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Topic:  RE: AJ Gareri transferring
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  Message Not Read  RE: AJ Gareri transferring
   Posted: 5/16/2018 3:41:55 PM 
OU_Country wrote:
allen wrote:


I saw us go and get Diante flenorl and Sanjay Adell, who were top 150 players. I saw us get Gary Trent. We need to recruit better, period. I hope the new guys are good.


Times are at least a little different than 1996 or 1997 when those guys were recruited though. For starters, there are more schools at the D1 level than 20 years ago - how many more, I couldn't find in a quick search. Secondly, things change. That was the time frame when the MAC was probably at its basketball peak, getting a couple at-large bids around that time.


Youre both right in a way.

The MAC was at its apex in that time. As an undergrad, I watched not only Gary Trent, but Bonzi Wells, Earl Boykins, Antonio Daniels and others at the Convo. From 1995-1999, 10 guys from the MAC went on to play in the NBA. Since then, nine former MAC players have made the NBA. Its not a perfect barometer, but its telling.

That said, weve had a lot of players come in during the last few years who are not ready to play MAC basketball. Were getting passed by other MAC schools in terms of talent and until that changes, the malaise period for this program will continue.
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  Message Not Read  RE: AJ Gareri transferring
   Posted: 5/16/2018 5:03:39 PM 
Recovering Journalist wrote:
OU_Country wrote:
allen wrote:


I saw us go and get Diante flenorl and Sanjay Adell, who were top 150 players. I saw us get Gary Trent. We need to recruit better, period. I hope the new guys are good.


Times are at least a little different than 1996 or 1997 when those guys were recruited though. For starters, there are more schools at the D1 level than 20 years ago - how many more, I couldn't find in a quick search. Secondly, things change. That was the time frame when the MAC was probably at its basketball peak, getting a couple at-large bids around that time.


That said, weve had a lot of players come in during the last few years who are not ready to play MAC basketball. Were getting passed by other MAC schools in terms of talent and until that changes, the malaise period for this program will continue.


This...all of this ^^^^^. These facts are undeniable when it comes to the recruiting by this head coach. Never good when you recruit players who end up transferring to D2 programs.


#BleedGreen #TrentIsGOAT

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  Message Not Read  RE: AJ Gareri transferring
   Posted: 5/16/2018 9:43:37 PM 
FearLeon wrote:
Recovering Journalist wrote:
OU_Country wrote:
allen wrote:


I saw us go and get Diante flenorl and Sanjay Adell, who were top 150 players. I saw us get Gary Trent. We need to recruit better, period. I hope the new guys are good.


Times are at least a little different than 1996 or 1997 when those guys were recruited though. For starters, there are more schools at the D1 level than 20 years ago - how many more, I couldn't find in a quick search. Secondly, things change. That was the time frame when the MAC was probably at its basketball peak, getting a couple at-large bids around that time.


That said, weve had a lot of players come in during the last few years who are not ready to play MAC basketball. Were getting passed by other MAC schools in terms of talent and until that changes, the malaise period for this program will continue.


This...all of this ^^^^^. These facts are undeniable when it comes to the recruiting by this head coach. Never good when you recruit players who end up transferring to D2 programs.


True, but Kent State and Toledo offered him too, so Ohio wasn't the only school that thought highly of him. His injury probably had a big part in him not meeting his potential.
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  Message Not Read  RE: AJ Gareri transferring
   Posted: 5/16/2018 10:24:22 PM 
Who was the player we had a number of years ago who transferred to the University of Charleston (W.Va.)? Been wracking my brain, and I can't come up with the name.


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  Message Not Read  RE: AJ Gareri transferring
   Posted: 5/17/2018 5:33:17 AM 
I'm interested in seeing how AJ does compared to Newark's JT Shumate, another newcomer at Walsh.

I told JT this winter that I thought he could have gone bigger if he had waited until after his senior season and that I thought that he was under-recruited. Some on here think AJ was over-recruited, and I'm not sure I disagree. I will be interested in following these two now that they're on the same roster.

Last Edited: 5/17/2018 5:33:30 AM by bobcatsquared

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  Message Not Read  RE: AJ Gareri transferring
   Posted: 5/17/2018 10:13:07 AM 
Appears most , if not all, on this board felt AJ was a quality...even great signing.

Interesting to revisit - interesting nuggets including thoughts on Taylor and Block. Things change over the course of a year.

http://www.bobcatattack.com/messageboard/topic.asp?FromPa...

Last Edited: 5/17/2018 10:17:12 AM by cc-cat

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  Message Not Read  RE: AJ Gareri transferring
   Posted: 5/17/2018 12:39:08 PM 
Amazing how many experts, some paid and some not, could be so wrong.
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  Message Not Read  RE: AJ Gareri transferring
   Posted: 3/25/2020 7:53:16 PM 
bobcatsquared wrote:
I'm interested in seeing how AJ does compared to Newark's JT Shumate, another newcomer at Walsh.

I told JT this winter that I thought he could have gone bigger if he had waited until after his senior season and that I thought that he was under-recruited. Some on here think AJ was over-recruited, and I'm not sure I disagree. I will be interested in following these two now that they're on the same roster.



JT transferring to UT after averaging around 16 pts last 2 years at Walsh, hitting 40% from 3.

AJ Gareri, on the other hand, played only 1 game at Walsh this winter after sitting out last year.

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  Message Not Read  RE: AJ Gareri transferring
   Posted: 3/25/2020 8:49:22 PM 
I believe that both players just went to Walsh this last year. AJ was in the same class as Preston.

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