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Karl Anthony Towns, Jamal Murray, Jared Vanderbilt, AD, Bam, Tyler Herro, Julius Randle, Devin Booker, Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, De'Aaron Fox, Malik Monk, John Wall...and I'm probably missing a few. And those are just playoff guys from Kentucky, not counting guys like Shaedon Sharpe, Kevin Knox, Ty-Ty Washington, Nerlens Noel, etc... So here's my questions: how in the HECK has he only won one championship at Kentucky? And should Coach Calipari be considered an underachiever in his run at Kentucky? Back to Top GraffZ06 General User Member Since: 1/5/2005 Location: Dayton, OH Post Count: 1,913 Status: Offline     RE: OT: Kentucky players in the NBA playoffs    Posted: 5/13/2023 11:54:36 AM  How many of UKs guys played more than one year there? They are the kings of recruiting 1 and dones to feed the NBA for sure. Doesn't mean that's a solid strategy for any type of sustained success at the college level. Superior raw talent only gets you so far. Top 25. Top few spots in the SEC. In the NCAA tourney. Sure. But when you get to the pointy end of the spear it takes more than that including some luck (injuries and matchups). Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,485 Status: Offline     RE: OT: Kentucky players in the NBA playoffs    Posted: 5/15/2023 10:28:24 AM  GraffZ06 wrote: How many of UKs guys played more than one year there? They are the kings of recruiting 1 and dones to feed the NBA for sure. Doesn't mean that's a solid strategy for any type of sustained success at the college level. Superior raw talent only gets you so far. Top 25. Top few spots in the SEC. In the NCAA tourney. Sure. But when you get to the pointy end of the spear it takes more than that including some luck (injuries and matchups). Exactly, they are the KINGS of 1 and DONE, they are 18 playing together for the first time against older youngmen. It makes a difference, a difference that sometimes talent cannot overcome. Back to Top Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame General User Member Since: 7/30/2010 Post Count: 3,286 Status: Offline     RE: OT: Kentucky players in the NBA playoffs    Posted: 5/15/2023 10:45:45 AM  Yep, don't think it's a coincidence that VCU, George Mason, Butler, Loyola Chicago, Wichita State, etc. all improved their standings substantially during the 1 and done era. Back to Top OUVan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Bethesda, MD Post Count: 5,580 Status: Offline     RE: OT: Kentucky players in the NBA playoffs    Posted: 5/16/2023 11:51:22 AM  Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote: Yep, don't think it's a coincidence that VCU, George Mason, Butler, Loyola Chicago, Wichita State, etc. all improved their standings substantially during the 1 and done era. And then came the transfer portal... Back to Top Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame General User Member Since: 7/30/2010 Post Count: 3,286 Status: Offline     RE: OT: Kentucky players in the NBA playoffs    Posted: 5/16/2023 12:57:59 PM  OUVan wrote: Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote: Yep, don't think it's a coincidence that VCU, George Mason, Butler, Loyola Chicago, Wichita State, etc. all improved their standings substantially during the 1 and done era. And then came the transfer portal... Yeah, I'm also not super convinced the transfer portal is a sky-is-falling thing for mid-majors, either. The early data certainly doesn't suggest as much, and it's not like this past NCAA tournament was just blue bloods dominating. Back to Top 100%Cat General User Member Since: 1/17/2013 Post Count: 2,491 Status: Offline     RE: OT: Kentucky players in the NBA playoffs    Posted: 5/19/2023 3:54:43 PM  It's a thing of beauty watching Jamal Murray shoot the basketball. Even his misses look good. Then, last night in the 4th, he practically couldn't miss. Unreal clutch performance by Murray late last night. Back to Top bornacatfan General User Member Since: 8/3/2006 Post Count: 5,706 Status: Offline     RE: OT: Kentucky players in the NBA playoffs    Posted: 5/28/2023 11:19:24 AM  Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote: Yep, don't think it's a coincidence that VCU, George Mason, Butler, Loyola Chicago, Wichita State, etc. all improved their standings substantially during the 1 and done era. Just curious. Is there a source you have available that shows the one and done's for those colleges you mentioned? Quick search is leaving me with no good resource or result. Just sitting here I can't think of who the one and dones for those schools would be. Probably my old mind.... never argue with idiots, they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. Winter comes and asks how you spent your summer..... The game loves and rewards those who love and reward the game Back to Top Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame General User Member Since: 7/30/2010 Post Count: 3,286 Status: Offline     RE: OT: Kentucky players in the NBA playoffs    Posted: 5/28/2023 6:50:43 PM  bornacatfan wrote: Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote: Yep, don't think it's a coincidence that VCU, George Mason, Butler, Loyola Chicago, Wichita State, etc. all improved their standings substantially during the 1 and done era. Just curious. Is there a source you have available that shows the one and done's for those colleges you mentioned? Quick search is leaving me with no good resource or result. Just sitting here I can't think of who the one and dones for those schools would be. Probably my old mind.... I don't think there are any (or at