote:
I noticed on the Winchendon website, he is listed as 6'9". On VerbalCommits and other recruiting sites...they show 6'8".

Did he have any other offers?


According to VC:
Ohio
Middle Tennessee
Fairfield
Illinois-Chicago
Elon
UMass Lowell
Appy State
Siena
UNC Greensboro
Mount St. Mary's
Quinnipiac
Canisius
Cleveland State
Northern Kentucky

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  Message Not Read  RE: 2020 6'7" PF Sam Towns (Winchendon School, MA) - Ohio Offer
   Posted: 2/12/2020 9:25:09 PM 
bigtillyoopsupsideurhead wrote:
OU_Country wrote:
brucecuth wrote:
If BVP wants to transfer (I hope not), he'll probably stick around another season. He'll have been on campus 4 yrs and most likely have his degree and then can transfer without sitting for a year. I have heard nothing to indicate he wants to leave or is considering his options.


Was there any indication Jason Carter wanted to leave until he put his name in the portal?


Saul was let go on March 15th, Jason Carter entered the transfer portal on March 20th.

Coaching changes are always going to cause guys to think twice about staying.


While I didn't know the dates, where I was going with this is that it seems like there rarely is an indication given much in advance. I was wondering about any suspicions from Carter that people were aware of.
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2020 6'7" PF Sam Towns (Winchendon School, MA) - Ohio Offer
   Posted: 2/13/2020 12:36:42 AM 
Like this verbal a lot. Have to believe more schollies will be available after the season. I can't see both McMurray and Springs sticking around. McMurray's minutes appear to be officially history now with everyone healthy. Pieces are coming together, but we still lack one key ingredient....a center who can put up 8 points and 6 boards a game.

Last Edited: 2/13/2020 12:41:34 AM by FearLeon


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  Message Not Read  RE: 2020 6'7" PF Sam Towns (Winchendon School, MA) - Ohio Offer
   Posted: 2/13/2020 10:37:05 AM 
FearLeon wrote:
Like this verbal a lot. Have to believe more schollies will be available after the season. I can't see both McMurray and Springs sticking around. McMurray's minutes appear to be officially history now with everyone healthy. Pieces are coming together, but we still lack one key ingredient....a center who can put up 8 points and 6 boards a game.



I mentioned a similar thought in another thread. Not wishing either of them away, and I'd rather see them elevate their games and stay, but I can see one of them leaving for more minutes potentially.

Disagree on the thoughts about a center. Give me a 6'3" to 6'6" guy with an all around game over another big guy that's just "Okay". I'd rather see us play 3-4 guards and rely primarily on Foster and BVP to be the "bigs". Now, if another scholly opens up because of a transfer out, the need to address size is probably there.
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2020 6'7" PF Sam Towns (Winchendon School, MA) - Ohio Offer
   Posted: 2/13/2020 11:25:52 AM 
OU_Country wrote:
FearLeon wrote:
Like this verbal a lot. Have to believe more schollies will be available after the season. I can't see both McMurray and Springs sticking around. McMurray's minutes appear to be officially history now with everyone healthy. Pieces are coming together, but we still lack one key ingredient....a center who can put up 8 points and 6 boards a game.



I mentioned a similar thought in another thread. Not wishing either of them away, and I'd rather see them elevate their games and stay, but I can see one of them leaving for more minutes potentially.

Disagree on the thoughts about a center. Give me a 6'3" to 6'6" guy with an all around game over another big guy that's just "Okay". I'd rather see us play 3-4 guards and rely primarily on Foster and BVP to be the "bigs". Now, if another scholly opens up because of a transfer out, the need to address size is probably there.

Also like the Towns verbal and that he's seasoned a year beyond HS with still 4 years to play.

I don't think anyone wants to recruit guys who are just "okay". 8 points, 6 boards AND block a couple shots a game would be an impact player. If we don't add a big next year we will be in trouble. Foster is a foul magnet and is regularly torched on D (he will improve but I don't think he will be ready for 20+ minutes). BVP can function as the 5 on defense in spurts but he is also a person who picks up a lot of fouls, if he's ridding the pine early it will be hard for us to score. If BVP has to bang down low on every possession it will impact his performance on the other end where we really need him to excel. Give me a JUCO big body who can start at the 5 next to BVP on Day 1 and I think we can take a step forward next year.
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2020 6'7" PF Sam Towns (Winchendon School, MA) - Ohio Offer
   Posted: 2/13/2020 1:09:21 PM 
I'll leave it others to evaluate what they see skill wise. One thing about a year at prep school is this kid is starting to fill out.

