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Bobcat Love
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the LOVE finds this laughable.....

Posted: 10/31/2010 2:20:27 AM

First off...I like Coach Solich and what he's done at Ohio.

Second, we are a complete and utter punchline right now in my opinion.

This was a HORRIBLE Louisiana Lafayette team. Downright horrible and we let them hang around for about 58 minutes....with a backup QB!!

We've beaten nobody this year. We got housed by Ohio State. Lost to a bad Toledo team and to a downtrodden Marshall squad.

How can everyone be so giddy that we are going bowling.

There were about 300 students there today!!! If we have to keep playing garbage OOC opponents to become bowl eligible and draw 300 students....I'm out. No more. I quit.

In all seriousness, Solich is doing himself a dis-service by scheduling these teams to come into Peden. He's doing great with our teams as we get deeper into the year, and putting Louisiana Lafayette on the schedule just set us back several weeks.

Forget the argument that it was Halloween and no students would show up. Put Purdue on the opposite sideline and the place would have been jammed.

If Schaus and Solich want to continue to play this "we'll get to 6 wins againnst horseshit competition" game...then so be it...but it's embarrassing to Ohio...and it's embarrassing to me as an alum. I just don't understand why you wouldn't challenge yourself to be the best you can be against the best competition.

Instead we are going to get bombarded with emails and websites about being bowl eligible and how important Thursday (and probably the MAC Championship) is.....only to be rewarded with a trip to somewhere like Boise against a weird opponent like Temple.....then we'll get an even worse non conference home schedule next year.

This cycle sucks and I was miserable watching it run its course today at Peden. Empty stadium, no fans, and questionable football.

Please someone...anyone....expect more from Solich and Schaus. This can't continue. I can't watch it anymore.

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RE: the LOVE finds this laughable.....

Posted: 10/31/2010 8:57:34 AM

Maybe the students were participating in what they thought was a sanctioned "BobcatLove No Show/Walkout" to protost the lousy non-conference schedule?

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RE: the LOVE finds this laughable.....

Posted: 10/31/2010 9:16:35 AM

I think they could have brought in the 86 Bears and making students go to an event that breaks up the three day bender that they wait all year for is going to be pretty tough. I get your point about it being ULL and a non-conference game makes it worse but you can't have a game at home on this weekend and expect a great crowd. I would guess 70% of students that would have gone are babysitting kids from Akron and Toledo and Wright State or wherever who show up on their dooorsteps ready to party because their own campuses are so miserable that they have to get their year of partying into one weekend.
That being said I understand your frustration as a whole but Halloween weekend should never appear on the schedule.

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RE: the LOVE finds this laughable.....

Posted: 10/31/2010 9:46:18 AM

After having some time since yesterday to reflect on the matter, I will start by stating that the Administration should seriously look at not scheduling anything family oriented on this weekend. Now let me explain what I mean.

I arrived yesterday in Athens around noon and had a nice meal with my sons and their invited guests. We then proceeded uptown to hit the bookstores and walk around. We walked through the Main Green and I want to thank the administration for putting-on the condom display/demonstration at the Main Gate. Not only was it informative but the graphic show was excellant. I know all about free speech/etc. but did that need to be presented at the corner of Court Street at 1:00 p.m. at the Main Gate to the Campus on Game Day?

I should have realized something was wrong earlier this week when I phone the "front office" and was awarded with great seats on the Tower side of the stadium at the Fifty yard line on the isle about 9 rows up? When we actually took our seats with about 20 minutes to spare before kick-off and no one and I mean no one was sitting any where near us, that should have been my second clue. Well in to the first quarter and still no one around us should have been my third clue.

I also want to thank and compliment the coed who decided to dress up as a school girl complete with plaid skirt, thigh high stockings and blouse unbuttoned to her navel for making my kids day at the stadium. I also want to thank the coed over around the South Green who was very well endowed and who had her blouse basically wide open. My kids and I really needed to see the clevage. And finally, to the prostitute on the side street doing the parking near Stimson Avenue, nice touch.

I have been following the Cats since the 60's. In watching the game, at one point I thought I was in some type of time wrap from the 70's with the noise level/crowd. What a joke! Actually, given those and the level of play/visiting team I at one point thought perhaps I had been transported to a time when Coach Lichtenberg was OUr coach.

