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  Message Not Read  Yesterday Was A Reality Check For Our Fans
   Posted: 9/19/2010 9:17:08 AM 
It's unfortunate that it takes a blowout to whom some of you call our "rival" to realize it. If people didn't know our role and place in the college football world before yesterdays massacre, you do today. We looked like a MAC bottom feeder instead of a MAC East contender. To think that some of you thought we were a top-25 football team this year. The next Boise or TCU? Keep bringing those laughs.
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   Posted: 9/19/2010 10:24:52 AM 
stfu


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  Message Not Read  RE: Yesterday Was A Reality Check For Our Fans
   Posted: 9/19/2010 10:31:40 AM 
Ohio State is our rival. Before this game we played them close in the first two meetings and should have beaten them in 2008. The Ohio State players themselves were quoted saying as much.

As for this being a wake up call for the team and the fans about our strength this year, maybe so. Russ said it during the broadcast and I agree-- there are a lot of things we have to get fixed on offense regardless of the fact we were playing the number 2 team in the nation. I doubt many people on this board would disagree as far as that goes.
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   Posted: 9/19/2010 11:01:28 AM 
So if OSU were to beat Michigan this bad this year it would be a reality check for Michigan fans that OSU is no longer their rival?
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  Message Not Read  RE: Yesterday Was A Reality Check For Our Fans
   Posted: 9/19/2010 11:13:21 AM 
Monroe Slavin, CPA wrote:
stfu


What does 'stfu' stand for, Monroe? You come off as a very angry person on here. This really can't be you, can it?
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  Message Not Read  RE: Yesterday Was A Reality Check For Our Fans
   Posted: 9/19/2010 11:14:25 AM 
bobcatgrad wrote:
Ohio State is our rival.


In football? No, they really aren't.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Yesterday Was A Reality Check For Our Fans
   Posted: 9/19/2010 11:29:58 AM 
Your Name wrote:
bobcatgrad wrote:
Ohio State is our rival.


In football? No, they really aren't.


Why not? Are you going to give me a reason? And if you mean just because we got beaten soundly this game, then I don't think that is enough.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Yesterday Was A Reality Check For Our Fans
   Posted: 9/19/2010 12:28:56 PM 
Your  Name, why do you even post here? You clearly aren't even a fan of the bobcats. Why don't you stick to trolling over at buckeyeplanet?
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  Message Not Read  RE: Yesterday Was A Reality Check For Our Fans
   Posted: 9/19/2010 2:24:44 PM 
The delusion on this board is staggering

No you aren't our rival, you aren't even close to being our rival.  How about giving a reason why we should be rivals other then the fact we happen to be in the same state?

By that logic UCF is rivals with Florida, Rice is a rival with Texas etc etc

Michigan and Ohio State are rivals because they are 2 of the most successful football programs of all time that have consistently competed for Big Ten championships and have won National Championships.  OU is not anywhere close to being on the same level.

OSU has a 72% winning percentage all time, OU's is 49%, it's not close so just stop it.  It would be nice to root for fellow Ohio teams but it seems that every time one has a sliver of success they start to get obnoxious and a major inferiority complex shines through (See: Cincinnati)


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  Message Not Read  RE: Yesterday Was A Reality Check For Our Fans
   Posted: 9/19/2010 2:34:59 PM 
I have no idea if ou considers Ohio State their rival.  But Ohio State DOES NOT consider ou our rival.  I think it has to be a 2 way street with a true rivalry.

A rival is someone you can't wait to play, someone who you think about every year.  I have news for some of you.  The only time anyone from Ohio State...team, coaches, band, cheerleaders, fans, alum...even think about ou is the week before we play you.  Then the next time we think about ou will be the week before we play again..whenever that is.  That doesn't sound like a rivalry to me. 
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  Message Not Read  RE: Yesterday Was A Reality Check For Our Fans
   Posted: 9/19/2010 2:42:38 PM 
Pryor2Posey wrote:


It would be nice to root for fellow Ohio teams but it seems that every time one has a sliver of success they start to get obnoxious and a major inferiority complex shines through (See: Cincinnati)


You have absolutely no room to talk about other teams fans for being obnoxious.  95% of your bandwagon fans are obnoxious as hell. Most have no real connection to the Ohio State University other than the fact that they root for the football team. When they win, all is well.  But my god if they lose, it's like the end of the world.

Go troll on your own boards as you are acting like a disgrace to "your" school.


