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We will get by. We will get by. We will get by. We will survive. Back to Top Bcat2 General User Member Since: 7/6/2010 Post Count: 4,295 Status: Offline     RE: Nebraska fits right in with the Big 10-Dozen    Posted: 12/31/2010 7:49:07 AM  Pataskala wrote: The 10-3 Huskers celebrate their entry into a conference notorious for losing to Pac 10 and SEC teams by losing to a 6-6 Washington team. You want it too easy. You want to judge the Washington team by their overall record. A season is long and teams change through them. Washington like Troy started poorly and finished guns blazing. Injured players return, young players develop. Look at the last four or five games and than judge. The Huskies the Huskers played last night beared no relation to the early season Huskies. Sorry you don't get to tag Washington by how they started. The Huskies are not 6 & 6 the are a bowl winning team. It is not were you start that matters it is where you finish that counts. Life is like that too. "Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men." JFK Back to Top John C. Wanamaker General User Member Since: 1/2/2005 Post Count: 1,103 Status: Offline     RE: Nebraska fits right in with the Big 10-Dozen    Posted: 12/31/2010 9:17:21 AM  Are we really giving backhanded insults to the Big10? Last time I checked the MAC was one of the worse conferences in the nation, yet it will mak you feel better to point put the perceived flaws of others? This is current through the December 29th Bowl games Winners are in Bold Teams who haven’t played are in italics Conference Schools Rec Win% ACC (9) Georgia Tech, North Carolina St, Maryland, North Carolina, Clemson, Miami (FL), Florida State, Virginia Tech, Boston College 2-1 .667 Big East (6) Louisville, West Virginia, Syracuse, South Florida, UCONN, Pittsburgh 1-1 .500 Big Ten (8) Iowa, Illinois, Northwestern, Michigan St, Penn St, Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio State 2-0 1.000 Big 12 (8) Missouri, Baylor, Oklahoma St, Kansas St, Nebraska, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Texas A&M 1-2 .333 C-USA (6) UTEP, Southern Miss, Tulsa, East Carolina, SMU, UCF 1-3 .250 Independent(3) Navy, Army, Notre Dame 0-1 .000 MAC (4) N Illinois, Ohio, Toledo, Miami (OH) 1-2 .333 MWC (5) BYU, Utah, San Diego State, Air Force, TCU 3-1 .750 Pac-10 (4) Arizona, Washington, Stanford, Oregon 0-1 .000 SEC (10) Tennessee, Georgia, South Carolina, Alabama, Miss. St, Arkansas, LSU, Kentucky, Auburn, Florida 0-0 .000 Sun Belt (3) Troy, Fla Intl, Mid Tennessee 2-0 1.000 WAC (4) Fresno St, Boise St, Hawaii, Nevada 1-2 .333 You might also like: NCAA College Football Conference Bowl Records "Half the money I spend on advertising is wasted; the trouble is I don't know which half." Back to Top John C. Wanamaker General User Member Since: 1/2/2005 Post Count: 1,103 Status: Offline     RE: Nebraska fits right in with the Big 10-Dozen    Posted: 12/31/2010 9:21:01 AM  ArtiCle from the NYDaily News: Looks like we've been drinking a little too much of that SEC Kool-Aid when it comes to comparisons with the Big Ten. Since 2003, the Big Ten is actually a highly competitive 9-9 in bowl games against college football's supposedly top conference. The Big Ten will have four chances to improve on its post season record against the SEC next month when Penn State plays Florida in the Outback Bowl, Mississippi State plays Michigan in the Gator, Michigan State plays Alabama in the Capital One and Ohio State plays Arkansas in the Sugar Bowl. The Big Ten finished with three teams in the AP Top 10 last year and should finish with three more Top 10 teams at the end of the season. Ohio State won a national championship in 2002 and the Big Ten was 4-3 in bowl games last year, but the conference's image has taken a PR hit in the past because of its overall bowl record since 2003, which is 19-31. Share     Buzz up!vote now Share "Half the money I spend on advertising is wasted; the trouble is I don't know which half." Back to Top colobobcat66 General User Member Since: 9/1/2006 Location: Watching the bobcats run outside my window., CO Post Count: 4,550 Status: Offline     RE: Nebraska fits right in with the Big 10-Dozen    Posted: 1/1/2011 4:02:58 PM  There may be some more juice for the kool aid jug after today.  