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  Message Not Read  Boo and Hodge Not in New Orleans
   Posted: 12/14/2010 9:05:51 PM 
According to Arkley's twitter. Both still in Athens for academic reasons, according to Arkley, though there seems to be some doubt whether either may still play.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Boo and Hodge Not in New Orleans
   Posted: 12/14/2010 9:22:50 PM 
Just saw this as well and I am trying not to freak out. Can't be a real good sign.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Boo and Hodge Not in New Orleans
   Posted: 12/14/2010 10:34:41 PM 
Arkley seemed semi-optimistic Boo will play...  I'll take that with me to sleep.  


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  Message Not Read  RE: Boo and Hodge Not in New Orleans
   Posted: 12/14/2010 11:03:21 PM 

Its hard out here for a fan.  Too frequently I must add.  Good grief.



Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?.....

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  Message Not Read  RE: Boo and Hodge Not in New Orleans
   Posted: 12/14/2010 11:08:19 PM 
I cannot understand why guys that have been in college this long cannot take ownership of their academic requirements.  College is not that hard.  I am not saying all athletes need to graduate with honors, but going to class and maintaining a passing GPA should be achieved.  This is really disappointing.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Boo and Hodge Not in New Orleans
   Posted: 12/15/2010 12:00:47 AM 
Well, that ain't good.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Boo and Hodge Not in New Orleans
   Posted: 12/15/2010 12:52:34 AM 
There has just been a screw up in paper work....that has already been sent to NCAA to clear BOO....

What I don't know is why the Athletic Academic team at OHIO couldn't catch this screw up much sooner than the day the bus is leaving to the airport???!!!!!  They had at least 10 days to figure this out.....
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  Message Not Read  RE: Boo and Hodge Not in New Orleans
   Posted: 12/15/2010 8:58:43 AM 
ddub63 wrote:
There has just been a screw up in paper work....that has already been sent to NCAA to clear BOO....

What I don't know is why the Athletic Academic team at OHIO couldn't catch this screw up much sooner than the day the bus is leaving to the airport???!!!!!  They had at least 10 days to figure this out.....


This sir is simply not true.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Boo and Hodge Not in New Orleans
   Posted: 12/15/2010 9:29:11 AM 

So as he closes out his college career, Boo has been involved in bar fight and struggled academically with his eligibility.  To say this is disappointing and disturbing is an understatement.  Hardly presents himself as prepared for the job market.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Boo and Hodge Not in New Orleans
   Posted: 12/15/2010 9:38:39 AM 
What do you know what is true or not......Do you know his class schedule???? And....When it is cleared today...who's going to look stupid........Also were you there at the bar.....or are you going by what you here in the media????
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  Message Not Read  RE: Boo and Hodge Not in New Orleans
   Posted: 12/15/2010 9:39:48 AM 
Hey Wanny, what is not true???? 
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  Message Not Read  RE: Boo and Hodge Not in New Orleans
   Posted: 12/15/2010 9:51:48 AM 
Sorry but I had to create an account on here because of this last remark. I have been a follower of this blog site for the past 3 years just held my fingers  in making a profile. To an outsiders point of view this does look bad, Boo Jackson has been a great student athlete at his time with this University and will continue to be a great alum down the road. The last two impression that are left in his name will be the bar fight (that NONE of us know exactly what but what we read in the paper articles, and WE ALL know that the papers fluff up and fabricate a lot of details). And this BOWL VICTORY!

Of course as an outsider we see that these players are ineligible, but we do not know the details. I can say that it does look bad from our stand point, but never jump to conclusions and automatically blame the students. I am not saying blame the advisors or pointing fingers, but someone does have to take the blame and we have no right to CHOOSE who in fact gets it. These guys have in fact been in college a long time and for some longer then others to earn a Bachelors degree with football. A lot of these guys do everything that it takes to get things done and something fouls up somewhere along the line. I do not know the exact case of either these two young gentlemen and like I said, who are we to point fingers. I do know that both Ernie and Boo are great men and have enjoyed watching their talents show cased at Ohio University.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Boo and Hodge Not in New Orleans
   Posted: 12/15/2010 9:56:47 AM 
ddub63 wrote:
What do you know what is true or not......Do you know his class schedule???? And....When it is cleared today...who's going to look stupid........Also were you there at the bar.....or are you going by what you here in the media????