Fall 2018

https://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?fr=yfp-t&p=Sa...

vs. fall 2019 - so he will continue to add (and probably has added) weight and muscle - but you can see the difference a year made in arms and shoulders - he is #5

https://athletics.winchendon.org/news/2019/12/10/boys-pre...

So recruiting class is 6.5 - 6.9 and 6.8+ ----- nice - will be interesting to see how the team transforms.

Last Edited: 2/13/2020 1:12:59 PM by cc-cat

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  Message Not Read  RE: 2020 6'7" PF Sam Towns (Winchendon School, MA) - Ohio Offer
   Posted: 2/13/2020 8:25:36 PM 
This kid will need to get a lot stronger. Congrats to him and the cats, we really need an impact big with our last signing and if someone transfers, we need a Hester type.


Nobody despises to lose more than I do. That's got me into trouble over the years, but it also made a man of mediocre ability into a pretty good coach. Woody Hayes

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  Message Not Read  RE: 2020 6'7" PF Sam Towns (Winchendon School, MA) - Ohio Offer
   Posted: 2/13/2020 9:08:37 PM 
OUs LONG Driver wrote:
OU_Country wrote:
FearLeon wrote:
Like this verbal a lot. Have to believe more schollies will be available after the season. I can't see both McMurray and Springs sticking around. McMurray's minutes appear to be officially history now with everyone healthy. Pieces are coming together, but we still lack one key ingredient....a center who can put up 8 points and 6 boards a game.



I mentioned a similar thought in another thread. Not wishing either of them away, and I'd rather see them elevate their games and stay, but I can see one of them leaving for more minutes potentially.

Disagree on the thoughts about a center. Give me a 6'3" to 6'6" guy with an all around game over another big guy that's just "Okay". I'd rather see us play 3-4 guards and rely primarily on Foster and BVP to be the "bigs". Now, if another scholly opens up because of a transfer out, the need to address size is probably there.

Also like the Towns verbal and that he's seasoned a year beyond HS with still 4 years to play.

I don't think anyone wants to recruit guys who are just "okay". 8 points, 6 boards AND block a couple shots a game would be an impact player. If we don't add a big next year we will be in trouble. Foster is a foul magnet and is regularly torched on D (he will improve but I don't think he will be ready for 20+ minutes). BVP can function as the 5 on defense in spurts but he is also a person who picks up a lot of fouls, if he's ridding the pine early it will be hard for us to score. If BVP has to bang down low on every possession it will impact his performance on the other end where we really need him to excel. Give me a JUCO big body who can start at the 5 next to BVP on Day 1 and I think we can take a step forward next year.


I think, if no one leaves, there's enough size on the team that I'm still in favor of wherever the best "ready now" player is. Even if it's a guy that's a shooting guard.

How many true big post guys in the MAC does Ohio have to worry about defending?

I'll take a player that can have the influence on a game like Jeremy Harris or Jaylin Walker over a 6'9" wide body that can't shoot.
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2020 6'7" PF Sam Towns (Winchendon School, MA) - Ohio Offer
   Posted: 2/13/2020 10:16:56 PM 
OU_Country wrote:
OUs LONG Driver wrote:
OU_Country wrote:
FearLeon wrote:
Like this verbal a lot. Have to believe more schollies will be available after the season. I can't see both McMurray and Springs sticking around. McMurray's minutes appear to be officially history now with everyone healthy. Pieces are coming together, but we still lack one key ingredient....a center who can put up 8 points and 6 boards a game.



I mentioned a similar thought in another thread. Not wishing either of them away, and I'd rather see them elevate their games and stay, but I can see one of them leaving for more minutes potentially.

Disagree on the thoughts about a center. Give me a 6'3" to 6'6" guy with an all around game over another big guy that's just "Okay". I'd rather see us play 3-4 guards and rely primarily on Foster and BVP to be the "bigs". Now, if another scholly opens up because of a transfer out, the need to address size is probably there.

Also like the Towns verbal and that he's seasoned a year beyond HS with still 4 years to play.

I don't think anyone wants to recruit guys who are just "okay". 8 points, 6 boards AND block a couple shots a game would be an impact player. If we don't add a big next year we will be in trouble. Foster is a foul magnet and is regularly torched on D (he will improve but I don't think he will be ready for 20+ minutes). BVP can function as the 5 on defense in spurts but he is also a person who picks up a lot of fouls, if he's ridding the pine early it will be hard for us to score. If BVP has to bang down low on every possession it will impact his performance on the other end where we really need him to excel. Give me a JUCO big body who can start at the 5 next to BVP on Day 1 and I think we can take a step forward next year.


