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The Optimist
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   Posted: 3/10/2020 2:44:43 PM 
Kent has now cancelled classes. Seems like most universities are trending that direction.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Coronavirus and the conference tourneys?
   Posted: 3/10/2020 2:54:19 PM 
This is crazy, Berra College just cancelled classes
for the rest of the year. I understand from a management standpoint, they donít want the liability. If everyone got tested, we could find out who is swimming naked, quarantine and treat them and return to normal and it would have absolutely no election implications, but when you hide stuff and have a prideful and clueless leader not deferring to subject matter experts, panic ensues. This is in fellerville and it is a conservative Christian college, so we can use the liberal conspiracy theory. https://www.wdrb.com/news/berea-college-cancels-semester-...

Last Edited: 3/10/2020 2:56:03 PM by allen


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  Message Not Read  RE: Coronavirus and the conference tourneys?
   Posted: 3/10/2020 2:59:30 PM 
allen wrote:
I understand from a management standpoint, they donít want the liability.


I'm sure Jenny Hall-Jones is giddy right now awaiting the day she gets to tell student organizations not to meet because of coronavirus.


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   Posted: 3/10/2020 3:05:27 PM 
GoCats105 wrote:
allen wrote:
GoCats105 wrote:
Weird...fear mongering and panic because of a small threat disease during an election year. Where have I heard this before?



Itís a false flag, letís ignore it. The cdc just sent out new test and they are beautiful just like the transcript. Who cares if it spreads? I am going to wear gas mask on the senate floor and be a true lackey, oops I got quarantined.


I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. I just think it's funny that it's taking a widespread infectious virus to remind people to wash their freaking hands and not lick handrails on a stairwell.


Oh yeah, people forgot, thatís how 16 people died in a nursing home. Wash your hands and wait for that beautiful test, itís perfect, just like the transcript. As someone with a masters in emergency management, you wonít have certainty until the numbers plateau. The reason why universities are closing is because they donít want the liability and the facts on the ground are changing. They say that the virus can live on surfaces so they are disinfecting everything and the government is ordering close too 100 million masks from 3m, but telling the public masks are ineffective. One in seven Americans have underlying illnesses that combined with the corona virus could cause severe illness or death. Italy will be out of the woods in one month, just like China because they are ramping up quarantined and testing. China had 40 new cases yesterday, their numbers have plateaued, so no I am not being sarcastic.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Coronavirus and the conference tourneys?
   Posted: 3/10/2020 3:10:46 PM 
allen wrote:
This is in fellerville and it is a conservative Christian college, so we can use the liberal conspiracy theory. https://www.wdrb.com/news/berea-college-cancels-semester-...


Berea College is conservative? You might need to check your meds.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Coronavirus and the conference tourneys?
   Posted: 3/10/2020 3:23:11 PM 
Robert Fox wrote:
allen wrote:
This is in fellerville and it is a conservative Christian college, so we can use the liberal conspiracy theory. https://www.wdrb.com/news/berea-college-cancels-semester-...


Berea College is conservative? You might need to check your meds.


Yeah, big whiff there.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Coronavirus and the conference tourneys?
   Posted: 3/10/2020 3:31:29 PM 

Jake Trotter
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Am told MAC officials are discussing what to do about their conference hoops tournament later this week in Cleveland, in light of the Gov's statement. Expected to have a statement later today

https://twitter.com/Jake_Trotter/status/12374601944703057...


Also a reporter did ask DeWine to clarify his statement...

Adrienne Robbins
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Back to sports he says heís not issued an order to force teams to comply. He acknowledges this is a bad time with so many big events but ďwe canít hide this.Ē @nbc4i

https://twitter.com/ARobbinsTV/status/1237453413434175488...
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   Posted: 3/10/2020 3:32:25 PM 
Robert Fox wrote:
allen wrote:
This is in fellerville and it is a conservative Christian college, so we can use the liberal conspiracy theory. https://www.wdrb.com/news/berea-college-cancels-semester-...


Berea College is conservative? You might need to check your meds.