1st off I never said he wouldn't get cleared....The issue is more than a "paper work" with the NCAA problem.  In fact when ineligibile with grades there is NO paper work for the NCAA it is an institutional issue.  As for stating the reasons, I have more respect for Boo and the program for putting things out here of a personal nature.  


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  Message Not Read  RE: Boo and Hodge Not in New Orleans
   Posted: 12/15/2010 10:08:01 AM 
Well, this seems to be a fitting end to the season.... Maybe Boo should've got his homework done instead of fighting people and recruiting students for the bowl game via facebook. I guess if he doesn't play, he can't have his usual 4-5 turnovers...
BTW - I hope these guys can play, but if not, they can grab their OU ID's and roll down to NO with me... Of course, I could use some help, with gas money, keeping my V8 fueled-up.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Boo and Hodge Not in New Orleans
   Posted: 12/15/2010 10:09:37 AM 
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1st off I never said he wouldn't get cleared....The issue is more than a "paper work" with the NCAA problem.  In fact when ineligibile with grades there is NO paper work for the NCAA it is an institutional issue.  As for stating the reasons, I have more respect for Boo and the program for putting things out here of a personal nature.  


This is true. The grade does have to do with the University, but you can get cleared through the NCAA for having an "INCOMPLETE" on your final grade report and have the NCAA allow the student athlete to "Compete with an Incomplete"
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  Message Not Read  RE: Boo and Hodge Not in New Orleans
   Posted: 12/15/2010 10:13:25 AM 
cc cat wrote:

So as he closes out his college career, Boo has been involved in bar fight and struggled academically with his eligibility.  To say this is disappointing and disturbing is an understatement.  Hardly presents himself as prepared for the job market.



Wow...You should really consider a delay period prior to hitting the enter key... 


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  Message Not Read  RE: Boo and Hodge Not in New Orleans
   Posted: 12/15/2010 10:14:53 AM 
T-Rodge wrote:
Well, this seems to be a fitting end to the season.... Maybe Boo should've got his homework done instead of fighting people and recruiting students for the bowl game via facebook. I guess if he doesn't play, he can't have his usual 4-5 turnovers...
BTW - I hope these guys can play, but if not, they can grab their OU ID's and roll down to NO with me... Of course, I could use some help, with gas money, keeping my V8 fueled-up.


You have no clue what you are talking about when it comes the matters of Jackson. Usual 4-5 turnovers in one game huh? That happened twice this season, WHICH IS A LOT for two games, I will admit I think nobody liked Boo Jackson in the ULL game and frankly wanted him to leave town, but he did BOUNCE BACK and lead us to victory in the second half. REMEMBER THAT! And the Kent game was an all around bad game for the offense! Guys dropping balls, and Boo having 2 seconds in the pocket. But hey, you can blame him, when things go bad it seems like the trend do on this blog, but when things go good, you are all praising him. Guess that is just the world of a QB (get all the credit in the W although underserving, and TAKE ALL of the HEAT in a LOSS).
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  Message Not Read  RE: Boo and Hodge Not in New Orleans
   Posted: 12/15/2010 10:16:03 AM 
NCAA Bylaw 14.1.10.2: To be eligible to compete in a postseason event (e.g., conference tournament, bowl game, National Invitation Tournament, NCAA championship) that occurs between regular terms (including summer) a student-athlete, in his or her final season of competition in the applicable sport, shall have satisfactorily completed six-semester or six-quarter hours of academic credit the preceding regular academic term of full-time enrollment (see Bylaw 14.4.3.1). An institution shall have 14 business days (regardless of the date in which grades are posted or submitted) after the date of the last scheduled examination listed in the institution's official calendar for the term that is ending to certify completion of the six-semester or six-quarter hours of academic credit. If the postseason event occurs prior to the conclusion of the 14 business days, eligibility shall be determined by using grades from either the preceding regular academic term or from the most recent regular academic term for which grades have been posted.
NCAA Interpretation of Bylaw 14.1.10.2: “… if a student-athlete's eligibility changes at the end of a semester or quarter that student-athlete shall become eligible or ineligible on the date that his or her particular eligibility is officially certified by the appropriate institutional authority. The certification of eligibility does not have to occur on the same day for all student-athletes at the certifying institution, but it may not be earlier than the day after the date of the last scheduled examination for the term that is ending or later than the first day of classes of the following semester or quarter.”
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Bylaws concerning this issue directly from the NCAA Manual.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Boo and Hodge Not in New Orleans
   Posted: 12/15/2010 10:16:30 AM 
cc cat wrote:

So as he closes out his college career, Boo has been involved in bar fight and struggled academically with his eligibility.  To say this is disappointing and disturbing is an understatement.  Hardly presents himself as prepared for the job market.



