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ESPN-Longhorns on 20-year, $300 million deal

Posted: 1/19/2011 8:27:33 PM

24/7 Longhorns sports. Think this will call ESPN's loyalties into question when they have a Texas game?

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RE: ESPN-Longhorns on 20-year, $300 million deal

Posted: 1/20/2011 1:42:22 AM

Texas was the highest grossing program before these TV deals were released and now they are clear #1 in TV. They are making more than ND's deal with NBC and that is not including the 25 million per year that Texas is earning in the unequal revenue sharing Big XII. They are making 40 million a year in TV or twice OHIO's athleic budget. Because of this deal, the Big XII which was rumored to split up isn't going anywhere. Texas, TAMU, and Oklahoma are pigging the money, the other schools aren't doing as well but no better options exist but the status quo. The name of the game in college sports is changing. It was traditionally about making revenue from a big football following. Then since the 80's TV markets have driven who moves where. The new trend is the Boone Pickens major donor way of doing things where as long as a school has deep pcckets nothing else matters. OHIO just picked up a big donation for athletics but if you look also at the school projecting an 11% increase in enrollment over the next few years the financial future of the athletic department looks promising. OHIO could go the way of SMU or UCF with million dollar football and basketball coaches fairly easily and place its program head and shoulders over the D1 midmajors with all the money coming in.

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RE: ESPN-Longhorns on 20-year, $300 million deal

Posted: 1/20/2011 5:40:51 AM

And people wonder why Nebraska left?

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RE: ESPN-Longhorns on 20-year, $300 million deal

Posted: 1/20/2011 9:12:59 AM

I can see this being the end-game for a lot of schools, not just Texas. It'll just take some time.

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RE: ESPN-Longhorns on 20-year, $300 million deal

Posted: 1/21/2011 3:09:56 AM

UT had this in the pipeline for quite some time. The fact that 2 schools bolted the Big XII had little to do with the new network. Someday every major program will have the opportunity for their own network. UT is just the beginning.

Colorado wanted to be in the PAC 10 (12) for ages. NU was pretty much the bully of the Big 8 and couldn't stand to have another program bully them the way they were used to bullying others. Kind of a pi$$ing contest.
Someday there will be a Husker network.

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RE: ESPN-Longhorns on 20-year, $300 million deal

Posted: 1/21/2011 5:26:29 AM

Football Jim wrote:

The fact this was in the works has been cited as a driving force for some of the defections of the Big12

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RE: ESPN-Longhorns on 20-year, $300 million deal

Posted: 1/21/2011 9:11:24 AM

Is it this easy? Just start a network and you'll make $15 million per year off advertising?

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RE: ESPN-Longhorns on 20-year, $300 million deal

Posted: 1/21/2011 11:11:46 PM

Doesn't this make it more likely, Wes, that Texas will go independent? That way they keep all of the TV money for themselves and can swing other marketing deals as well. Also, without UT, the B12 doesn't have as much total revenue to spread around to the remaining members. Just a thought, but it seems with the BYU move that other schools may take a serious look at going the independent route.

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RE: ESPN-Longhorns on 20-year, $300 million deal

Posted: 1/22/2011 4:23:09 AM

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Actually it doesn't because Texas is getting the best of both worlds by having a conference deal with strong revenue and a secondary deal for its olympic sports. The longhorns threated to leave ESPN's stable (and Big XII conference) so ESPN over paid for its prized pony. The Big XII has allowed Texas to keep Colorado and Nebraska's exit fees for themselves just so they would stay. Texas has for itself a weak BCS league that it can bully around much like Notre Dame has with the Big East. If Notre Dame was really in it just for the money and not for the tradition of independence they could negotiate a double dip TV deal for themselves and conference package by joining the Big East in football (both the Big East and Big XII would then have 10 football playing members). Florida could try and pull the same number with the SEC. I'm not sure that very many schools could get away with it.

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RE: ESPN-Longhorns on 20-year, $300 million deal

Posted: 1/22/2011 10:15:50 AM

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Doubtful. BYU is going to find that being an independent doesn't get you great bowl games. Their one tie-in is the Kraft Fight Hunger (fka Emerald [nut]) Bowl. Big payout there. Army and Navy don't have great bowl tie-ins, either. Notre Dame has been relying on its ancient history for its NBC deal and on its ties with the Big East for some decent bowl games. Utah and TCU went to BCS auto qualifying conferences for one reason: Better Bowls. BYU will likely find itself mired in backwater bowls (even if it is in SF).

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RE: ESPN-Longhorns on 20-year, $300 million deal

Posted: 1/22/2011 7:09:06 PM

Pataskala, what makes you say Navy does not have great Bowl Tie-ins????

Outside of BCS land Navy couldnt ask for better opportunities for it's following. Every one of their tie-ins is in Naval towns where large numbers of service members are stationed, and are always well attended.

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RE: ESPN-Longhorns on 20-year, $300 million deal

Posted: 1/23/2011 9:07:57 PM

You are correct that CU and NU cited the Texas Network as a large reason for leaving, but in reality it made for a great easy excuse. CU has always looked upon the rest of the Big XII as being rednecks and clodhoppers while they thought of themselves as sophisticated and upper crust. For many years they have wanted an excuse to court the PAC 10 where they think they fit better with the Stanfords of the world. What is funny is that CU will most likely be considered rednecks and clodhoppers by the rest of their league with the exception of Wash. State and Utah.