In short, what a terrible experience all the way around. I realize that Halloween can not be stopped. But, try not to schedule another home event that weekend in the future. Perhaps one reason for so poor attendance was that the locals realized what it would be like in Athens this weekend. It have been approximately 30+ years since I had spent Halloween in Athens. Based upon yesterday's experience, my kids may very well not be attending OUr institution in the future.

Sorry!

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RE: the LOVE finds this laughable.....

Posted: 10/31/2010 10:25:35 AM

ou79 wrote:

I also want to thank and compliment the coed who decided to dress up as a school girl complete with plaid skirt, thigh high stockings and blouse unbuttoned to her navel for making my kids day at the stadium. I also want to thank the coed over around the South Green who was very well endowed and who had her blouse basically wide open. My kids and I really needed to see the clevage. And finally, to the prostitute on the side street doing the parking near Stimson Avenue, nice touch.!

I'm sorry, you don't strike me as someone who attended Ohio University. You sound more like a Miami grad.

Lighten up, man.

Ohio '99 EMU '00 USF '08(?)

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RE: the LOVE finds this laughable.....

Posted: 10/31/2010 11:08:25 AM

I was with you up until complaining about costumes. Sometimes the things presented on campus aren't things we would necessarily bring up to our younger ones. I think it was worth a try to do a halloween home game. I wouldn't do it again.

They haven't been called "coed"s since the 70's.

And if you do send your kids somewhere else, say Cincinnati, Ohio State, Akron or Marshall, that darn well might be a real prostitute on the side street.

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RE: the LOVE finds this laughable.....

Posted: 10/31/2010 11:19:51 AM

Love, after a game that we barely won you're still arguing that we're too good for lousy Sun Belt competition? That borders on delusional. Are you still fantasizing about us as Duke hosting Alabama? The score of that game was 62-13. Closer to home, check out this year's excellent results of Toledo hosting Arizona, and Akron hosting Syracuse. I'm sure those games did a lot to build those programs.

The casual fan is indeed much more excited to face a BCS school. The casual fan base is also the first to declare how our football program sucks after, say, a 62-13 shellacking at home.

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RE: the LOVE finds this laughable.....

Posted: 10/31/2010 11:21:09 AM

Ohio isn't one of the top party schools in the nation for nothing. I figured you would know that since you went there. May I suggest a small Christian college for your kids. Possibly Liberty or David Lipscomb?

//your kids see way more edgy stuff on tv

Last Edited: 10/31/2010 11:21:56 AM by EastTennesseeBobcat

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RE: the LOVE finds this laughable.....

Posted: 10/31/2010 11:42:42 AM

I agree that scheduling a home game on Halloween is a bad idea...unless the debauchery is fully embraced. And that would make for an even worse family experience.

as for whining about this year's schedule, 9 games into it- child please. stop already.

Here's the Suckeye's OOC this year- OHIO, Marshall, E. Michigan, U. Miami.
And here's ours- Cajuns, Marshall, Wofford, OSU.

We both played Marshall so those cancel out, a 7-1 Wofford is tougher than a 1-7 E Michigan, #2 OSU away is tougher than #12 Miami at home, and the Cajuns and us are roughly the same, we being a little tougher.

But overall our OOC is tougher than theirs, and when you consider they are are so much better than us, ours is even more difficult, comparatively speaking. They also play 8 home games and never play more than 1 road game in a row while we only play 6 home games and play up to 3 road games in a row.

Now let's look at Boise State, a team that needs to schedule the toughest OOC possible.
Boise's OOC- Wyoming, Toledo, VTech, Oregon State.

Wyoming is on par with the Cajuns, Toledo is on par with Marshall, Suckeyes are a little better than Vtech, and the Beavers are a lot better than Wofford. and BTW, only Toledo and Beavers were at home. I can only imagine what "Bronco Love" sounds like on their boards- "We're playing Toledo at home?? Are you kidding me. I'm walking out..what's the point?!" We'll never be national champs with Toledo and Wyoming on the OOC, blah blah blah.."