I hate to disturb folks, but perception is reality as Boo moves into the job market.  The above statement is ALL true.  He was involved in a bar fight.  I completely buy into him being the peace-maker, but he was involved.  He has been left behind for "academic" reasons.  To be cleared up...apparently.  Do either of these public incidence help him?  No.  As a business owner and employer, if a recent graduate came to me looking for a job and I looked him/her up on-line (which most employers - especially small business owners) now do, I would be presented with the above evidence.  Would I dismiss him out of hand?  As An alum I would not.  Others, without the connection to Ohio quite possibly would.  Why?  Because these incidents, unfortunately, do not present him as prepared for the job market. Prepared to interact with my clients on my behalf.   I have guest lectured college seniors on this very subject. Our lives are now very much an open book.  We need to be careful to control the narrative. 

Last Edited: 12/15/2010 10:18:45 AM by cc-cat

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  Message Not Read  RE: Boo and Hodge Not in New Orleans
   Posted: 12/15/2010 10:18:50 AM 
JSalmon wrote:
T-Rodge wrote:
Well, this seems to be a fitting end to the season.... Maybe Boo should've got his homework done instead of fighting people and recruiting students for the bowl game via facebook. I guess if he doesn't play, he can't have his usual 4-5 turnovers...
BTW - I hope these guys can play, but if not, they can grab their OU ID's and roll down to NO with me... Of course, I could use some help, with gas money, keeping my V8 fueled-up.


You have no clue what you are talking about when it comes the matters of Jackson. Usual 4-5 turnovers in one game huh? That happened twice this season, WHICH IS A LOT for two games, I will admit I think nobody liked Boo Jackson in the ULL game and frankly wanted him to leave town, but he did BOUNCE BACK and lead us to victory in the second half. REMEMBER THAT! And the Kent game was an all around bad game for the offense! Guys dropping balls, and Boo having 2 seconds in the pocket. But hey, you can blame him, when things go bad it seems like the trend do on this blog, but when things go good, you are all praising him. Guess that is just the world of a QB (get all the credit in the W although underserving, and TAKE ALL of the HEAT in a LOSS).


With you on this!!!!  Boo is very important to the success this team has had!  Boo has also done many good things, in this case he has put himself behind the proverbial 8-Ball, but he's still been one of my favorites in the past couple of years.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Boo and Hodge Not in New Orleans
   Posted: 12/15/2010 10:26:57 AM 
John C. Wanamaker wrote:
JSalmon wrote:
T-Rodge wrote:
Well, this seems to be a fitting end to the season.... Maybe Boo should've got his homework done instead of fighting people and recruiting students for the bowl game via facebook. I guess if he doesn't play, he can't have his usual 4-5 turnovers...
BTW - I hope these guys can play, but if not, they can grab their OU ID's and roll down to NO with me... Of course, I could use some help, with gas money, keeping my V8 fueled-up.


You have no clue what you are talking about when it comes the matters of Jackson. Usual 4-5 turnovers in one game huh? That happened twice this season, WHICH IS A LOT for two games, I will admit I think nobody liked Boo Jackson in the ULL game and frankly wanted him to leave town, but he did BOUNCE BACK and lead us to victory in the second half. REMEMBER THAT! And the Kent game was an all around bad game for the offense! Guys dropping balls, and Boo having 2 seconds in the pocket. But hey, you can blame him, when things go bad it seems like the trend do on this blog, but when things go good, you are all praising him. Guess that is just the world of a QB (get all the credit in the W although underserving, and TAKE ALL of the HEAT in a LOSS).


With you on this!!!!  Boo is very important to the success this team has had!  Boo has also done many good things, in this case he has put himself behind the proverbial 8-Ball, but he's still been one of my favorites in the past couple of years.