Nebraska simply had a chance to make a pile of money and get a fresh start as Oklahoma and Texas dominate the rest of the league. NU and TU never did get along behind the scenes and they were chomping at the bit to leave.
They both used Missouri as the scapegoat until that wasn't working, then the TU Network gave them great sound bites.

UT doesn't need to go indie, they already control their destiny.

Oklahoma has pretty much stayed quiet on the league breakup, but the Sooners are the real key as to the future of the Big XII.

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RE: ESPN-Longhorns on 20-year, $300 million deal

Posted: 1/25/2011 9:21:58 PM

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I wasn't looking at attendance. When it comes to the service academies, attendance isn't a really good barometer: we don't know how many of the tickets were freebies or deeply discounted. (The cynic in me also wonders how many of the military personnel were there because it was "strongly suggested" (i.e., they were ordered) to be there.) Besides they have an "alumni association" -- VFW or American Legion -- in darn near every town. I was looking at payouts. Navy has tie-ins with Poinsettia (as do BYU and Army); Kraft (as do BYU and Army) and Armed Forces. They each have payouts of about $750,000, same as Pizza and Godaddy. Navy and Army also have the Military Bowl, which pays out $1 million. The mid-level bowls (e.g., Sun, Gator, Cotton, Outback, Insight, Holiday and Pinstripe) all pay in the $2 million to $4+ million range. Getting to one of those as an indy is next to impossible because of the various conference ties.

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RE: ESPN-Longhorns on 20-year, $300 million deal

Posted: 1/25/2011 9:33:31 PM

My statement is in regards to the fact Academy football (All three of them) is about their branches and loyalty to that branch. The services stand still during Army v Navy, they have few real outsiders as fans, and let's face it, in regards to quality of football none of them deserve a major bowl game, but they deserve to play in front of people where they can provide a get-a-way to families who need it, and a pride to ones branch of service.

In my life I have been to the Super Bowl, a "national championship game", World Series, Stanley Cup Final, Ohio State v Michigan! Alabama v Aurbun, and I can honestly say nothing comes close to an Army Navy Game. The experience is amazing!!!!!

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Posted: 1/25/2011 11:01:20 PM

I got you Wanny--one of my life goals is to attend an Army-Navy.

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RE: ESPN-Longhorns on 20-year, $300 million deal

Posted: 1/25/2011 11:01:37 PM

That's great. But I don't think that's what BYU is looking for by going indy.

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RE: ESPN-Longhorns on 20-year, $300 million deal

Posted: 1/26/2011 3:16:21 AM

Pataskala wrote:

That's great. But I don't think that's what BYU is looking for by going indy.

I don't think I EVER mentioned BYU!

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RE: ESPN-Longhorns on 20-year, $300 million deal

Posted: 1/26/2011 1:41:50 PM

JCW,
With that event history, I'd like to talk to your ticketing agent. I'd settle for pretty much any one of those in a lifetime (except maybe the Ohio A&M thing).

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Posted: 1/26/2011 1:44:20 PM

Two years ago for Christmas my wife bought me a ticket album, filled it up from my box of tickets and I am now on my third album, with still some stubs laying around. The only major sporting event I have never attended is a NASCAR event, and I would love to take one in, just never made the arrangements. Just this past summer I took my family to 7 Major League baseball parks, we have a passion for travel.

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RE: ESPN-Longhorns on 20-year, $300 million deal

Posted: 1/26/2011 9:25:36 PM

John C. Wanamaker wrote:

Pataskala wrote:

That's great. But I don't think that's what BYU is looking for by going indy.

I don't think I EVER mentioned BYU!

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No, but that's how this thread got started -- a discussion of going indy and what BYU was thinking about.

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Posted: 1/26/2011 9:52:20 PM

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I'd recommend Bristol (the night race) or the Coke 600 in Charlotte. It is a totally different perspective, to be sure, from seeing it on TV.

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Posted: 1/27/2011 8:50:52 AM

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John C. Wanamaker wrote:

I'd recommend Bristol (the night race) or the Coke 600 in Charlotte. It is a totally different perspective, to be sure, from seeing it on TV.

and at Bristol you avoid those unsightly wife beater sunburns so often seen at other races.

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RE: ESPN-Longhorns on 20-year, $300 million deal

Posted: 1/27/2011 9:12:24 AM

Bristol is the one I want to attend, unfortunately my various activities always have me tied up during those events, but someday.

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Posted: 1/27/2011 2:18:16 PM

If/when you get the chance, be sure to make a full day of it. The afternoons in the parking lot tend to be a lot of fun (and full of wonderful food).

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RE: ESPN-Longhorns on 20-year, $300 million deal

Posted: 1/27/2011 7:55:13 PM

anorris wrote:

John C. Wanamaker wrote:

I'd recommend Bristol (the night race) or the Coke 600 in Charlotte. It is a totally different perspective, to be sure, from seeing it on TV.

I would also give the nod to Bristol, we had season tickets for over 10 years before giving up on NASCAR. The only thing is, with very few exceptions, Bristol will spoil you. So If you want to do Brickyard/Michigan/Chicagoland/etc, make sure you do them before you go to Bristol, because they'll become dull after you've seen Bristol. (although Bristol isn't nearly what it used to be with the repaving)

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