An annual BCS powerhouse like OSU plays basically the same OOC as us and a non BCS powerhouse in a weak conference who is looking for respect by playing a tougher OOC plays 3 of 4 OOC teams comparable to ours.

So...If we swapped out Wofford with Nevada we'd have the same OOC as Boise and a tougher OOC than OSU. If we did that, THEN would you be satisfied? Of course not. because anything less than Bama, Oregon, Florida and Auburn, all in Peden, is a failure.

We don't need a new OOC we need a new conference. And that's not going to happen anytime soon so whats the point to all of this complaining about being 6-3 and tied for 1st in our conference?

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RE: the LOVE finds this laughable.....

Posted: 10/31/2010 11:50:17 AM

Love, Purdue? Purdue, are you serious? Notre Dame maybe,(may not be so farfetched as they appear to be dumbing down their home scheduling to get to 6 wins to be bowl eligible with such powerhouses as West. Mich and Tulsa with less than stellar results, maybe they will do a road trip to Athens) but I digress.
We're a National punchline when it comes to football? Really? Question, on the National scene is OHIO better known for:
a. It's football program
b. It's Halloween Party
Point, we are an afterthought on the National scene for our storied football program as is ALL other MAC schools. I was just in Miami for their "Homecoming" game and let's just say I didn't have to secure tickets on StubHub. So much for them landing those "quality" name opponents such as SEC powerhouse Vanderbilt or Big 12 Champion caliber soon to be Pac 10 Colorado, for laying the foundation to standing room only soldout home crowds.
Purdue? I remember just a few scant years ago being in Peden for the Minnesota game, a Minn. team that featured 2 NFL caliber running backs and was just as worthy a Big 10 opponent as Purdue certainly and yet a packed house it wasn't! Or UConn, a very formidible Big East team with an "it" coach who had just put a couple of kids in the NFL as First rounders, just two years ago played on a Friday nite "move in" weekend with ESPN television coverage(similar conditions to the storied Pitt game) and the "crowd" had to be bouyed by $5 ticket bargains and it was "High School Band Night" which filled a couple of sections of the student side. Purdue would have backed the place though, yea right.
Love, I started this journey in the Glory Year, 1968. We were "undefeated, Nationally Ranked and we played in which Florida Bowl:
a. Orange
b. Gator
c. Tangerine
Obviously the answer is C a bowl which no longer exists against an opponent that no longer plays in the Big Boy Division. My point, that prior to the BCS, ESPN, Big Ten Networks, etc., the MAC still played in the Ugly Stepsister Bowls and the only thing that has changed since that time is that tons of insignificant bowls have been added to allow yet more MAC teams play in Ugly Stepsister Bowls. In spite of this the "system" is substantially stacked against the MAC caliber conferences as I think any rational human being would have a hard time making a case that we are competing against , oh say Ohio State, on anything resembling a level playing field and we NEVER will, all the OSWho shirts be damned.
Also, don't count me in the "giddy" camp when it comes to being "bowl eligible". I'm in the camp that there are too many bowls and it plays to the detriment of programs such as ours that are "rewarded" with a bowl trip playing for Pizza and if we win we get to add peperoni. I can't imagine the "fruits" of our reward if we find ourselves in Idaho this bowl season. We will probably have to pay for the eggs, but the "Idaho Potato Home Fries" will be all you can eat. Point, our "success" contributes to our "demise" as we LOSE money which we don't have going to bowls that have "negative" payouts.
We're the MAC and as Dennis Green said: We are who we thought we would be! It really makes not a whit of a difference whether it's the Ragin Cajuns or the powerhouse Iowa State Cyclones. We'll still be the MAC. Oh, yea we need to get out - right- how's that appear to be working out for a Love favorite whipping boy Marshall?
To end this rather insignificantly long meadering apistle, scheduling ANY game in Athens on Halloween is STUPID! The students aren't going to show and scads of the general populace are "SCARED" away.
To end: will OHIO get National attention due to:
a. OHIO scheduled the Ragin Cajuns not Purdue
b. It's Halloween in Athens, what level of police protection was necessary THIS YEAR
ps. I'm a HUGE Solich fan - Go Bobcats!