Some real beatdowns! Back to Top Casper71 General User Member Since: 12/1/2006 Post Count: 3,090 Status: Offline     RE: Nebraska fits right in with the Big 10-Dozen    Posted: 1/1/2011 5:21:46 PM  Let's face it...Midwestern football has really SUCKED this Bowl season.  Not sure what ALL the factors are but one that is obvious is the lack of athletes in comparison to southern and western teams.  Anybody got more answers? Back to Top Ohio Here General User Member Since: 7/6/2010 Post Count: 151 Status: Offline     RE: Nebraska fits right in with the Big 10-Dozen    Posted: 1/1/2011 5:22:45 PM  SEC shows why they're still the best conference. Back to Top Ohio69 General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 3,062 Status: Offline     RE: Nebraska fits right in with the Big 10-Dozen    Posted: 1/1/2011 8:31:20 PM  Well, I enjoyed watching the Big 10 get trounced today.   After Gordon Gee's arrogant comments, the whole Legends and Leaders thing, and the free pass on the OSU violations, I've decided to despise the whole conference, including Penn State, who was my boyhood favorite college football team. So, it was a fun day of football watching. Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?..... Back to Top AintBeenGood General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Ohio Post Count: 84 Status: Offline     RE: Nebraska fits right in with the Big 10-Dozen    Posted: 1/1/2011 8:33:20 PM  Ohio69 wrote: Well, I enjoyed watching the Big 10 get trounced today.   After Gordon Gee's arrogant comments, the whole Legends and Leaders thing, and the free pass on the OSU violations, I've decided to despise the whole conference, including Penn State, who was my boyhood favorite college football team. So, it was a fun day of football watching. Me too. Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,776 Status: Offline     RE: Nebraska fits right in with the Big 10-Dozen    Posted: 1/1/2011 8:39:11 PM  Well, I must support the U of M -- Minnesota -- my mother's alma mater.  However, I'm with you on the rest of the conference.  How do you spell OVERRATED? OK, JCW, I know most Big 10-12 teams are better than most MAC teams.  (sorry, just trying to be preemptive) The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top Pataskala General User Member Since: 7/8/2010 Location: At least six feet away from anybody else Post Count: 9,365 Status: Offline     RE: Nebraska fits right in with the Big 10-Dozen    Posted: 1/1/2011 9:05:23 PM  Big Televen: 0-5 in one day.  The stuff Legends are made of.  They're now the Leaders in bowl losses. Maybe it's just the unies, but man those Midwest schools looked slllooow against the SEC and Texas schools today. And I was really rooting for Penn State against Florida.  You know, Joe Pa has been coaching for 45 years at PSU.  That means there are guys from his first PSU team who have reached retirement age.  It's gotta be tough for them to retire tho, with Joe Pa still cruising the sidelines. We will get by. We will get by. We will get by. We will survive. Back to Top bobcatsquared General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 5,419 Status: Offline     RE: Nebraska fits right in with the Big 10-Dozen    Posted: 1/1/2011 9:22:40 PM  Looking forward to my drive home from work Monday afternoon and listening to torg and the common man on 1460 the Fan in Columbus. With the big 10's 0-fer today plus Notre Dame's win Friday I'm sure those two tools will be in special form. It will only get better if Va. Tech wins Monday night (I think they hate Va Tech almost as much as ND). The perfect storm would then include an o$u loss in the Sugar Bowl. Back to Top JSF General User Member Since: 1/29/2005 Location: Houston, TX Post Count: 6,554 Status: Offline     RE: Nebraska fits right in with the Big 10-Dozen    Posted: 1/1/2011 10:17:14 PM  Bcat2 wrote: You want it too easy. You want to judge the Washington team by their overall record. A season is long and teams change through them. Washington like Troy started poorly and finished guns blazing. Injured players return, young players develop. Look at the last four or five games and than judge. The Huskies the Huskers played last night beared no relation to the early season Huskies. Sorry you don't get to tag Washington by how they started. The Huskies are not 6 & 6 the are a bowl winning team. It is not were you start that matters it is where you finish that counts. Life is like that too. And they finished a mediocre 7-6.  