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Tecmo Bowl
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Phillip Bates role this year?

Posted: 7/18/2010 12:53:37 PM

Greetings all. Iowa State fan here looking to follow Phil's progress now that he's eligible to play for the Bobcats.

I'd heard a rumor that the staff still isn't sure if he can be a QB, or a WR at this time. Curious if anyone has any info on him, and which position he would have played during the spring game.

When he abruptly left Iowa state in 2008, it really hurt the team. Hoping he can be a valuable asset for the Bobcats moving forward. Bates big catch late in the game vs Iowa(2007) lead to the game winning field goal moments later. He's best remembered in Cyclone lore for that big play.

Bates was pretty raw as a throwing QB in 2008, but his running ability when he got in the open field was pretty amazing. I remember him tearing off a 50+ yard run early that year.

Last Edited: 7/18/2010 12:54:26 PM by Tecmo Bowl

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RE: Phillip Bates role this year?

Posted: 7/18/2010 2:12:23 PM

Welcome to our site!

Bates played QB in the spring game. Odds are that he will end up as the second string QB this fall, unless he has an amazing fall camp or #1 Boo Jackson becomes injured. Right now, I'm expecting to see a lot of Wildcat (or should we say Bobcat) formations with both Jackson and Bates on the field at the same time. In the spring game, in which Jackson couldn't play because he was rehabing from surgery, Bates was the best looking QB. But, Jackson was the QB in 2008, and looked very good, except for a lack of ball control when running (i.e., very untimely fumbles). A fumble late in the CMU game, for instance, cost us the win -- after a remarkable scramble in which he ran 50 or so yards to near the goal line he fumbled the ball on the one inch line trying to extend it over the goal line with one hand. If he had just fallen on the ball at the one, we would have had three tries to get into the end zone with the go-ahead TD. Jackson did not play last year due to injury and was given an extra year of eligibility. Most reports are that he's now nearly 100 percent. Personally, I've been very impressed with what I've seen of Bates, and reading into the remarks from the coaching staff about what an amazing athlete he is, I can't see him sitting on the bench for long periods of time. Also, this staff has always like to rotate in the second string QB on a few series each game -- and not just in trash time. I hope this information is helpful.

BTW, when Iowa State played here several years ago, and came home with a 3 point win, I thought your mascot "Cy the Cylone" was the best and most unique mascot that I've ever seen in person.

Last Edited: 7/18/2010 2:17:09 PM by OhioCatFan

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RE: Phillip Bates role this year?

Posted: 7/18/2010 2:12:40 PM

Bates always has been listed as a QB for Ohio. He was in line to probably start this year, but one of the senior QBs last year, Boo Jackson, got hurt early and got a redshirt year and he probably is the favorite to start this year.

Jackson was still out for the spring game, so Bates started for one team and went 9 of 17 for 115 yards and also rushed 7 times for 65 yards. It seemed he defintiely was a playmaker with his feet.

I have not heard of Bates playing anything but QB, but I would be surpised if he didn't have some kind of role on the team even if he is not the starting QB. I think he'll see time on the field one way or another, even if it is just coming in at spots at QB or every now and then at RB or WR.

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RE: Phillip Bates role this year?

Posted: 7/18/2010 2:31:28 PM

After talkkng to coacn Solich at a Caravan stop I would say Bates role is going to be tough to define based on his ability and the Bobcats need. His ability seems endless with experience at wide receiver and quarterback. Ohio has real depth at wide receiver but I can see him being lined up at receiver from time to time giving the Cats 2 quarterbacks on the field. Who knows though he could play in the red zone at qb or get a series or two. That being said I could also see him playing running back as well. From every report I have heard he has that type of athletic ability.
For sure it is going to be exciting and interesting to see just how much he is on the field and he gives the offensive coaches another weapon.

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RE: Phillip Bates role this year?

Posted: 7/18/2010 2:57:25 PM

As the others said, there is a returning Senior QB who holds quite a few Ohio passing records from his year as the starter in 2008, and he will probably start. I expect Ohio to put some teams away early, and Bates to play a fair amount. I expect Bates to play in the second quarter for a series or two in many games, to get used to playing with the first team, and Bates is expected to be the starting QB in 2011.

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RE: Phillip Bates role this year?

Posted: 7/18/2010 3:08:07 PM

Is Bates a senior this year, or was he able to use a redshirt year on the transfer? EDIT* looks like the poster above me answered this question while I was typing it out.

We never quite figured out if he got bad advice and therefore quit the team.....or had a rift with Chizik and didn't feel he was getting the opportunity he was promised in 2008. He split time with Arnaud the 1st four games that year...with Arnaud starting all 4 and getting the majority of series. Probabaly a 2-1 ratio for Arnaud during those 4 games.