Last Edited: 10/31/2010 11:51:34 AM by BobcatSports

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RE: the LOVE finds this laughable.....

Posted: 10/31/2010 12:35:38 PM

perimeterpost wrote:

Here's the Suckeye's OOC this year- OHIO, Marshall, E. Michigan, U. Miami.
And here's ours- Cajuns, Marshall, Wofford, OSU.

We both played Marshall so those cancel out, a 7-1 Wofford is tougher than a 1-7 E Michigan, #2 OSU away is tougher than #12 Miami at home, and the Cajuns and us are roughly the same, we being a little tougher.

No offense, but this is a completely bogus argument. The Suckeyes can afford to play patsies at home OOC because they have an attractive slate of Big 10 home games to offer their fans. We don't have that same luxury in the lousy MAC. The OOC schedule for OSU is thus just a prelude to the real season, while for us it is the only way to generate attention and excitement by bringing a name opponent into Peden.

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RE: the LOVE finds this laughable.....

Posted: 10/31/2010 12:56:07 PM

Flomo-genized wrote:

perimeterpost wrote:

But the way to generate attention and excitement isn't by getting blasted at home in 4 non-conference games. Yes, having a marquee home non-conference game against a big-conference opponent each year or every 2 years would be nice, BUT thats gotta be balanced against it being a middle/bottom of the pack opponent in those conferences, and that can be somewhat hard to predict 2-6 years out, when the schedules seem to be made up. Yeah, beating UCONN or Pitt or Minnesota at home (and we weren't close against minnesota) is great for the program and would pack the stadium, but if its a choice of getting lit up 44-0 at home by a V. Tech vs eeking out a win over the Ragin' Cajuns, I'll take UL every day of the week.

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RE: the LOVE finds this laughable.....

Posted: 10/31/2010 1:07:05 PM

Flomo-genized wrote:

perimeterpost wrote:

Good point, Flomo. That's why I think we should have one home BCS game at least every other year. It doesn't have to be a top of the line BCS program, but something along the lines of a Louisville, an Indiana, a Purdue, a Vanderbilt, a Northwestern, a Minnesota, or a Syracuse. In any given year those teams are beatable at home. UT beat Purdue on the road this year, and NIU beat U of M on road this year, too.

Also, let me go on the record as saying that I sympathize with ou79. I think his points are all valid. Further I resent the implication of some on this board that being an Ohio grad and/or fan requires you to be into debauchery. Please re-read the quote from one of the University's founding documents emblazoned on the campus gate.

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RE: the LOVE finds this laughable.....

Posted: 10/31/2010 1:18:30 PM

mf279801 wrote:

First of all, no one is calling for 4 marquee non-conference home games. One every year or two is all anyone is really proposing.

Second, how many more seasons of playing (and usually beating) a string of patsies will it take to develop the winning reputation that will increase attendance and excitement? We've only had one sub-500 season since 2005, but have seen no appreciable uptick in either.

Last Edited: 10/31/2010 1:19:27 PM by Flomo-genized

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RE: the LOVE finds this laughable.....

Posted: 10/31/2010 1:49:55 PM

Flomo-genized wrote:

perimeterpost wrote:

no offense taken. out of context you're absolutely correct, but the rest of my original post attempts to put that quote in context. In regards to OSU I go on to say that my point is we don't need a tougher OOC, we need a better conference. I also try to use Boise State as a bridge between the two- like us they are from a marginal, non-BCS conference but like OSU they are a top 5 team. They didn't get there just by playing a murderer's row of OOC games though, as I point out their OOC is only marginally tougher than ours, they got there by being exponentially better than their conference foes..

Boise's OOC keeps them from being #1, but not from being in the top 5. For OHIO to be in the top 5 we can either a.) play the same OOC and join a BCS conference like OSU (not going to happen), or b.) play the same or slightly tougher OOC but destroy every conference opponent in a weak, non-BCS conference, like Boise State.

Until we dominate the MAC consistently our OOC just isn't that important.

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RE: the LOVE finds this laughable.....

Posted: 10/31/2010 4:49:25 PM

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Until we dominate the MAC consistently our OOC just isn't that important.