I do agree with you, he has put himself behind the 8 ball DEFINITELY. But to sit here and assume things is never good, at least from my perspective. I also agree with cc cat and like I said, from an outsiders point of view it does look bad. People that do have connections with Ohio University could tell this Boo Jackson is not the kind of man that is put in the paper articles and blog reports that speak negatively of him. But as a small business owner that has no ties to Ohio University, the research on Boo could be quite disturbing. The thing that I was trying to counter is that Boo is a great man and has gone above and beyond the expectations of him as a student athlete in his career here. And for people the basically throw him under the bus is absurd.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Boo and Hodge Not in New Orleans
   Posted: 12/15/2010 10:34:30 AM 
cc cat wrote:
cc cat wrote:

So as he closes out his college career, Boo has been involved in bar fight and struggled academically with his eligibility.  To say this is disappointing and disturbing is an understatement.  Hardly presents himself as prepared for the job market.



I hate to disturb folks, but perception is reality as Boo moves into the job market.  The above statement is ALL true.  He was involved in a bar fight.  I completely buy into him being the peace-maker, but he was involved.  He has been left behind for "academic" reasons.  To be cleared up...apparently.  Do either of these public incidence help him?  No.  As a business owner and employer, if a recent graduate came to me looking for a job and I looked him/her up on-line (which most employers - especially small business owners) now do, I would be presented with the above evidence.  Would I dismiss him out of hand?  As An alum I would not.  Others, without the connection to Ohio quite possibly would.  Why?  Because these incidents, unfortunately, do not present him as prepared for the job market. Prepared to interact with my clients on my behalf.   I have guest lectured college seniors on this very subject. Our lives are now very much an open book.  We need to be careful to control the narrative. 


I have worked for a company consistently ranked in the top 20 of the Fortune 500 list for the last 13 years and my organization is currently comprised of 100+ multinational reports.  Regardless of my Alumni stats, based on my interactions with Boo to date as well as my understanding of his work in the community, I would jump at the chance to hire him.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Boo and Hodge Not in New Orleans
   Posted: 12/15/2010 10:37:50 AM 
JSalmon wrote:
John C. Wanamaker wrote:
JSalmon wrote:
T-Rodge wrote:
Well, this seems to be a fitting end to the season.... Maybe Boo should've got his homework done instead of fighting people and recruiting students for the bowl game via facebook. I guess if he doesn't play, he can't have his usual 4-5 turnovers...
BTW - I hope these guys can play, but if not, they can grab their OU ID's and roll down to NO with me... Of course, I could use some help, with gas money, keeping my V8 fueled-up.


You have no clue what you are talking about when it comes the matters of Jackson. Usual 4-5 turnovers in one game huh? That happened twice this season, WHICH IS A LOT for two games, I will admit I think nobody liked Boo Jackson in the ULL game and frankly wanted him to leave town, but he did BOUNCE BACK and lead us to victory in the second half. REMEMBER THAT! And the Kent game was an all around bad game for the offense! Guys dropping balls, and Boo having 2 seconds in the pocket. But hey, you can blame him, when things go bad it seems like the trend do on this blog, but when things go good, you are all praising him. Guess that is just the world of a QB (get all the credit in the W although underserving, and TAKE ALL of the HEAT in a LOSS).


With you on this!!!!  Boo is very important to the success this team has had!  Boo has also done many good things, in this case he has put himself behind the proverbial 8-Ball, but he's still been one of my favorites in the past couple of years.


I do agree with you, he has put himself behind the 8 ball DEFINITELY. But to sit here and assume things is never good, at least from my perspective. I also agree with cc cat and like I said, from an outsiders point of view it does look bad. People that do have connections with Ohio University could tell this Boo Jackson is not the kind of man that is put in the paper articles and blog reports that speak negatively of him. But as a small business owner that has no ties to Ohio University, the research on Boo could be quite disturbing. The thing that I was trying to counter is that Boo is a great man and has gone above and beyond the expectations of him as a student athlete in his career here. And for people the basically throw him under the bus is absurd.

Well, I would have rather thrown him ON the bus..... 