I shouldnít say conservative, it is a Christian school in a conservative state. I donít need meds, people with high IQís and EQís are closing their institutions, while lackeyís are claiming this is just a hoax and that this will all go away if we just wash our hands.


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Robert Fox
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   Posted: 3/10/2020 3:42:08 PM 
allen wrote:
...while lackeyís are claiming this is just a hoax and that this will all go away if we just wash our hands.


Is that happening? Who is saying that?
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   Posted: 3/10/2020 3:45:33 PM 
OHSAA now family only. What am I missing about all of this?


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  Message Not Read  RE: Coronavirus and the conference tourneys?
   Posted: 3/10/2020 3:46:38 PM 
Let's don't let this devolve into partisan politics, folks. Would hate to Siberia a good thread.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Coronavirus and the conference tourneys?
   Posted: 3/10/2020 3:52:32 PM 
Andrew Ruck wrote:
Robert Fox wrote:
allen wrote:
This is in fellerville and it is a conservative Christian college, so we can use the liberal conspiracy theory. https://www.wdrb.com/news/berea-college-cancels-semester-...


Berea College is conservative? You might need to check your meds.


Yeah, big whiff there.


Up until a few years ago, Berea was a real contrast in cultures. On one hand you have the typical liberalism of a liberal arts college (first college in the south to go coed and be racially mixed) while on the other hand, you couldn't get a drink in the Boone Tavern and jackets for men were required at dinner. It's a unique place that has provided the opportunity for a college degree to thousands who might not have otherwise had the chance.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Coronavirus and the conference tourneys?
   Posted: 3/10/2020 3:52:51 PM 
One alternative would be to have spectators into the arena only for those games involving the team they're cheering for. So instead of thousands you might have only hundreds (or in the NIU-Fiami case, tens) of fans in the stands for a given game. It would also make it easier for medical personnel to screen fans as they come into the arena. They usually screen by just taking temperatures anyway.

I'm watching the Summit Conf women's championship between S Dakota and S Dakota St from Sioux Falls. The place is packed for an early afternoon game. Of course, the Dakotas haven't had any Covid-19 cases yet.

Last Edited: 3/10/2020 3:54:05 PM by Pataskala


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  Message Not Read  RE: Coronavirus and the conference tourneys?
   Posted: 3/10/2020 3:58:36 PM 
Ted Thompson wrote:
OHSAA now family only. What am I missing about all of this?


You mean you're not understanding the overreaction either?
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  Message Not Read  RE: Coronavirus and the conference tourneys?
   Posted: 3/10/2020 3:59:27 PM 
Robert Fox wrote:
allen wrote:
This is in fellerville and it is a conservative Christian college, so we can use the liberal conspiracy theory. https://www.wdrb.com/news/berea-college-cancels-semester-...


Berea College is conservative? You might need to check your meds.


He talks about "medi's" all the time, which could lead us to think he's off his medi's more than he should be.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Coronavirus and the conference tourneys?
   Posted: 3/10/2020 4:10:45 PM 
Based on what Iíve been hearing, Ohio is expected to make an announcement at 5:00 today.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Coronavirus and the conference tourneys?
   Posted: 3/10/2020 4:20:06 PM 
Eagle66 wrote:
Jake Trotter
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Am told MAC officials are discussing what to do about their conference hoops tournament later this week in Cleveland, in light of the Gov's statement. Expected to have a statement later today

https://twitter.com/Jake_Trotter/status/12374601944703057...


Also a reporter did ask DeWine to clarify his statement...

Adrienne Robbins
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Back to sports he says heís not issued an order to force teams to comply. He acknowledges this is a bad time with so many big events but ďwe canít hide this.Ē @nbc4i

https://twitter.com/ARobbinsTV/status/1237453413434175488...


Dewine had to make a statement about all events, in light of the poor way they handled the Arnold last weekend. Arnold's execs heavily criticized the Ohio Dept of Health for singling out that event while other events like high school state championships and O$U b-ball were allowed to go on. Arnold's people are threatening to take their business elsewhere when their contracts with Columbus expire.