Agreed

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RE: the LOVE finds this laughable.....

Posted: 10/31/2010 5:02:22 PM

perimeterpost wrote:

I hate to say it, and know that some will disagree, but we are never going to be in a BCS bowl game. There are simply too many hurdles (institutional and otherwise) in our way. Our situation is in no way comparable to Boise State's. Therefore, I'm not worried about OOC scheduling from the standpoint of BCS strategy.

Rather, I look at it from the perspective of maximizing fan interest in the program, and from preparing our team to succeed in the MAC. Our current scheduling strategy is generally successful on the second count (although other strategies could be just as or more successful), but woefully inadequate on the first count. As I've argued before, I believe that a scheduling strategy in which we host a BCS level opponent every other year would do a better job of building fan interest, while not sacrificing the team's chances in the MAC.

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Posted: 10/31/2010 5:19:28 PM

If we can get BCS guy to Peden, why not host one every year?

Where's the band?!
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RE: the LOVE finds this laughable.....

Posted: 10/31/2010 5:24:16 PM

Hey guys, knock it off. Can we just enjoy going to the games and enjoy watching the Bobcats win? Big deal about scheduling, BCS s--t, and other BS. When we are losing you complain. When we are winning you still complain. Just relax. It would be nice if the students showed up. But it's their loss, not mine. BTW, I find Love laughable.
Sincerely,
Your lovable Senior Fan.

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Posted: 10/31/2010 6:12:48 PM

Senior Fan wrote:

+1. We're in the Golden Era, enjoy it while it lasts.

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RE: the LOVE finds this laughable.....

Posted: 10/31/2010 7:06:20 PM

The Situation wrote:

Senior Fan wrote:

+1. We're in the Golden Era, enjoy it while it lasts.

+1
Gotta win the small victories, before you can get those big wins. Relax and enjoy this exciting season will ya?

I'll tell ya where we'll go. Someplace warm. A place where the beer flows like wine. Where beautiful women instinctively flock like the salmon of Capistrano. I'm talkin' bout a little place called... ATHENS.

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Posted: 10/31/2010 7:38:35 PM

Bobcat Love wrote:

First off...I like Coach Solich and what he's done at Ohio.

Second, we are a complete and utter punchline right now in my opinion.

So what.

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RE: the LOVE finds this laughable.....

Posted: 10/31/2010 7:42:47 PM

The Situation wrote:

+1. We're in the Golden Era, enjoy it while it lasts.

I know I'm going to get blasted for this, but...

If the golden era of Ohio football really amounts to struggling to beat horrible Sun Belt teams at home, occassional division championships in a woeful division, and losses in the MAC Championship, GMAC Bowl, and Piazza Bowls, and almost complete national irrelevance, then I can't help but wonder what the point of our football endeavor really is.

Last Edited: 10/31/2010 7:43:32 PM by Flomo-genized

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Posted: 10/31/2010 7:51:05 PM

Flomo-genized wrote:

The Situation wrote:

+1. We're in the Golden Era, enjoy it while it lasts.

+1 to Flomo as always. Perfectly summed up.

Maybe an elite few of us just want to strive for something better than mediocrity in our lives. Obviously not a lot of you on this board, but some of us do.

I wish someone would have warned me in 1994 before I came to Ohio from Kansas City that the fan base was so collectively mediocre. I probably would have taken my talents elsewhere.

Lots of small minded folks on here. Guess we'll keep on enjoying the grind through the Sun Belt and FCS schools. Fun times.

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Posted: 10/31/2010 8:17:05 PM

Flomo-genized wrote:

The Situation wrote:

+1. We're in the Golden Era, enjoy it while it lasts.

As long as we are in the MAC:

I would say the goal for football would to continue to produce NFL talent, play 3 to 5 games a year on National Television and become ranked in the top 10 at seasons end like Miami. Also it would be nice to host a Nationally Televised College Game Day event like BG did several years ago.

The football team will play their next three games on National Television and could play an additional two more on National Television. Where as the basketball team (which I thoroughly enjoy) has won only ONE NCAA game since 1983 and rarely plays an entire game on National Television. The football program continues to produce NFL talent and play on National Television.

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