Arnaud got injured in week 6 but still had to play through the injury for a 2-3 game stretch right after Bates left. Chizik didn't want to burn a redshirt QB if at all possible so Austen continued to play. Ironically Bates missed his opportunity to be the starter those weeks. Had he just stuck around another week.......

If Bates is unable to win the starting QB job, I hope he puts the team first and takes whatever role is given to him. Hes a great athlete and needs to be on the field somewhere even if its not at QB. I'll be following the Bobcats this year to monitor his progress.

Last Edited: 7/18/2010 3:09:28 PM by Tecmo Bowl

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RE: Phillip Bates role this year?

Posted: 7/18/2010 8:52:17 PM

Seems that Jackson should be getting the starting nod over Bates because he is more slotted at QB than anything else. Bates at least can play multiple positions on offense which is how he'll mainly get on the field in the fall.

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RE: Phillip Bates role this year?

Posted: 7/18/2010 8:53:32 PM

Bates seems to be fitting in with the team well and I don't get a sense of there being issues from him if he's not the starting QB this year. Here's a link with a video highlight of our QBs and he appears to be pretty loose and enjoying himself.

http://www.ohiobobcats.com/sports/m-footbl/ohio-m-footbl-body.html

Last Edited: 7/19/2010 10:04:31 AM by perimeterpost

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RE: Phillip Bates role this year?

Posted: 7/18/2010 11:19:06 PM

Phil is the type of talent that MUST be on the field as much as possible. I look for his role within the offense to evolve as the season progresses.

He and Boo (and Tyler) will push each other through camp, which is what we want. We have 3 guys who could potentially start AND win football games for us. Not a bad problem to have.

Anxious to see how some of the holes at RB will effect Phil's role in the offense. He's arguably the best athlete on the field when he is out there and would look at home wearing #5 in the offensive back field...

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RE: Phillip Bates role this year?

Posted: 7/19/2010 2:56:09 AM

Tecom I am from the mid-west also and have been watching Bates out of high school. Most people I know feel Bates was the BEST Q at I State when is was there.

There are no rumor about Bates playing other positions. He was NO# 1 in the spring.. He comp 61% of his passes this spring. Ran the ball very well, and was a very strong leader.

QUOTE TO NOTE

"He has all the physical tools to be a real weapon in the running game. Now, if we can get him to complete upwards of 60, 65 percent of his passes, well then he could be a real special player." -- Ohio coach Frank Solich on junior quarterback Phil Bates.

QB Phil Bates --
With senior quarterback Boo Jackson out all spring, Bates -- a junior -- showed he was capable of being the Bobcats' signal-caller. With terrific size at 6-2 and 224 pounds, Bates will be a weapon in Ohio's many option looks out of the "Pistol" formation. He also made huge strides this spring in his throwing accuracy.

He's very athletic -- another level," Albin said. "He's got a little more juice with his running speed."

Ohio placed four student-athletes on Steele’s honorable mention squad in quarterback Phil Bates, tight end Jordan Thompson, guard Eric Herman and safetySteven Jackson. Bates will see his first action in 2010 after sitting out his year in residency last season following his transfer from Iowa State.

I guess the others on the board don't seem to know what Ohio has right now, but they will soon know....Bates will be the starter...and rewrite the Ohio Record Books..Mac Champs...1th Bowl Win.

How does a kid who has not played in a year+ get HM from Phil Steele...Bates is the one to put Ohio into the TOP 25!!!!

Last Edited: 7/19/2010 3:01:48 AM by realone

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RE: Phillip Bates role this year?

Posted: 7/19/2010 12:54:36 PM

My guess is we will see alot of "Scott Mayle End Arounds" with Bates.

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RE: Phillip Bates role this year?

Posted: 7/19/2010 2:02:42 PM

Wouldn't be surprised if we saw Bate's lined up in the "Wildcat" short yardage situations, after all we are short on running backs, Solich will find a way to use Bate's talent that's for sure.

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RE: Phillip Bates role this year?

Posted: 7/19/2010 3:17:48 PM

realone wrote:

Ohio placed four student-athletes on Steele’s honorable mention squad in quarterback Phil Bates, tight end Jordan Thompson, guard Eric Herman and safety Steven Jackson. Bates will see his first action in 2010 after sitting out his year in residency last season following his transfer from Iowa State.

I guess the others on the board don't seem to know what Ohio has right now, but they will soon know....Bates will be the starter...and rewrite the Ohio Record Books..Mac Champs...1th Bowl Win.

I'm not surprised at all with Jordan Thompson being listed on here, not so much that he had ridiculous numbers last year, but came up big in the clutch in a couple games last year, most notably the dive to tip a ball away from being a sure interception against Northern Illinois. It came while we were down 24-28 with a little under 10 minutes left in the game.

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