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   Posted: 3/10/2020 4:20:33 PM 
OU_Country wrote:
Robert Fox wrote:
allen wrote:
This is in fellerville and it is a conservative Christian college, so we can use the liberal conspiracy theory. https://www.wdrb.com/news/berea-college-cancels-semester-...


Berea College is conservative? You might need to check your meds.


He talks about "medi's" all the time, which could lead us to think he's off his medi's more than he should be.


Well letís see, who agrees with me? Ivy League Universityís, the largest university in the US, the numbers from countries that have seen their numbers start to plateau. The mediís and lackeys, they donít understand that pandemics can kill people. One in seven American adults could have to be hospitalized, this would effect general healthcare. The biggest problem is that kids and some young adults are asymptomatic so they could infect their parents and grandparents. Pandemics can kill our economy and they can kill our consumer sentiment. This week airlines have cut their capacities, they were hiring, now they are laying people off. Letís just look at some potential collateral damage. They could cancel their airplane orders which would lead to layoffs at various aerospace companies, (Boeing would probably be most affected). Letís say that the oil consumption continues to decrease, because people have to stay home. We will have to shut down rigs in the bakken and Permian basin that are not profitable when oil is under $45 per barrel, which will lead to huge layoffs in oil and oil services industry. Letís say companies that service the oil industry continue to decline, you could see huge commercial loan defaults. I have a uncle who worked at MIT and he might be smartest professor in the world and he has the record for working at MIT so I get this, the experts are surprised by my knowledge, just wash your hands and we will hold back testing until after the election and everything will be ok. The liberals are just too smart for their own good if we have thousands of deaths and a huge recession it will be because people didnít wash their hands.

Last Edited: 3/10/2020 4:32:38 PM by allen


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  Message Not Read  RE: Coronavirus and the conference tourneys?
   Posted: 3/10/2020 4:42:04 PM 
allen wrote:
OU_Country wrote:
Robert Fox wrote:
allen wrote:
This is in fellerville and it is a conservative Christian college, so we can use the liberal conspiracy theory. https://www.wdrb.com/news/berea-college-cancels-semester-...


Berea College is conservative? You might need to check your meds.


He talks about "medi's" all the time, which could lead us to think he's off his medi's more than he should be.


Well letís see, who agrees with me? Ivy League Universityís, the largest university in the US, the numbers from countries that have seen their numbers start to plateau. The mediís and lackeys, they donít understand that pandemics can kill people. One in seven American adults could have to be hospitalized, this would effect general healthcare. The biggest problem is that kids and some young adults are asymptomatic so they could infect their parents and grandparents. Pandemics can kill our economy and they can kill our consumer sentiment. This week airlines have cut their capacities, they were hiring, now they are laying people off. Letís just look at some potential collateral damage. They could cancel their airplane orders which would lead to layoffs at various aerospace companies, (Boeing would probably be most affected). Letís say that the oil consumption continues to decrease, because people have to stay home. We will have to shut down rigs in the bakken and Permian basin that are not profitable when oil is under $45 per barrel, which will lead to huge layoffs in oil and oil services industry. Letís say companies that service the oil industry continue to decline, you could see huge commercial loan defaults. I have a uncle who worked at MIT and he might be smartest professor in the world and he has the record for working at MIT so I get this, the experts are surprised by my knowledge, just wash your hands and we will hold back testing until after the election and everything will be ok. The liberals are just too smart for their own good if we have thousands of deaths and a huge recession it will be because people didnít wash their hands.


Your initial post, above, had NOTHING to do with the economy or the risks - you simply brought liberal politics into play. If you want to talk about politics, regardless of your opinion, take it somewhere else. 95% here aren't interested, and do not care about political views.

Also, talk like a grown up and quit using "medi's" and "lackeys" and whatever other goofy little words you make up. All you accomplish with that is to make yourself and your opinion look more ridiculous post by post.
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   Posted: 3/10/2020 4:48:45 PM 
OU just cancelled in-person instruction through March.

No word on the conference tournament yet.
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   Posted: 3/10/2020 4:53:57 PM 
They are encouraging students not to return from Spring Break, yet I'm sure they'll still charge them room & board.