Rooting for Akron is like cheering on the Taliban.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Yesterday Was A Reality Check For Our Fans
   Posted: 9/19/2010 2:50:34 PM 
Jughead wrote:
Pryor2Posey wrote:


It would be nice to root for fellow Ohio teams but it seems that every time one has a sliver of success they start to get obnoxious and a major inferiority complex shines through (See: Cincinnati)


You have absolutely no room to talk about other teams fans for being obnoxious.  95% of your bandwagon fans are obnoxious as hell. Most have no real connection to the Ohio State University other than the fact that they root for the football team. When they win, all is well.  But my god if they lose, it's like the end of the world.

Go troll on your own boards as you are acting like a disgrace to "your" school.


It's your fan base on here bitching about a loss to a school that was favored by 30 points over them, trying to claim a rivalry with a school that's won over 300 more games then you.  It's good that you root for your own school,  obviously you should and I wouldn't defend any OU student that roots for any other school over OU without any sort of tie to said school. 

There's a difference though between being a fan and being delusional, which it appears a good number of posters here are.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Yesterday Was A Reality Check For Our Fans
   Posted: 9/19/2010 2:58:16 PM 
when you leave your garbage lying around you wind up with a pest problem. We start spouting off craziness about the Suckeyes and here come their fans trolling on our board. But that's not the real problem here, the real problem is that I'm agreeing with them, again. And that's the last thing I want to do.

Let's be real, a team we have played 6 times in the last 100+ years and have never beat is not a rival. It takes two to have a rivalry and like it or not, they don't look at us that way. A better way to describe it, would be to say that they are our nemesis. I hope we keep playing them, I believe if we do we'll eventually pull a Georgetown on them, and the $850K pays a lot of bills. Regardless, I still think everything about them sucks, and I laugh at their inability to integrate the word 'state' into their lexicon. Their arrogance makes me want to run headfirst into traffic. But in spite of all of that, it doesn't make them a rival.

Now if you'll excuse me, after agreeing with a buckeye fan for the second time today I need to go wash this horrible taste out of my mouth. dammit.


MY STATE. MY TEAM.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Yesterday Was A Reality Check For Our Fans
   Posted: 9/19/2010 3:08:50 PM 
Oh I don't deny the fact that those Bobcat diehard fans that think we are rivals in football is insane, hence the reason I copied just a short part of your post.  I also didn't expect this game to be close, hence the lack of complaining here. I also don't feel that it is necessary to call us (or any other university in Ohio for that matter) obnoxious for having confidence in our team's ability.


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   Posted: 9/19/2010 3:46:11 PM 
tbdbitl wrote:
I have no idea if ou considers Ohio State their rival.  But Ohio State DOES NOT consider ou our rival.  I think it has to be a 2 way street with a true rivalry.

A rival is someone you can't wait to play, someone who you think about every year.  I have news for some of you.  The only time anyone from Ohio State...team, coaches, band, cheerleaders, fans, alum...even think about ou is the week before we play you.  Then the next time we think about ou will be the week before we play again..whenever that is.  That doesn't sound like a rivalry to me. 


If that is the standard for a rivalry then Ohio State shouldn't be considered Michigan's rival, because most Michigan fans care as much or more about beating Notre Dame and Michigan State than Ohio State, and really don't think about the school down south much except during the week they play.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Yesterday Was A Reality Check For Our Fans
   Posted: 9/19/2010 3:47:08 PM 
Miami is our main rival in my mind. OSU in my opinion isn't a real rival right now. It's more like a team I'd love for Ohio to beat, whenever we end up playing. And even a love-to-hate team, and perhaps that may be interpreted as a rivalry. Who knows. I'm like the tbditl person, I try not to concern myself with OSU too much unless they're playing Ohio, or another MAC school (other than what I'm force-fed here in Columbus). Don't get me wrong, I'd love it if we could pull off a win one of these games. Then again, there isn't an 'official' rival, so it's tough to say some Bobcat fan that thinks OSU, or Marshall is incorrect.

In my mind, OSU is more like a bandwagon type team, that is very convenient for people to root for when they're doing well. If you see a lady sporting a #28 OSU jersey, it's probably a toss-up if they could tell you who wears/wore the #28, and when. Because OSU football is more of a social event than actual football fandom. And, I guess that is ok - because they get 100,000 sheep to pay $70 each week to watch them play. So more power to them. I equate OSU football to Yankees baseball. When they're on top, lots of people have a hat or shirt they pull out of the closet to wear, and be a 'fan' of. And after living in Columbus for the past 10 or so years, it seems that OSU fans probably concern themselves with #1 Michigan, #2 any SEC team, and #3 U Florida, in that order. Now which of those are 'rivalries', or just envy, I'll leave that up to discussion ;) Hopefully on a different forum that I do not read.

