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Being fired is a terrible thing and I don't want to see that happen to anyone. However, I'd like to make a few points... Let me also say, I'm not calling out anyone for not working hard... i've never felt that way. I know everyone involved in the program busts their ass. Not sure how a total lack of focus was the result of whatever preparations took place before Kent.  - We knew what this Kent match up would bring... Did we not learn anything from last season? Did we not learn anything from film of Kent? Did we not have any plan to counter their strengths? We had 10 days to prepare to leave that steaming dump in an empty stadium on national TV, while, amazingly Kent seemed every bit the media darling this week as Temple was the week before. Let's bring Lou Holtz on so he can say that Kent is the premier football job in the MAC. (Really? Really, Lou? You just went to a whole new level of crazy!)  - Again, I ask, what is our offensive identity? I realize we put up a nice string of 30 point games, but I can't remember a time when so many MAC teams had such horrible defenses. From Akron to Buffalo to BG to Eastern... and we "held on" to make some of those games much more interesting that they had to be with bad turnover after bad turnover.  - Even our MAC title seasons have left sour tastes in my mouth. In two MAC title games, we have 20 total points. In two bowl games, we have 24 total points (17 offensive). Read 'em and weep. I think in both MAC title games, we were facing a superior overall opponent in CMU, but they did not, in either of those seasons, have a defense that warranted such piss-poor offensive numbers on our end. Our offensive performance against Marshall last year was nothing short of pathetic.  - I'd like to see us get a bowl for several reasons... yes we won 8 games and that is more than several other teams who are practically guaranteed a game with a much better payout that we'll ever see. in eh grand scheme of things, there are so many bowls that it's more sad if you DON'T make ANY bowl, than it is worthy of celebration for making one. We are not a sad program. However, I stand by my description of our schedule... Eight wins was the absolute minimum we should have achieved with that lineup. I'd like to post more, but I'm freaking exhausted. Back to Top wellstoncat General User Member Since: 12/27/2004 Post Count: 64 Status: Offline     RE: I apologize...    Posted: 11/28/2010 8:50:40 PM  Let's bring Lou Holtz on so he can say that Kent is the premier football job in the MAC. (Really? Really, Lou? You just went to a whole new level of crazy!) You do know he played at kent and that why he talked them up. nut up or shut up woody harrelson Back to Top Chimokee General User Member Since: 8/13/2006 Post Count: 29 Status: Offline     RE: I apologize...    Posted: 11/29/2010 2:23:53 PM  Deciduous Forest Cat wrote: I have twice started threads calling for a coordinator's head this season. Being fired is a terrible thing and I don't want to see that happen to anyone. However, I'd like to make a few points... Let me also say, I'm not calling out anyone for not working hard... i've never felt that way. I know everyone involved in the program busts their ass. Not sure how a total lack of focus was the result of whatever preparations took place before Kent. - We knew what this Kent match up would bring... Did we not learn anything from last season? Did we not learn anything from film of Kent? Did we not have any plan to counter their strengths? We had 10 days to prepare to leave that steaming dump in an empty stadium on national TV, while, amazingly Kent seemed every bit the media darling this week as Temple was the week before. Let's bring Lou Holtz on so he can say that Kent is the premier football job in the MAC. (Really? Really, Lou? You just went to a whole new level of crazy!) - Again, I ask, what is our offensive identity? I realize we put up a nice string of 30 point games, but I can't remember a time when so many MAC teams had such horrible defenses. From Akron to Buffalo to BG to Eastern... and we "held on" to make some of those games much more interesting that they had to be with bad turnover after bad turnover. - Even our MAC title seasons have left sour tastes in my mouth. In two MAC title games, we have 20 total points. In two bowl games, we have 24 total points (17 offensive). Read 'em and weep. I think in both MAC title games, we were facing a superior overall opponent in CMU, but they did not, in either of those seasons, have a defense that warranted such piss-poor offensive numbers on our end. Our offensive performance against Marshall last year was nothing short of pathetic. - I'd like to see us get a bowl for several reasons... yes we won 8 games and that is more than several other teams who are practically guaranteed a game with a much better payout that we'll ever see. in eh grand scheme of things, there are so many bowls that it's more sad if you DON'T make ANY bowl, than it is worthy of celebration for making one. We are not a sad program. However, I stand by my description of our schedule... Eight wins was the absolute minimum we should have achieved with that lineup. I'd like to post more, but I'm freaking exhausted. Interesting apology. Don't hurt yourself. Last Edited: 11/29/2010 2:24:45 PM by Chimokee Nebraskan For Ohio Back to Top Monroe Slavin General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Oxnard, CA Post Count: 9,121 Status: Offline     RE: I apologize...    