As long as they count the early games, they still matter. "Loyalty to a hometown or city is fleeting and interchangeable, but college is a stamp of identity."- Kyle Whelliston, One Beautiful Season. My blog about depression and mental illness: https://bit.ly/3buGXH8 Back to Top colobobcat66 General User Member Since: 9/1/2006 Location: Watching the bobcats run outside my window., CO Post Count: 4,550 Status: Offline     RE: Nebraska fits right in with the Big 10-Dozen    Posted: 1/2/2011 10:52:39 AM  Bobcat Dragon wrote: Bcat2 wrote: You want it too easy. You want to judge the Washington team by their overall record. A season is long and teams change through them. Washington like Troy started poorly and finished guns blazing. Injured players return, young players develop. Look at the last four or five games and than judge. The Huskies the Huskers played last night beared no relation to the early season Huskies. Sorry you don't get to tag Washington by how they started. The Huskies are not 6 & 6 the are a bowl winning team. It is not were you start that matters it is where you finish that counts. Life is like that too. And they finished a mediocre 7-6.  As long as they count the early games, they still matter. They do in BB too, right? Back to Top Diamond Cat General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 862 Status: Offline     RE: Nebraska fits right in with the Big 10-Dozen    Posted: 1/2/2011 11:18:05 AM  I have despised that conf since I was a kid. Once again, they choke when it counts. Even if joke state wins Tuesday it will not reverse the obvious. Yes - the MAC sucked. But I saw a comment on here that could not have been better - the weak 11/12 is the MAC with money. If we could only get in on this money printing frenzy I believe we would be a legit Top 25 every year. That said, it would have to happen for a decade to even the playing field.  Never happen.  Back to Top JSF General User Member Since: 1/29/2005 Location: Houston, TX Post Count: 6,554 Status: Offline     RE: Nebraska fits right in with the Big 10-Dozen    Posted: 1/2/2011 11:29:36 AM  colobobcat66 wrote: Bobcat Dragon wrote: Bcat2 wrote: You want it too easy. You want to judge the Washington team by their overall record. A season is long and teams change through them. Washington like Troy started poorly and finished guns blazing. Injured players return, young players develop. Look at the last four or five games and than judge. The Huskies the Huskers played last night beared no relation to the early season Huskies. Sorry you don't get to tag Washington by how they started. The Huskies are not 6 & 6 the are a bowl winning team. It is not were you start that matters it is where you finish that counts. Life is like that too. And they finished a mediocre 7-6.  As long as they count the early games, they still matter. They do in BB too, right? Absolutely. "Loyalty to a hometown or city is fleeting and interchangeable, but college is a stamp of identity."- Kyle Whelliston, One Beautiful Season. My blog about depression and mental illness: https://bit.ly/3buGXH8 Back to Top roger General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: durham, NC Post Count: 118 Status: Offline     RE: Nebraska fits right in with the Big 10-Dozen    Posted: 1/2/2011 12:22:47 PM  I don't buy into the theory that the big ten choked or had an implosion. I believe they were beat by better teams. In every case team speed was the difference.The big ten is slow, lumbering, large players that cannot compete with the SEC and other conferences. This was best seen at the Rose Bowl where a big deal was made of Wisonsins size differntial over TCU but in the end it was team speed that won the day. Back to Top Bcat2 General User Member