I may as well get my take on the game out of the way. Reality check? Absolutely. Team gut-check? Oh yeah. We showed we didn't have any business playing the #2 team yesterday. I was surprised/disappointed that we couldn't make it even a competitive game. Our play on many aspects of the game was suspect. Although, against that level of competition that we won't face the rest of the year, I'm not so sure. I'm more worried we stunk up the joint against Toledo. And I'm MORE concerned about how we'll respond to the Marshall rematch, and the remainder of our schedule.

A couple thoughts on the game. Prior is really improved from when we played him two years ago. Better decision making, although still had trouble with not throwing to wide open receivers(thankfully). Also, I was very happy that McCrae got a TD on a big stage. Although rendered nearly ineffective yesterday, I was happy that at least one of our receivers will have to put on a NFL resume vs OSU. I really think if our QB can get him the ball, or the line can get him enough time to get him the ball, that he could be our next NFL-er. The rest of the game didn't have very many take-aways for me. I was irritated with some of the defensive setup of our team, allowing OSU receivers to simply sit/stand wide open 10 yards downfield, but that seemed by design unfortunately.

The only other take-away from the game is that I should have brought sunscreen. Because while the Bobcats got smoked on-field, I got roasted in the stands. Should have wore the visor.

Ironic moment of the day: When the Ohio cheerleaders had the signs and were shouting LET'S-GO-OHIO. The crowd around the Ohio section started yelling 'STATE!'... Just maybe... They're learning... That they are not Ohio...

tbdbitl wrote:
The only time anyone from Ohio State...team, coaches, band, cheerleaders, fans, alum...even think about ou is the week before we play you.  Then the next time we think about ou will be the week before we play again.


Does that mean you'll be taking off from this forum soon?  It's no longer the week before, and you still seem to be thinking of Ohio... There must be something here, or you wouldn't be spending time on this, right?


That said, it's Marshall week. That's what matters now.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Yesterday Was A Reality Check For Our Fans
   Posted: 9/19/2010 3:47:33 PM 
Pryor2Posey wrote:
The delusion on this board is staggering

No you aren't our rival, you aren't even close to being our rival.  How about giving a reason why we should be rivals other then the fact we happen to be in the same state?



Ohio vs. Ohio State isn't a rivalry, it's oppression. They've stolen OUr name with callus disregard. They quell OUr aspirations with condescension. (Oh well how many national championships do you have?,  Oh we'll you couldn't get in here if you tried)

I completely understand why some up north (and unfortunately  some of OUr own) look at the Bobcat faithful as peons. We've had virtually no national success on the football field over the over the last 200 years, small schools national championship aside. The only time you hear about OHIO is for drinking. From the outside it would be easy to look at OHIO in this way, "Well if all they do is drink, they probably don't study. If they don't study and they still graduate it must be a bad school. Why would I want to go to a bad school if they aren't even good at sports?"  

Ohio State stands in OUr way. They keep us from OUr pursuit of happiness. I look at this "rivalry" like the French Revolution. The aristocrats weren't threatened by the poor, you could hardly call it a rivalry. However the poor (with some outside help) worked for nothing less than the removal of the longstanding privileges of the upper class. I'm not promising an upheaval of football and academic order in the state off Ohio, I'm stating that this CAN be a one way rivalry for lack of a better word, depending on who you ask.

I hate Ohio State. I would venture to say that I hate Ohio State more than most Buckeye alumn's hate Michigan. My hate has a purpose. I want OUr name back. I want to get rid of Script Ohio. I dream of the day we are viewed as equals to Ohio State.

What does Ohio State stand to win in victories against Michigan in non-national championship years? Just one win for OU  over OSU in football can do so much. Ohio is so far down the totem poll right now that a win against Ohio State in women's field hockey would be a moral booster for the die-hards at OHIO. I know I'm on the extreme end but I look at competing with Ohio State as a 365 day battle. From the classroom to the field I want to be better.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Yesterday Was A Reality Check For Our Fans
   Posted: 9/19/2010 3:48:47 PM 
Pryor2Posey wrote:
The delusion on this board is staggering

No you aren't our rival, you aren't even close to being our rival.  How about giving a reason why we should be rivals other then the fact we happen to be in the same state?

