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Topic: PreSnapRead.com MAC analysis

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Cat4ever
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PreSnapRead.com MAC analysis

Posted: 7/12/2011 4:42:27 AM

There's a lot of interesting stuff in Paul Myerberg's rundown on the MAC, including plaudids for Coach Solich and some comments that provide insight into the logic behind the order of teams in his count-up to No. 1 (he does not believe Ohio has the best talent in the MAC, but he does believe it is good and should feast on what he believes is the easiest FBS schedule).

But enough preface. The post is here: http://www.presnapread.com/forecasting-the-mac-in-2011/#more-23518.

Enjoy (or not) and let the comments begin!

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RE: PreSnapRead.com MAC analysis

Posted: 7/12/2011 8:28:53 AM

"...slightly above-average team."

That's an interesting take.

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RE: PreSnapRead.com MAC analysis

Posted: 7/12/2011 9:46:16 AM

Robert Fox wrote:

"...slightly above-average team."

That's an interesting take.

Foxie,

It is possibly a fair evaluation to depict us as "slightly above average" -- IF he's looking at OUr team in the context of the big picture of all 120 FBS teams.

That is sure a nice upgrade from where we were regarded seven years ago! And the 'Cats are still "a project" ... a work in progress.

I know I certainly wouldn't go on record with a resounding endorsement of a team that has the kinds of questionmarks that we have -- notably at QB and RB. Rather, I'd fill the opinion with a lot of "if's."

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RE: PreSnapRead.com MAC analysis

Posted: 7/12/2011 10:05:24 AM

I honestly prefer it this way...OUr program will demonstrate the fact that we are at a true cross roads this season and if we can do it without the spotlight on us until half way through the season (after we've had a chance to mature OUr QB) then so much the better...

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RE: PreSnapRead.com MAC analysis

Posted: 7/12/2011 10:32:49 AM

Cat4ever wrote:

Robert Fox wrote:

"...slightly above-average team."

That's an interesting take.

I agree. I think it is a fair evaluation. My point is that it should serve to temper the 10-win predictions we are hearing. I fear our collective expectations may be a bit too high this year. If this team wins 8 or 9, is that a failure?

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RE: PreSnapRead.com MAC analysis

Posted: 7/12/2011 10:45:22 AM

Robert Fox wrote:

Cat4ever wrote:

Robert Fox wrote:

"...slightly above-average team."

That's an interesting take.

I think as a whole, fans of teams generally do have higher expectations than what should realistically be expected. I think 8-9 wins is realistic. If everything falls into place and we get breaks, we could win 10-11 or even 12 games. I'm not counting on it, though. If some things really fall apart, I don't think 6-7 wins is out of the question.

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RE: PreSnapRead.com MAC analysis

Posted: 7/12/2011 4:30:00 PM

Just remember that my prediction of an undefeated season in 2011 was made several years ago, before the server crash. Could they lose a game or three this year? Sure. Could they be undefeated? There is no doubt in my mind that it could happen. Therefore I see no conclusive reason to change my forecast at this time. I've taken a bit of heat over the years for what seemed like an outlandish prediction a few years ago, so if it happens, this way I can claim credit as the first person to predict it.

Would I consider an 8-10 win season a disappointment? No, you take your wins as you find them, and the ball doesn't always bounce the right way. So long as the kids play as hard as they can for 60 minutes a game, they'll have my support, regardless of the final result. Go Bobcats.

Last Edited: 7/12/2011 4:30:45 PM by L.C.

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RE: PreSnapRead.com MAC analysis

Posted: 7/12/2011 4:58:57 PM

L.C., you old piker, what's this 12-0 stuff? I won't be satisfied with anything less than 14-0!

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RE: PreSnapRead.com MAC analysis

Posted: 7/12/2011 5:04:59 PM

Bobcat36 wrote:

The program is in an envious position to be in. Solich has made some questionable calls on and off the field but over the long haul is turning out to be a great move. At seven seasons he is the dean of MAC coaches. He owns a record of 5-1 against Miami and 3-1 against Temple the next two best teams in the division. The biggest issue that has kept Ohio from a bowl win or a MAC Championship was not having the talent at a few positions. QB and RB continue to be question marks but he has loaded this program upfront and at receiver. I'm pretty convinced Frank is going to be coaching in Athens through 2015 after that Burrow will take over to continue the tradition.

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RE: PreSnapRead.com MAC analysis

Posted: 7/12/2011 8:33:51 PM

There's no question that Solich was a "find", if not a steal. To have somebody of his caliber coaching in the MAC, and especially at OU, is awesome. I think the assessment in the article is about right. There are too many questions at key functions going into the season (i.e., QB, the running game and the entire D line) to rate the team better than "slightly above average." I think it'll all come together by October, tho, when the seemingly softest part of the schedule hits. I was a bit surprised they picked us first; I'm hoping the MAC media isn't so generous 'cause they always get it wrong.

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RE: PreSnapRead.com MAC analysis

Posted: 7/12/2011 10:28:58 PM

Pataskala wrote:

There's no question that Solich was a "find", if not a steal. To have somebody of his caliber coaching in the MAC, and especially at OU, is awesome.

Yep! I totally agree. I wonder...if we can put together a couple of great seasons, perhaps Frank will become the face of the MAC and Ohio will become THE place to play in the conference. Then we would really be in position to clean up (on the field and recruiting-wise) for a few years until he retires. It's time this conference had a successful coach that is happy to be here.

Lets just hope that other MAC schools don't figure this out and start hiring older, experienced coaches who have had their fill of BCS football.

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RE: PreSnapRead.com MAC analysis

Posted: 7/13/2011 12:06:49 AM

8 wins or more is always a success at Ohio. Very few Ohio have done that. I'll also take 6-2 or better in the MAC every year. I think we are over do for a 10 win season. Solich has had this team for several years and Ohio is probably the most stable program in the MAC in terms of the coaching staff turnover. Everyone else has a new coach. WMU is probably the only team that could claim more tenure at the top than Ohio. Everybody in the division has gone thru major changes to their coaching staff except Ohio the last 3 years. Ohio players don't have to learn a new system. They have seen it for several years. That saves time in practice and Ohio can move on to more advanced stuff.

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