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Tim Burke
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  Message Not Read  Stength and Conditioning
   Posted: 9/27/2010 3:56:57 PM 
I  gave up on a lot of you when you all said "OUR STRENGTH AND CONDITIONING PROGRAM IS NOT THE PROBLEM" without making an actual argument. .

When will you admit I was right all along? 


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colobobcat66
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  Message Not Read  RE: Stength and Conditioning
   Posted: 9/27/2010 5:18:43 PM 
I'm not sure how you can prove that you are right.  Strength and conditioning programs have improved under Solich by all accounts that I have seen.

If the occurence of injuries is dicated soley by the stautus of a strength and conditioning program, perhaps you ought to question the following programs who have injuries reported on USA Today-Miami - 11, Pittsburgh-9, Ohio State 6, NC State-10, Michigan-9, Cincy-8, Fla State -8, Illinois-8, Maryland 9, etc.

Injuries happen in football.  Tim-please show that the injuries-year in and year out are statistically higher at Ohio than teams in general.  Then, we can start the blame game.
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John C. Wanamaker
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  Message Not Read  RE: Stength and Conditioning
   Posted: 9/27/2010 5:46:57 PM 
colobobcat66 wrote:
I'm not sure how you can prove that you are right.  Strength and conditioning programs have improved under Solich by all accounts that I have seen.

If the occurence of injuries is dicated soley by the stautus of a strength and conditioning program, perhaps you ought to question the following programs who have injuries reported on USA Today-Miami - 11, Pittsburgh-9, Ohio State 6, NC State-10, Michigan-9, Cincy-8, Fla State -8, Illinois-8, Maryland 9, etc.

Injuries happen in football.  Tim-please show that the injuries-year in and year out are statistically higher at Ohio than teams in general.  Then, we can start the blame game.


He's got a boat load of statistics and probabilities he is ready to spring on us.


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colobobcat66
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  Message Not Read  RE: Stength and Conditioning
   Posted: 9/27/2010 6:01:44 PM 
John C. Wanamaker wrote:
colobobcat66 wrote:
I'm not sure how you can prove that you are right.  Strength and conditioning programs have improved under Solich by all accounts that I have seen.

If the occurence of injuries is dicated soley by the stautus of a strength and conditioning program, perhaps you ought to question the following programs who have injuries reported on USA Today-Miami - 11, Pittsburgh-9, Ohio State 6, NC State-10, Michigan-9, Cincy-8, Fla State -8, Illinois-8, Maryland 9, etc.

Injuries happen in football.  Tim-please show that the injuries-year in and year out are statistically higher at Ohio than teams in general.  Then, we can start the blame game.


He's got a boat load of statistics and probabilities he is ready to spring on us.


I'm sure he has them.  I'm excited to get educated by the master of stats.
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colobobcat66
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  Message Not Read  RE: Stength and Conditioning
   Posted: 9/27/2010 6:04:51 PM 
The more I think about this, the more I wonder why NFL teams ever have an injury since they have such great strength and conditioning programs.
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Football Jim
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  Message Not Read  RE: Stength and Conditioning
   Posted: 9/27/2010 9:10:29 PM 
Solich was right in the middle of the modern strenth and fitness development from the early days. He most likely is staying very current. I would have to say that the average MAC player is a few pounds lighter and a few degrees "weaker" than the average BCS player. While MAC, C-USA and Sunbelt send their squads on suicide missions to earn the atheletic dept, some cash by playing bigger and stronger squads they incur many injuries.

It seems the non BCS squads that escape the early season with the fewest injuries seem to win their divisions.


Hanging in there!

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colobobcat66
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  Message Not Read  RE: Stength and Conditioning
   Posted: 9/27/2010 9:26:45 PM 
Football Jim wrote:
Solich was right in the middle of the modern strenth and fitness development from the early days. He most likely is staying very current. I would have to say that the average MAC player is a few pounds lighter and a few degrees "weaker" than the average BCS player. While MAC, C-USA and Sunbelt send their squads on suicide missions to earn the atheletic dept, some cash by playing bigger and stronger squads they incur many injuries.

It seems the non BCS squads that escape the early season with the fewest injuries seem to win their divisions.

That may be right, but Keller and Brazil were injured before they played their first game this year, not sur ethis is germane to the subject at hand.
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Cat4ever
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  Message Not Read  RE: Stength and Conditioning
   Posted: 9/27/2010 9:32:11 PM 
colobobcat66 wrote:
Injuries happen in football.


...And with that, can we hear an "Amen" to this discussion and move on to something else?


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If this statement is true, it is also false.
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Bobcat Grad 86
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  Message Not Read  RE: Stength and Conditioning
   Posted: 9/27/2010 9:43:18 PM 
Bo Jackson must have been a real "slacker" when it came to conditioning since his career was basically ended on this play.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Stength and Conditioning
   Posted: 9/27/2010 9:49:46 PM 
Good Lord, this thread again? Has it not been explained to the career college student that injuries occur at every collegiate program? The difference is that top programs can handle injuries because they have better depth compared to the Sun Belts and MACs of the world.
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Monroe Slavin
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  Message Not Read  RE: Stength and Conditioning
   Posted: 9/28/2010 2:00:35 AM 

We seem to have an inordinate amount of injuries to key players most years.

Deal with it.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Stength and Conditioning
   Posted: 9/28/2010 8:35:50 AM 
There was an obvious drop-off in line strength after Ethan Reeve left.  It hasn't gotten any better.  Plus, the multiple "cramping" episodes were inexcusable. Sonny Sano must have pictures of somebody.




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bobcat695
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  Message Not Read  RE: Stength and Conditioning
   Posted: 9/28/2010 8:50:08 AM 
I don't know anything about strength and conditioning, but we do not appear to have dominant players up front.  Most injuries are not avoidable, but the cramping issue is strange.  A few years ago, a guy named Al Johnson was the head of S & C for OSU.  He has also worked with many pro athletes and came back to his hometown of Parkersburg, WV to open a sports training clinic.  He has a wonderful reputation in that circle.  I would be curious if he might be a good consultant for OU to look at to enhance the program if SBH is right and pictures exist .  He has had proven success across many sports, but is most know for college football work. 


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John C. Wanamaker
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  Message Not Read  RE: Stength and Conditioning
   Posted: 9/28/2010 9:03:13 AM 
Al Johnson is the king of off the wall lifts and training exercise, known to be well liked by his athletes.


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