By that logic UCF is rivals with Florida, Rice is a rival with Texas etc etc

Michigan and Ohio State are rivals because they are 2 of the most successful football programs of all time that have consistently competed for Big Ten championships and have won National Championships.  OU is not anywhere close to being on the same level.

OSU has a 72% winning percentage all time, OU's is 49%, it's not close so just stop it.  It would be nice to root for fellow Ohio teams but it seems that every time one has a sliver of success they start to get obnoxious and a major inferiority complex shines through (See: Cincinnati)



#1 there is some merit to that. However, to be so deliberately dismissive is kinda stupid. the schools are 70 miles apart, both play D1. The lack of rivalry in football is our own fault due to the numbers you cite above. However, our students know your students, our football players know your players, people travel freely between and party on each other's campuses. undergrads at one go to grad school at the other, and frankly, if osu wasn't at least a sliver paranoid, they wouldn't have filed that ridiculous lawsuit in the late 90s.

#2 buckeye fan does not get to call anyone else obnoxious. You're simply not allowed.

#3 I think my favorite thing about buckeye fan is how he thinks anyone who doesn't kiss buckeye ass has a complex. Frankly, that's a complex in and of itself. See Pot & Kettle. So don't come on our board and be a *u*ktard and call us delusional because we thought we had a chance yesterday. You have a great team this year, enjoy it, and good luck in all the rest of your games except all the rest of your games.

Last Edited: 9/19/2010 3:49:41 PM by Deciduous Forest Cat

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   Posted: 9/19/2010 4:25:36 PM 
The only time anyone from Ohio State...team, coaches, band, cheerleaders, fans, alum...even think about ou is the week before we play you.  



The only time we think about OSU is when you and trolls like P2P bring your innane babble over here.....stuff like most of the fans here are delusional......proves you guys are either true trolls or can't read.

The goods news is that you're off of the schedule and I'll root for Wisconsin when they beat your arse.

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   Posted: 9/19/2010 4:31:47 PM 
I also find it incredibly amusing that fans of a school that considers itself a legitimate national championship contender when its team would be lucky to finish 6-2 in the SEC, are calling us delusional. 
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   Posted: 9/19/2010 5:27:25 PM 
bobcatgrad wrote:

Why not? Are you going to give me a reason? And if you mean just because we got beaten soundly this game, then I don't think that is enough.


Why are we not Ohio State's rival? For one, we don't compete on the same stage as them. They are playing for BCS games. We play for 4th and 5th tier bowl games. They recruit top level players out of high school (please keep Cardale Jones out of this scenario, he is going to the Big Ten or SEC). We accept cast offs from other BCS schools, go ape$h!t over those pick ups, then proceed to be underwhelmed. We don't play them on a regular basis for it to even have the makings of a rivalry. We have finally made it onto OSU's out of conference schedule the past few seasons. I would love for us to continue to make trips to Ohio Stadium every few years. The problem is that after yesterday's debacle, do you and our other fanatics want to make that walk of shame again?
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   Posted: 9/19/2010 5:30:49 PM 
bigtillyoopsupsideurhead wrote:
Your  Name, why do you even post here? You clearly aren't even a fan of the bobcats. Why don't you stick to trolling over at buckeyeplanet?


I was dressed from head to toe in green yesterday. I supported and rooted for the Cats to win. I will continue to root for the Cats but will also root for Ohio State to reach and win the BCS championship game. That's a lot better scenario than a good portion of our alumni that were wearing scarlet and gray yesterday AND rooting for Ohio State to win.

By the way, were you able to successfully find your seat view prior to the game? Sounds like my step by step retard proof instructions were too complicated for you. Best of luck luck getting that square peg into the circular hole.
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   Posted: 9/19/2010 5:50:29 PM 
I haven't once been insulting to anyone...in fact, the opposite is true, yet I get stones thrown at me.  To the person who said m*ch*g*n cares more about msu or nd...you couldn't be more wrong.

To the person who said Ohio State would finish 6-2 in the sec...it's impossible to prove.  I think some years you are correct, but disagree about this year.  I think the sec is down a bit.... just my opinion.

To mcbin... touche'...you made a good point.  I know that you all are po'ed because of the big lose.  I am an Ohio State alum and I would feel the same way.  I truly do wish you good luck and will be cheering for ou to whip up on marshall.