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  Message Not Read  RE: Boo and Hodge Not in New Orleans
   Posted: 12/15/2010 10:40:19 AM 
JSalmon wrote:
John C. Wanamaker wrote:
JSalmon wrote:
T-Rodge wrote:
Well, this seems to be a fitting end to the season.... Maybe Boo should've got his homework done instead of fighting people and recruiting students for the bowl game via facebook. I guess if he doesn't play, he can't have his usual 4-5 turnovers...
BTW - I hope these guys can play, but if not, they can grab their OU ID's and roll down to NO with me... Of course, I could use some help, with gas money, keeping my V8 fueled-up.


You have no clue what you are talking about when it comes the matters of Jackson. Usual 4-5 turnovers in one game huh? That happened twice this season, WHICH IS A LOT for two games, I will admit I think nobody liked Boo Jackson in the ULL game and frankly wanted him to leave town, but he did BOUNCE BACK and lead us to victory in the second half. REMEMBER THAT! And the Kent game was an all around bad game for the offense! Guys dropping balls, and Boo having 2 seconds in the pocket. But hey, you can blame him, when things go bad it seems like the trend do on this blog, but when things go good, you are all praising him. Guess that is just the world of a QB (get all the credit in the W although underserving, and TAKE ALL of the HEAT in a LOSS).


With you on this!!!!  Boo is very important to the success this team has had!  Boo has also done many good things, in this case he has put himself behind the proverbial 8-Ball, but he's still been one of my favorites in the past couple of years.


I do agree with you, he has put himself behind the 8 ball DEFINITELY. But to sit here and assume things is never good, at least from my perspective. I also agree with cc cat and like I said, from an outsiders point of view it does look bad. People that do have connections with Ohio University could tell this Boo Jackson is not the kind of man that is put in the paper articles and blog reports that speak negatively of him. But as a small business owner that has no ties to Ohio University, the research on Boo could be quite disturbing. The thing that I was trying to counter is that Boo is a great man and has gone above and beyond the expectations of him as a student athlete in his career here. And for people the basically throw him under the bus is absurd.


I understand and others echo your respect for him.  If you know him, tell him he needs to tap into those that he has met: charitable organizations, community/business leaders, etc.  Get 4 or 5 letter of recommendation highlighting his character, leadership and how he would be a positive force for a company and community.  Then when he sits with potential employers, tell him to address the mis-information straight on - In bar/restaurant when brother got in fight, someone retrieved me to play peace-maker, cold-cocked before I could even get there.  Grades in place, final project completed outside of class, grade submitted by professor on-time for University, but late for NCAA (or whatever the story - he can infuence that story though).  He needs to control the dialogue the way he controls the huddle.  As a fan, I'm glad to hear he will be playing.  As an Alum, I want the chatter about our athletes to be positive - and they influence that more than anyone else.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Boo and Hodge Not in New Orleans
   Posted: 12/15/2010 10:42:54 AM 
Bobcat36 wrote:
cc cat wrote:
cc cat wrote:

So as he closes out his college career, Boo has been involved in bar fight and struggled academically with his eligibility.  To say this is disappointing and disturbing is an understatement.  Hardly presents himself as prepared for the job market.



I hate to disturb folks, but perception is reality as Boo moves into the job market.  The above statement is ALL true.  He was involved in a bar fight.  I completely buy into him being the peace-maker, but he was involved.  He has been left behind for "academic" reasons.  To be cleared up...apparently.  Do either of these public incidence help him?  No.  As a business owner and employer, if a recent graduate came to me looking for a job and I looked him/her up on-line (which most employers - especially small business owners) now do, I would be presented with the above evidence.  Would I dismiss him out of hand?  As An alum I would not.  Others, without the connection to Ohio quite possibly would.  Why?  Because these incidents, unfortunately, do not present him as prepared for the job market. Prepared to interact with my clients on my behalf.   I have guest lectured college seniors on this very subject. Our lives are now very much an open book.  We need to be careful to control the narrative. 


I have worked for a company consistently ranked in the top 20 of the Fortune 500 list for the last 13 years and my organization is currently comprised of 100+ multinational reports.  Regardless of my Alumni stats, based on my interactions with Boo to date as well as my understanding of his work in the community, I would jump at the chance to hire him.


Unfortunately, not all potential employers have that luxury. Per my above post, he needs to tap into you and others.

Last Edited: 12/15/2010 10:43:39 AM by cc-cat

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