Since: 7/6/2010 Post Count: 4,295 Status: Offline     RE: Nebraska fits right in with the Big 10-Dozen    Posted: 1/2/2011 12:35:53 PM  roger wrote: I don't buy into the theory that the big ten choked or had an implosion. I believe they were beat by better teams. In every case team speed was the difference.The big ten is slow, lumbering, large players that cannot compete with the SEC and other conferences. This was best seen at the Rose Bowl where a big deal was made of Wisonsins size differntial over TCU but in the end it was team speed that won the day. OK, roger, if the only intangible that matters is speed, please explain the Washington vs Nebraska reslult? Early on in the year a Husker easy win then later in the bowl an easy win for the Huskies. Did the Huskies all of a sudden get a lot faster? After a fashion, I believe their defense did. A matter of the D getting their act together along with having their senior middle LB available did put defenders where they needed to be at least a step or two quicker. Though I would credit coaching more than speed here. "Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men." JFK Back to Top JSF General User Member Since: 1/29/2005 Location: Houston, TX Post Count: 6,554 Status: Offline     RE: Nebraska fits right in with the Big 10-Dozen    Posted: 1/2/2011 4:57:21 PM  Speed is an intangible? "Loyalty to a hometown or city is fleeting and interchangeable, but college is a stamp of identity."- Kyle Whelliston, One Beautiful Season. My blog about depression and mental illness: https://bit.ly/3buGXH8 Back to Top colobobcat66 General User Member Since: 9/1/2006 Location: Watching the bobcats run outside my window., CO Post Count: 4,550 Status: Offline     RE: Nebraska fits right in with the Big 10-Dozen    Posted: 1/2/2011 7:55:30 PM  Bcat2 wrote: roger wrote: I don't buy into the theory that the big ten choked or had an implosion. I believe they were beat by better teams. In every case team speed was the difference.The big ten is slow, lumbering, large players that cannot compete with the SEC and other conferences. This was best seen at the Rose Bowl where a big deal was made of Wisonsins size differntial over TCU but in the end it was team speed that won the day. OK, roger, if the only intangible that matters is speed, please explain the Washington vs Nebraska reslult? Early on in the year a Husker easy win then later in the bowl an easy win for the Huskies. Did the Huskies all of a sudden get a lot faster? After a fashion, I believe their defense did. A matter of the D getting their act together along with having their senior middle LB available did put defenders where they needed to be at least a step or two quicker. Though I would credit coaching more than speed here. My guesses as to what happened include Martinez not being the same player he was earlier  in the year when he was being mentioned as a Heisman candidate (crazy idea-I know)and absolutely no interest in playing this game by the players at NU (much like the fans who decided not to go to a repeat igameUltimately it comes down to the coaches getting a team ready, but sometimes the players aren't real interested in playing. Back to Top Bcat2 General User Member Since: 7/6/2010 Post Count: 4,295 Status: Offline     RE: Nebraska fits right in with the Big 10-Dozen    Posted: 1/2/2011 11:41:22 PM  Bobcat Dragon wrote: Speed is an intangible? Dragon, not really, can not believe I typed that.  Thanks, like walking around with my fly open, only a real friend will tell you. "Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men." JFK Back to Top Ozcat General User Member Since: 1/4/2005 Location: Gahanna, OH Post Count: 820 Status: Offline     RE: Nebraska fits right in with the Big 10-Dozen    Posted: 1/3/2011 12:49:07 AM  roger wrote: This was best seen at the Rose Bowl where a big deal was made of Wisonsins size differntial over TCU but in the end it was team speed that won the day. Not in the game I watched.  Coaching, or lack thereof, won this game.  Not speed. Wisconsin was having their way on the ground the entire game.  If they would have just kept pounding and not trying to pass in the second half, they would have won this game.  