I think, if no one leaves, there's enough size on the team that I'm still in favor of wherever the best "ready now" player is. Even if it's a guy that's a shooting guard.

How many true big post guys in the MAC does Ohio have to worry about defending?

I'll take a player that can have the influence on a game like Jeremy Harris or Jaylin Walker over a 6'9" wide body that can't shoot.


I don't think it's a stretch to prefer those guys over a bad post player who can't shoot. I agree. How about we find a 6'-9" wide body who can shoot? Antonio Campbell have a brother?

I like the small lineup with BVP at the five in spurts as it seems like our best offensive lineup (I've not looked at any stats to back that up). I just don't think we can do that all game unless we're matching another team doing the same. I think it increases the likelihood of BVP riding the pine with foul trouble and that's the point where I worry. Don't get me wrong he can get in foul trouble at the 4 too, it just seems more likely to me if we ask him to play the 5.

I didn't know how many true bigs there are in the MAC so I looked it up...

BG will have 3 bigs over 6'-10" next year
Buffalo has 2 over 6'-10"
Kent has a 6'-11" 300 lb Freshman
Miami's biggest guy is Bowman at 6'-8 & 273 lbs but they signed a 6'-10" Frosh
Akron is graduating a 6'-10" guy but no real other bigs, I'm sure they will add a JUCO big or a transfer.
Ball St has two 6'-10" guys
CMU has 1 6'-10" guy
EMU has 6'-10" and graduating a 7'-0"
NIU McCarty is their biggest returning player at 6'-8"
Toledo has 4 guys 6'-10" or bigger with Knapke graduating,
WMU biggest guy is Wright at 6'-8".
We have Foster & Springs over 6'-10" but they are 2 of the lightest on this list.




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  Message Not Read  RE: 2020 6'7" PF Sam Towns (Winchendon School, MA) - Ohio Offer
   Posted: 2/13/2020 11:27:39 PM 
OUs LONG Driver wrote:
OU_Country wrote:
OUs LONG Driver wrote:
OU_Country wrote:
FearLeon wrote:
Like this verbal a lot. Have to believe more schollies will be available after the season. I can't see both McMurray and Springs sticking around. McMurray's minutes appear to be officially history now with everyone healthy. Pieces are coming together, but we still lack one key ingredient....a center who can put up 8 points and 6 boards a game.



I mentioned a similar thought in another thread. Not wishing either of them away, and I'd rather see them elevate their games and stay, but I can see one of them leaving for more minutes potentially.

Disagree on the thoughts about a center. Give me a 6'3" to 6'6" guy with an all around game over another big guy that's just "Okay". I'd rather see us play 3-4 guards and rely primarily on Foster and BVP to be the "bigs". Now, if another scholly opens up because of a transfer out, the need to address size is probably there.

Also like the Towns verbal and that he's seasoned a year beyond HS with still 4 years to play.

I don't think anyone wants to recruit guys who are just "okay". 8 points, 6 boards AND block a couple shots a game would be an impact player. If we don't add a big next year we will be in trouble. Foster is a foul magnet and is regularly torched on D (he will improve but I don't think he will be ready for 20+ minutes). BVP can function as the 5 on defense in spurts but he is also a person who picks up a lot of fouls, if he's ridding the pine early it will be hard for us to score. If BVP has to bang down low on every possession it will impact his performance on the other end where we really need him to excel. Give me a JUCO big body who can start at the 5 next to BVP on Day 1 and I think we can take a step forward next year.


I think, if no one leaves, there's enough size on the team that I'm still in favor of wherever the best "ready now" player is. Even if it's a guy that's a shooting guard.

How many true big post guys in the MAC does Ohio have to worry about defending?

I'll take a player that can have the influence on a game like Jeremy Harris or Jaylin Walker over a 6'9" wide body that can't shoot.


I don't think it's a stretch to prefer those guys over a bad post player who can't shoot. I agree. How about we find a 6'-9" wide body who can shoot? Antonio Campbell have a brother?

I like the small lineup with BVP at the five in spurts as it seems like our best offensive lineup (I've not looked at any stats to back that up). I just don't think we can do that all game unless we're matching another team doing the same. I think it increases the likelihood of BVP riding the pine with foul trouble and that's the point where I worry. Don't get me wrong he can get in foul trouble at the 4 too, it just seems more likely to me if we ask him to play the 5.