Posted: 11/29/2010 2:36:20 PM  kents' d-line dominated.  We couldn't stop their straight on penetration. So, would it have been possible for us to have prepared for this?  Specifically, why didn't we try rolling Boo out in order to gain more time vs. their pass rush? Where's the band?! WHERE"S THE BAND?! DesignspiritUSA.com The Pets On The Go Collection of pet gear travel bags The Holiday Tote Bigg Bagg Collection--over-sized, reversible, extra pockets; now love carrying packages as much as you love shopping! Back to Top MonroeClassmate General User Member Since: 8/31/2010 Post Count: 2,169 Status: Offline     RE: I apologize...    Posted: 11/29/2010 3:00:23 PM  Really Monroe, quit thinking.  The game was the day after Thanksgiving and clearly the only thinking that was going on was whether to have whipped cream on the pumpkin pie. On a less serious note, the play-by-play reads after the opening kick-off that Phil Bates ran for: +2,+8,+15,+4 and zero--all in the first series only. Throw out the +15 and the zero and on three carries he is averaging over 4 yards per pop.  He did not run the ball again until the score was 21-6 and in the fourth quarter and then ONLY once for +2 (6 rushes total for a most dangerous player in the MAC).  Watching other teams over the weekend these running teams didn't give up even though they were at first being stopped.  Ohio wasn't stopped so why was the Phip Bates attack scratched to instead challenge Kent's strength as a conference SACK Machine?  I guess there were leftover slices of pie and that the earlier debate hadn't been resolved?   Back to Top TWT General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 5,208 Status: Offline     RE: I apologize...    Posted: 11/29/2010 3:57:53 PM  wellstoncat wrote: Let's bring Lou Holtz on so he can say that Kent is the premier football job in the MAC. (Really? Really, Lou? You just went to a whole new level of crazy!) Also as I've said on the board a couple of times the best High School football in the state is no longer played in the Cleveland-Akron area. Its not the advantage in recruiting that  it once was.  Take a look at Ohio State's rosters its mostly filled with kids from Central Ohio and Cincinnati. On another note, Akron's new stadium has become a complete bust. Only 5,000 announced tickets against Buffalo. That is absolutely outragous when the school has 50,000 alumni in the city and that stadium is located right in the middle of campus. The community must view the school as a community college or something. Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended 2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round 2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl 2015 34-3 drubbing of Miami @ Peden front of 25,086 Back to Top perimeterpost General User Member Since: 7/6/2010 Post Count: 3,165 Status: Offline     RE: I apologize...    Posted: 11/29/2010 4:08:30 PM  I can't stand Lou Holtz, every time he shows up on my TV and starts talking I feel like i need to get up and wipe his spittle off it. With that being said, I thought his uninterrupted sales pitch about Kent State was the most awesome thing I've ever seen someone say on ESPN about any team in the MAC. Who cares if he exaggerated Kent's importance or relevance in the MAC or in the state of Ohio, that was one hell of a rant. MY STATE. MY TEAM. Back to Top TWT General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 5,208 Status: Offline     RE: I apologize...    Posted: 11/29/2010 4:14:20 PM  perimeterpost wrote: I can't stand Lou Holtz, every time he shows up on my TV and starts talking I feel like i need to get up and wipe his spittle off it. With that being said, I thought his uninterrupted sales pitch about Kent State was the most awesome thing I've ever seen someone say on ESPN about any team in the MAC. Who cares if he exaggerated Kent's importance or relevance in the MAC or in the state of Ohio, that was one hell of a rant. Ohio would get more positive press like this if ESPN televised games from Peden Stadium. There lies the problem. Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended 2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round 2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl 2015 34-3 drubbing of Miami @ Peden front of 25,086 Back to Top anorris General User Member Since: 7/6/2010 Location: Bristol, CT Post Count: 2,262 Status: Offline     RE: I apologize...    Posted: 11/29/2010 6:34:25 PM  Wes wrote: perimeterpost wrote: I can't stand Lou Holtz, every time he shows up on my TV and starts talking I feel like i need to get up and wipe his spittle off it. With that being said, I thought his uninterrupted sales pitch about Kent State was the most awesome thing I've ever seen someone say on ESPN about any team in the MAC. Who cares if he exaggerated Kent's importance or relevance in the MAC or in the state of Ohio, that was one hell of a rant. Ohio would get more positive press like this if ESPN televised games from Peden Stadium. There lies the problem. 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