least, not many -- Gonzaga may have had one or two). The point I was trying to make is that mid-msjor programs benefited from continuity while blue blood programs leaned in heavily to one and dones. Back to Top bornacatfan General User Member Since: 8/3/2006 Post Count: 5,706 Status: Offline     RE: OT: Kentucky players in the NBA playoffs    Posted: 5/29/2023 9:01:00 AM  Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote: bornacatfan wrote: Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote: Yep, don't think it's a coincidence that VCU, George Mason, Butler, Loyola Chicago, Wichita State, etc. all improved their standings substantially during the 1 and done era. Just curious. Is there a source you have available that shows the one and done's for those colleges you mentioned? Quick search is leaving me with no good resource or result. Just sitting here I can't think of who the one and dones for those schools would be. Probably my old mind.... I don't think there are any (or at least, not many -- Gonzaga may have had one or two). The point I was trying to make is that mid-msjor programs benefited from continuity while blue blood programs leaned in heavily to one and dones. Ahhhh. That makes more sense. The current Mantra amongst college coaches in the NIL and Transfer Era is ... "Get old and stay Old"...I have heard several coaches ....Drew, Izzo and contemporaries repeating the thought. never argue with idiots, they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. Winter comes and asks how you spent your summer..... The game loves and rewards those who love and reward the game Back to Top GraffZ06 General User Member Since: 1/5/2005 Location: Dayton, OH Post Count: 1,913 Status: Offline     RE: OT: Kentucky players in the NBA playoffs    Posted: 5/30/2023 10:34:35 AM  bornacatfan wrote: Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote: bornacatfan wrote: Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote: Yep, don't think it's a coincidence that VCU, George Mason, Butler, Loyola Chicago, Wichita State, etc. all improved their standings substantially during the 1 and done era. Just curious. Is there a source you have available that shows the one and done's for those colleges you mentioned? Quick search is leaving me with no good resource or result. Just sitting here I can't think of who the one and dones for those schools would be. Probably my old mind.... I don't think there are any (or at least, not many -- Gonzaga may have had one or two). The point I was trying to make is that mid-msjor programs benefited from continuity while blue blood programs leaned in heavily to one and dones. Ahhhh. That makes more sense. The current Mantra amongst college coaches in the NIL and Transfer Era is ... "Get old and stay Old"...I have heard several coaches ....Drew, Izzo and contemporaries repeating the thought. So in essence - recruit the 1 and done's for "talent" and augment with age/experience/proven track records via the portal. Seems like a logical conclusion to marry talent and experience in an era of AAU free agency. Back to Top Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame General User Member Since: 7/30/2010 Post Count: 3,286 Status: Offline     RE: OT: Kentucky players in the NBA playoffs    Posted: 5/30/2023 2:08:35 PM  GraffZ06 wrote: bornacatfan wrote: Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote: bornacatfan wrote: Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame wrote: Yep, don't think it's a coincidence that VCU, George Mason, Butler, Loyola Chicago, Wichita State, etc. all improved their standings substantially during the 1 and done era. Just curious. Is there a source you have available that shows the one and done's for those colleges you mentioned? Quick search is leaving me with no good resource or result. Just sitting here I can't think of who the one and dones for those schools would be. Probably my old mind.... I don't think there are any (or at least, not many -- Gonzaga may have had one or two). The point I was trying to make is that mid-msjor programs benefited from continuity while blue blood programs leaned in heavily to one and dones. Ahhhh. That makes more sense. The current Mantra amongst college coaches in the NIL and Transfer Era is ... "Get old and stay Old"...I have heard several coaches ....Drew, Izzo and contemporaries repeating the thought. So in essence - recruit the 1 and done's for "talent" and augment with age/experience/proven track records via the portal. Seems like a logical conclusion to marry talent and experience in an era of AAU free agency. I'm not even sure the right playbook is to recruit the 1 and done's for talent. If you look at the last few NCAA champs -- Uconn, Kansas, Baylor, Virginia -- there isn't much NBA talent. Villanova in 2018 had two NBA talent leaders, but they were both Juniors. You have to go back to 2015 for an NCAA champion whose best players were 1 and Dones. I think the playbook is to try and recruit the best basketball players possible that don't have NBA upside. Back to Top giacomo General User Member Since: 11/20/2007 Post Count: 2,624 Status: Offline     RE: OT: Kentucky players in the NBA playoffs    Posted: 6/10/2023 8:19:54 AM  There is a guy from Wheeling Jesuit on the Heat. Back to Top Showing Replies:   1 - 13  of 13 Posts Jump to Page:   1 View Other 'Ohio Basketball' Topics                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               WHO'S ONLINE There are 216 Active Visitors on BobcatAttack.com 216 Guests 0 Registered Users There are no other users looking at this page.

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