They could have also ran John Clay up the middle on the 2 point try and likely gotten it, as the O-line was blowing their D-line way off the ball.  #43 from TCU was sick though.  Bielman blew this game. One year ago the Big 10 did just fine, going 4-3.  And if Northwestern's kicker wouldn't have missed like 5 field goals, they would have been 5-2.  Every year is different, and anyone who ranks conferences by bowl record in any particular is oblivious.  Watch the games.  The SEC is the best conference and it's obvious.  Whether you believe the correlation that it also has the lowest academic standards is up to you, but in my opinion, there is a reason Vanderbilt cannot compete. The Big 10 had a terrible draw this year.  Michigan was awful, and frankly (like OU) should not have even been invited to a bowl, and they draw a ranked team.  Alabama probably has the most talent in the country, and they get a Michigan State team who barely beat Notre Dame and got trounced by Iowa.  Penn State was down, and drew Florida, in Florida.  Bad matchups all the way around, which leads me to my next rant: Why the hell are there so many bowl games?  Some of these games are a joke.  Nobody wants to see Michigan play Mississippi State or OU play Troy.  If a playoff is out of the question, which it shouldn't be, then 12 bowl games, MAX. Back to Top Bobcat36 General User Member Since: 1/5/2005 Location: Delaware, OH Post Count: 1,167 Status: Offline     RE: Nebraska fits right in with the Big 10-Dozen    Posted: 1/3/2011 9:46:11 AM  I seriously couldn't be happier... And as an added bonus, Jimbo gets to answer questions about his Little 12 officiating staff completely botching a supposed excessive celebration call in the Syracuse / Kansas State game  which direclty impacted the outcome.  Roll on Jimbo...Roll on...  Last Edited: 1/3/2011 10:14:03 AM by Bobcat36 GoBobcats!!!!            Always have been and always will be... Ohio's First and Finest! Back to Top Bobcat36 General User Member Since: 1/5/2005 Location: Delaware, OH Post Count: 1,167 Status: Offline     RE: Nebraska fits right in with the Big 10-Dozen    Posted: 1/3/2011 10:09:45 AM  Ozcat wrote: [QUOTE=roger] Why the hell are there so many bowl games?  Some of these games are a joke.  Nobody wants to see Michigan play Mississippi State or OU play Troy.  If a playoff is out of the question, which it shouldn't be, then 12 bowl games, MAX. You might want to bounce that off Michigan, Mississippi State, Ohio and Troy fans as well as outlying conference / regional fans.  Additionally, there's a reason these bowls are all around...They still get ratings and they bring commerce to the host cities. GoBobcats!!!!            Always have been and always will be... Ohio's First and Finest! Back to Top John C. Wanamaker General User Member Since: 1/2/2005 Post Count: 1,103 Status: Offline     RE: Nebraska fits right in with the Big 10-Dozen    Posted: 1/3/2011 10:44:28 AM  Funny, everyone associated with the rules committee and supervisor of officials all say that was the correct call, and to be fair that penalty was called in the Big10 all year long.  Interesting sidenote, that was an Ohio Alum who made the call. "It was something that was spontaneous, and I think the official did make the right call based on the rule that we have," said Connecticut coach Randy Edsall, chairman of the NCAA football Rules Committee. "I think it is always tough because everybody knows there is no gray area. We're not saying you can't celebrate or you can't have fun. There is a way to have fun. And that was one where it was more individualistic rather than a team." The defenders of the officials' penalty call want to say it fits the letter of the rule, but it's fair to ask if it actually does. Here is the definition provided by the game's referee Todd Geerlings: "Excessive celebration is rule 9-2-1d, which states a penalty is called for: 'Any delayed, excessive, prolonged or choreographed act by which a player attempts to focus attention on himself (or themselves).'" "Half the money I spend on advertising is wasted; the trouble is I don't know which half." 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