I didn't know how many true bigs there are in the MAC so I looked it up...

BG will have 3 bigs over 6'-10" next year
Buffalo has 2 over 6'-10"
Kent has a 6'-11" 300 lb Freshman
Miami's biggest guy is Bowman at 6'-8 & 273 lbs but they signed a 6'-10" Frosh
Akron is graduating a 6'-10" guy but no real other bigs, I'm sure they will add a JUCO big or a transfer.
Ball St has two 6'-10" guys
CMU has 1 6'-10" guy
EMU has 6'-10" and graduating a 7'-0"
NIU McCarty is their biggest returning player at 6'-8"
Toledo has 4 guys 6'-10" or bigger with Knapke graduating,
WMU biggest guy is Wright at 6'-8".
We have Foster & Springs over 6'-10" but they are 2 of the lightest on this list.





I'm not against big guys, but I just think this team needs an immediate injection of older talent. If that comes in the form of a 6'9" transfer with Tony's skills, great.

Now, with regards to the size, first, there's more than I realized in the MAC. That said, how many of those guys can actually play well enough to be someone to worry about for a defense? I don't know the answer, but I do know that the MAC isn't typically full of 6'10 guys that can be 15 and 8 guys, right?

We'll see what happens. Philosophically, I think in 2020, guards and stretch 4 type players are the most important players to have. Teams win in March because of guards that can create more than bigs. Ohio went dancing under Groce because of Basset and Cooper more than the post players.

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  Message Not Read  RE: 2020 6'7" PF Sam Towns (Winchendon School, MA) - Ohio Offer
   Posted: 2/14/2020 12:25:32 AM 
allen wrote:
This kid will need to get a lot stronger. Congrats to him and the cats, we really need an impact big with our last signing and if someone transfers, we need a Hester type.


Tom Hester?
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2020 6'7" PF Sam Towns (Winchendon School, MA) - Ohio Offer
   Posted: 2/14/2020 11:55:01 AM 
FlashGary wrote:
allen wrote:
This kid will need to get a lot stronger. Congrats to him and the cats, we really need an impact big with our last signing and if someone transfers, we need a Hester type.


Tom Hester?


A true blast from the past.


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  Message Not Read  RE: 2020 6'7" PF Sam Towns (Winchendon School, MA) - Ohio Offer
   Posted: 2/19/2020 12:02:41 PM 
I don't know if I see Towns as a true 4. I could see a starting lineup next year of Preston at PG, McDay at the 2, Towns at the 3, BVP at the 4 and a transfer/JUCO at the 5. That way you still have Roderick, Foster, White, Granger, Murrell, Brown and replacements for McMurray and Springs (or heck, both of them return) to come off the bench.
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2020 6'7" PF Sam Towns (Winchendon School, MA) - Ohio Offer
   Posted: 2/19/2020 2:37:15 PM 
Bobcat1998 wrote:
I don't know if I see Towns as a true 4. I could see a starting lineup next year of Preston at PG, McDay at the 2, Towns at the 3, BVP at the 4 and a transfer/JUCO at the 5. That way you still have Roderick, Foster, White, Granger, Murrell, Brown and replacements for McMurray and Springs (or heck, both of them return) to come off the bench.


If Saul were still here, at least one of those named above would likely transfer. It will be interesting to see if Boals can keep this team together.
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2020 6'7" PF Sam Towns (Winchendon School, MA) - Ohio Offer
   Posted: 2/20/2020 12:57:59 AM 
No one can keep teams together any more.
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2020 6'7" PF Sam Towns (Winchendon School, MA) - Ohio Offer
   Posted: 2/21/2020 11:30:59 AM 
This recruiting site has him as the 30th best recruit in New England. Most of the commitments above him are P5, A-10 and Big East.

https://newenglandrecruitingreport.com/rankings/new-engla... /
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  Message Not Read  RE: 2020 6'7" PF Sam Towns (Winchendon School, MA) - Ohio Offer
   Posted: 2/22/2020 2:27:49 PM 
IceCat76 wrote:
This recruiting site has him as the 30th best recruit in New England. Most of the commitments above him are P5, A-10 and Big East.

https://newenglandrecruitingreport.com/rankings/new-engla... /


Hard not to get excited about this verbal.


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  Message Not Read  RE: 2020 6'7" PF Sam Towns (Winchendon School, MA) - Ohio Offer
   Posted: 4/15/2020 2:21:30 PM 
Sam has signed.
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