Quite the racket Nellis and this administration are running.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Coronavirus and the conference tourneys?
   Posted: 3/10/2020 4:56:31 PM 
Allen, I think you be shocked at the numbers of other things that kill Americans in far larger numbers than the COVID 19 will. Not saying its serious, but while we lament its seriousness, we go on and eat fatty foods (me, gleefully so), drink and smoke, and die of other causes that we have the ability to avoid, die in outrageously large numbers. Heart disease for one.

Numbers are a funny thing. Last week a Harvard medical doctor said the numbers coming out of China have been overblown. While he said the initial numbers of those killed in China due to COVID 19 were indeed alarming, he said that we need to keep their numbers in context. He pointed out that China's population was so large, they average 25,000 deaths A DAY from other causes separate and apart from COVID 19!!
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   Posted: 3/10/2020 5:01:14 PM 
The Optimist wrote:
They are encouraging students not to return from Spring Break, yet I'm sure they'll still charge them room & board.

Quite the racket Nellis and this administration are running.


Weíre not even allowed in the dorms unless we file a request form with housing and residence life.
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   Posted: 3/10/2020 5:08:30 PM 
Mark Lembright '85 wrote:
Allen, I think you be shocked at the numbers of other things that kill Americans in far larger numbers than the COVID 19 will. Not saying its serious, but while we lament its seriousness, we go on and eat fatty foods (me, gleefully so), drink and smoke, and die of other causes that we have the ability to avoid, die in outrageously large numbers. Heart disease for one.

Numbers are a funny thing. Last week a Harvard medical doctor said the numbers coming out of China have been overblown. While he said the initial numbers of those killed in China due to COVID 19 were indeed alarming, he said that we need to keep their numbers in context. He pointed out that China's population was so large, they average 25,000 deaths A DAY from other causes separate and apart from COVID 19!!


Well yeah, 100% of people die. Of course other things are going to kill people better than Covid 19 does.

What's the threshold? How many deaths do you think warrants this response? I think we're damned if we do, very damned if we don't. So you err on the side of caution. Being wrong and doing nothing's a much worse outcome than being wrong and doing too much, right?

Last Edited: 3/10/2020 5:19:29 PM by Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame

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   Posted: 3/10/2020 5:14:43 PM 
Mark Lembright '85 wrote:
Allen, I think you be shocked at the numbers of other things that kill Americans in far larger numbers than the COVID 19 will. Not saying its serious, but while we lament its seriousness, we go on and eat fatty foods (me, gleefully so), drink and smoke, and die of other causes that we have the ability to avoid, die in outrageously large numbers. Heart disease for one.

Numbers are a funny thing. Last week a Harvard medical doctor said the numbers coming out of China have been overblown. While he said the initial numbers of those killed in China due to COVID 19 were indeed alarming, he said that we need to keep their numbers in context. He pointed out that China's population was so large, they average 25,000 deaths A DAY from other causes separate and apart from COVID 19!!


I agree about the other things that kill us. The problem is that this is an unknown virus and it is very infectious and can be asymptomatic for up to 5 days, so you are seeing colleges close their campuses because they donít want get people sick and be liable for any deaths. This is a public emergency that comes with a lot of uncertainty. There is community spread going on and nobody knows who is swimming naked because our preparation, mitigation and response efforts have been weak. Once we make about 10 million test and gather more data we can come to grips with what we are facing.
As far as China is concerned, if anything, China under reported their numbers to make themselves look better, thatís usually what authoritarian governments do. You make some very good points as far as the numbers, but that does nothing for public uncertainty. This could all blow over in a month if we do the right thing or we can deal with this for years. Gilead and Moderna will have vaccines available with in a year. The biggest thing will be restoring the public trust if Americans donít feel that it is safe to travel or gather. So now is not the time to minimize it and act like it doesnít exist, we need try our best to contain it. It doesnít help when you see all of Italy close down and see people in Europe getting tested in drive thru facilities, while we have 7 first responders in king county being told that the test that they took expired and that they have to remain in quarantine.


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