Seriously...good luck with the rest of the season. 
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   Posted: 9/19/2010 5:53:27 PM 
Frankly I’m surprised this conversation is going on. Is OSU our rival in football? Of course not. We’ve never beaten them. I'll go a step further and say that not more than 10 football programs in the country are strong enough to rival Ohio State.

I’m most surprised about the envy of Ohio State by many of our fans. Sure OSU has institutional arrogance, which from time to time gets under my skin, but the hatred has gone over the top. We, meaning 95% of the people on this board, CHOSE to go to Ohio University INSTEAD of Ohio State University (when most of us went to college our admission standards were higher than OSU’s). And we certainly didn’t make that decision because of the football team. THERE ARE 100 DIFFERENT WAYS THAT OHIO IS BETTER THAN OHIO STATE. From the beauty of our campus to the multitude of educational programs that are superior (and yes, in multiple areas they have stronger programs, too), because we didn’t want to be one of 60,000, because of Court Street, or Halloween, or beautiful sorority girls, the 110, or party school, journalism school, or avionics rankings, or because of a true college town too far from cities for students to disappear for the weekends.

Did I root for Ohio yesterday? Absolutely. On High Street wearing Green & White. Was I proud of Ohio for almost pulling it off two years ago? You bet. Will I root for Ohio next time they play? Without a doubt. Do I hope that next time we play the groundwork will have been laid for our program to be one of the best non-BCS teams in the country? I not only hope so, but think it’s quite possible.

Thank you to the players who fought for Ohio’s first and finest university yesterday and left their blood and sweat on the field in Columbus. Your hard work is building a program that one day will be able to consider itself a rival of BCS programs. As frustrated as you and many of us are, look at where we’ve come in recent years (yes, with some setbacks along the way). This is not the Ohio program of the 80s and mid 90s. We’ve beaten Hawaii, Maryland, Minnesota, Kentucky, and Pittsburgh. We came within fluke plays of beating Kansas State and North Carolina State. We’ve been competitive with Ohio State and Tennessee, two of the top programs all time. And we’ve gone to as many bowl games in the past 4 years as we have, probably, in all of our previous history. (And for those who are keeping track, if it were legal to go to two bowl games a year Ohio State could do all of these things in one year).

Do things need to happen for us to get stronger? Yes. Should we improve our schedule? In my opinion, yes (more of teams like Indiana, Kentucky, Maryland, Illinois, Northwestern, West Virginia, Purdue, Minnesota. Heck, even give me Notre Dame once in a while).  Does the MAC need to be thinned out a bit? I think it would help. Too many teams are diluting the talent pool by competing for the same players in the same region for any of the teams to be a consistent challenge to top tier BCS teams. I know it’s dangerous to throw stones from glass houses, but I think Ohio is in a better position to survive that process than many of our MAC brethren.

So, let’s continue to build our football program and get our already successful basketball program to the next level. But let’s also remember that OHIO UNIVERSITY PRIDE IS ABOUT MORE THAN A FOOTBALL GAME AGAINST OSU. We came to Athens because we wanted to be here. We chose to wear green and white instead of scarlet and gray. So be proud. (& for all of the Ohio students wearing scarlet and gray this weekend---have some pride in yourselves, because that’s essentially who you just rooted against)

 And yes, I’ll be rooting for Ohio State to bring the national championship to the state of Ohio.

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   Posted: 9/19/2010 6:12:07 PM 
tbdbitl wrote:
To the person who said m*ch*g*n cares more about msu or nd...you couldn't be more wrong.


I'm sorry, but you're wrong.  I went to Michigan for grad school.  OSU is a big game due to the tradition and because (until recently) it usually decided the Big 10 championship.  But the ND and MSU rivalries are just as big.  ND is as much of an academic as an athletic rivalry, and MSU is in-state.  Maybe you could argue that MSU isn't that big a game because Michigan has traditionally been so dominant, but those games both mean a lot to most Michigan fans, as much as OSU.

tbdbitl wrote:
To the person who said Ohio State would finish 6-2 in the sec...it's impossible to prove.  I think some years you are correct, but disagree about this year.  I think the sec is down a bit.... just my opinion.


I said it, and will admit that OSU could potentially do better than 6-2 if it got a favorable schedule.  But OSU would lose at Florida and Arkansas this year, and could very well lose at LSU or South Carolina as well.  Alabama would win in Columbus or Tuscaloosa. 
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