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Topic: So we are moving towards Oregon's offense?

Topic: So we are moving towards Oregon's offense?

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Ohio69
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So we are moving towards Oregon's offense?

Posted: 4/7/2011 10:25:33 AM

Sounds like it, eh? No huddle. Run plays quickly. Etc.

Last Edited: 4/7/2011 10:25:51 AM by Ohio69

Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?.....

Doc Bobcat
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RE: So we are moving towards Oregon's offense?

Posted: 4/7/2011 10:30:12 AM

Why not?

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RE: So we are moving towards Oregon's offense?

Posted: 4/7/2011 10:50:37 AM

I hope we can pull it off. A hurry-up offense takes a lot of skill and practice on the players and the coaches to do it right.

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RE: So we are moving towards Oregon's offense?

Posted: 4/7/2011 1:55:56 PM

According to an article posted today, Ball State is trying to do the same thing.

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RE: So we are moving towards Oregon's offense?

Posted: 4/7/2011 4:09:26 PM

I'm glad we are trying this out. We have some serious game-breakers out on the field with Brazill, Bates and others. Doing what we can to keep the defense on their heels should seriously open things up for these guys.

Plus, (as long as we are winning) it's a can't miss with casual fans. If it's fun to watch, maybe more people will come out to Peden!

Last Edited: 4/7/2011 4:09:51 PM by Paul Graham

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RE: So we are moving towards Oregon's offense?

Posted: 4/7/2011 5:29:32 PM

Doc Bobcat wrote:

Why not?

Football simple game really. "Run the ball, stop the run, win the game." This season with a new defensive front Ohio's offense will be key to winning T.O.P. I am for anything that will create first downs or touchdowns. The offense will have to win some tougher games than last season. Given some special plays from the special teams This season might be fun to watch. My point, however does not matter, the offense needs to control the ball and with good special teams win the socalled "battle of field position."

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RE: So we are moving towards Oregon's offense?

Posted: 4/7/2011 5:46:13 PM

Bcat2 wrote:

Doc Bobcat wrote:

Why not?

I have a limited view of no huddles.....but I am an old fart so I have viewed a few....I guess no huddle experience is a relative term.

From what I've seen the no huddle confuses the D and puts certain D players either out of position or not ready to make the play.

The first team that I ever saw in person that did this was an Upper Arlington high school team in the 60's who simply was ready to play and the defense wasn't.

To me the best thing that the no huddle brings in my mind is the defense being not ready or extremely befuddled.

Wyoming did this to us when they beat us at Peden a few years ago.....we couldn't get the players that we wanted on the field.

Last Edited: 4/7/2011 5:46:51 PM by Doc Bobcat

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RE: So we are moving towards Oregon's offense?

Posted: 4/7/2011 5:53:32 PM

I read that article and got real excited for football season. We have the players to do this.

I've seen crazier things happen.

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RE: So we are moving towards Oregon's offense?

Posted: 4/7/2011 6:34:15 PM

I think I heard Urban Meyer call it the "shred" offense.

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RE: So we are moving towards Oregon's offense?

Posted: 4/7/2011 8:37:12 PM

I hope they can pull it off. But even if they can't, it'll be great for the D. No huddle has given us problems during recent seasons, and if the D can get used to defending it, they'll be more effective.

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RE: So we are moving towards Oregon's offense?

Posted: 4/7/2011 8:55:21 PM

Does this mean Miami will be faking injuries?

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RE: So we are moving towards Oregon's offense?

Posted: 4/7/2011 9:46:36 PM

Let's see...The spread is spreading. As has the wildcat (nee single wing) and as did the triple-option, wishbone, veer, winged T, T, Yet we still see plenty of low-scoring games. So my question is: how have total points per 1-A game changed over, say, the last 25 seasons?

Are we seeing appreciably more points scored per game? Or not?

A bobcatattack stats maven likely can unearth the answer with a few savvy clicks.

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RE: So we are moving towards Oregon's offense?

Posted: 4/8/2011 12:46:38 AM

A no huddle offense does not necessarily mean that we will be running a play every 15 seconds. It means that we will set up at the line immediately after the previous offensive play, not allowing the defense to get substitutions on the field. Technically, we could set up on the line and wait 30-35 seconds before we snap the ball.

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RE: So we are moving towards Oregon's offense?

Posted: 4/8/2011 1:24:45 AM

I think this would be a great move IF the players and coaches can execute the plays smoothly. One of the things that bothered me a bit about the Bobcats the past couple of years was the plodding slow pace of the team between snaps. I think a hurry up will keep the players more intense.

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RE: So we are moving towards Oregon's offense?

Posted: 4/8/2011 3:44:30 AM

I guess the tide done turned. Against my fervent advocacy of doing the hurry-up at least some of the time, I was told that we don't have the right players for that, that it's a gimmick, that the coaches know what they're doing and they're not doing that, etc, etc. Now you all grab zactly what I was talkin' about--put the defense on the run, off balance.

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RE: So we are moving towards Oregon's offense?

Posted: 4/8/2011 10:24:30 AM

Ran into Phil Bates today while he was jogging on west union..not a man gawker but Whoa nelly...he is a freak of nature..I once met Boo Jackson and Shaq O'Neal and the same thing popped into my mind..I would not want to make these guys mad! Bates reminds me of the he-man figurines I had as a child but bigger and faster.

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RE: So we are moving towards Oregon's offense?

Posted: 4/8/2011 4:27:36 PM

Football Jim wrote:

To me, its been since the begining of time as a Bobcat fan that I notably slower execution than the opponents has bothered me and along with that the always over complicated play book. We are at the point, at least in reagards to MAC competition that we are capable of running the opponent off the field on the basis of talent alone. No longer to we have to rely on gimmick schemes to move the ball down field.

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RE: So we are moving towards Oregon's offense?

Posted: 4/8/2011 8:50:40 PM

It must be noted that when Oregon has gone up against top-flight defenses in bowl games, they have met with very stiff resistance. Noticed that with the option... some teams just knew how to defend it, others looked befuddled for 60 minutes and looked like they had concrete shoes.

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RE: So we are moving towards Oregon's offense?

Posted: 4/8/2011 9:42:16 PM

Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:

This was always the argument against Tom Osborne and the option at Nebraska. Teams weren't prepared for it during the season, so it worked -- but given six weeks of bowl prep defenses could learn to shut it down. Of course, then NU won three championships in the 90s. It's really about having a good scheme...and the best players.

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RE: So we are moving towards Oregon's offense?

Posted: 4/9/2011 9:11:34 AM

Monroe Slavin wrote:

There is a huge difference between implementing a new offense in spring ball than what you were suggesting - trying to change the offensive scheme in between week 4 and week 5.

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RE: So we are moving towards Oregon's offense?

Posted: 4/9/2011 11:18:19 AM

Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:

It must be noted that when Oregon has gone up against top-flight defenses in bowl games, they have met with very stiff resistance.

And that should concern us because.....

Last Edited: 4/9/2011 11:19:13 AM by cc-cat

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RE: So we are moving towards Oregon's offense?

Posted: 4/9/2011 7:45:06 PM

Uncle Wes makes a good point about the slowness of our offense as we lined up at scrimmage in years past. We looked so uncertain and unready so often. I was not advocating that we wholesale go to the hurry-up last year. I was merely advocating that we use it occasionally. We didn't even have to run different plays. We could have run our usual offense. Just the change in tempo alone would have been a new thing for opposing defenses. It would have, by engaging more of the brain part of football, given us slight advantage at points.

O-ree-gonz offense having a tough time against top teams?--did you see the title game? Their loss to 'burn was not because of the hurry-up. It was due to running 180 or so lb running backs at the goal line. Ya need beef at the goal line at some points. It's so blindingly evident as something we've lacked over the last 3-5 years that it requires no explanation.

The Ducks disdained a field goal at the Auburn goal line with about 4 mintues left, instead running their lightweight rb's. Got no points. Later they got to the goal line and their lightweight rb's again were stopped. Until--brainpower--they didt hat pitch forward to an rb run that the Dallas Cowboys use. That brains-over-brawn play got them the td. But they lost because they failed to get points at the 4 minute mark because they didn't have an elephant rb to run it in.

Ya need some stampeding big running backs and ya needs to engage the brainpower.

That said, I don't think we should run the hurry-up all of the time. Variety in our offense is variety of problems which we can blow at the oppo's defense.

If you go to the spring game, don't be near the sideline. I think there's gonna be some bigtime talent hitting and playmaking going on.

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RE: So we are moving towards Oregon's offense?

Posted: 4/13/2011 4:06:25 PM

I'm not stupid.

http://www.thepost.ohiou.edu/content/football-young-passers-aim-starting-role

We were stodgy and didn't take advantage of alteration of temp last year. 119 of 120 in plays run! When you have an overwhelming advantage in talent, you can beat the other team. But whipping the bottom 6-7 teams in the MAC proves nothing and impresses no one.

All anyone remembers is the flatness of kents and Troy. We got beated.

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