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C Money
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Sunday Games

Posted: 2/17/2011 9:59:26 AM

Let's assume there is an NFL lockout and no pro football for at least the first few weeks next fall. The people will want Sunday football. If the NFL won't give it to them, the ESPNCAA will. That either enables mid-majors to move to Sunday, or the AQs to, freeing up Saturday TV slots for schools like us.

Does anyone know if there is a plan in place for this? And what is our likelihood of taking advantage of it?

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RE: Sunday Games

Posted: 2/17/2011 10:25:31 AM

IF that were to happen and the MAC could flip Tu games up to the preceeding Sunday that quickly, it would obviously be a huge move for both viewership AND putting butts in seats.

However, I would think that the logistics, particularly with the TV equipment, might make that a tough move. (not to mention the volatility/unpredictability of the NFL/NFLPA coming to an agreement)

Perhaps ANorris has a take on the TV side of things.

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RE: Sunday Games

Posted: 2/17/2011 12:10:50 PM

Since I live in an area (northern N.J.) where pro football is king,the topic of a shortened or worse,no NFL football season has gotten a lot of attention.
The viability of Sunday college games would, in my opinion depend on the labor situation when the season begins.
If teams haven't even reported to camp by Labor Day,then there would be a lag of a few weeks between when teams report and games could start.
I would also think that,when (if) a labor agreement is reached,the NFL would announce a schedule for starting play.
These senarios would provide the ability to schedule at least a few weeks worth of college games on Sunday.
I would also think that, if this does happen,that,depending on contracts,in addition to ESPN,Fox,CBS and NBC could be interested in trying to book college games to fill their Sunday void.

While there is no question this would present logistical issues,if they feel the advertising revenue is there,eveyone will find a way to get it done.

Perfect example,look at how the NFL was able to move the Giant's/Vikings gane from Minn. to Detroit in a little over 24 hours.

What I don't know is how well these games would do in certain markets.Out here,most people do not follow college football now,including watching the National Championship game.I don't know if that would change.
Most of my friends tell me they don't like the college game,and have no desire to watch teams they have no interest in or loyalty too.

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RE: Sunday Games

Posted: 2/17/2011 12:50:53 PM

Even if some of our games are scheduled on sundays and we don't get much of a TV deal out of this, I bet a lot more students will show up on sunday games based solely on the fact they'll have no pro games to watch.

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RE: Sunday Games

Posted: 2/17/2011 4:18:41 PM

Does this mean you want to miss out on the Replacement games or do you think the NFL owners will give up that easily this time? The replacement games from the last lockout were just odd enough to be mildly entertaining. The balance of power was upside down - the bad were good and vice versa. Even the Browns have a shot in a league of replacements.

While I don't doubt the NCAA and the major networks would look at college games, I would really hate to see it happen on a large scale. More likely would be one or two "marquee" games per week that some second division BCS schools might agree to.

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RE: Sunday Games

Posted: 2/17/2011 10:19:56 PM

I'm so frikkin sick of all the money crap in pro sports.

OK all the money teams just pick off the cream of the other teams.......get James.....get Pujols......I don't give a $hit.

I'll watch replacement players on Sunday and keep my true allegiance to college sports.....I didn't have a James jersey to burn....but it looks like I'll be burning my autographed Pujols jersey soon....well I still have my autographed Stan Musial photo.

I hate the way pro sports has changed since the 50's......and don't give me all that they deserve it crap.....I heard one athlete say that the reason that he was asking for 20 million a year instead of ten was that he had to feed his family......what the F are the eating....Lamborfrikkinghinis?

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RE: Sunday Games

Posted: 2/17/2011 11:20:47 PM

If there aren't games with replacements still being televised by CBS/Fox on Sundays, they'll have a lot of idle production trucks, and crews.

Not quite sure how the contracts work between networks and production truck companies, but usually for big shows like the NFL they're fairly custom-made with those partners in mind, so I am not sure if CBS or Fox would have a commitment to use them so many times over the season, but it would make sense. The crews producing games could really be the ones out of luck, as most of them would be freelancers and as such would stand to lose a lot of dough if there is no football to televise.

So it seems logical enough to me that it could happen, although I'd be very curious to see, if there are no games at all, if CBS and Fox aren't the ones filling those holes with college games. I think CBS would get killer ratings on an SEC game of the week on Sundays (or run two a week through the network, Sat. and Sun.).

Fox has been largely out of the college game for years, only doing a couple BCS games (and nothing this past season), but they've recently shown renewed interest in collegiate football, having bought the rights to air the inaugural PAC-12 championship game. They've also been making some noise about leveraging FX to distribute national games when they negotiated their PAC-12 and Big 12 deals recently, so it does seem that the company as a whole is potentially positioned to make a college play.

More ideas to chew on: NBC and ESPN will have crews and equipment idle, as well as holes in their schedules on Sunday night and Monday night. NBC's recent merger with Comcast means that NBCUniversal now also controls the Versus network, so the potential for NBC to attempt to grab a MWC game wouldn't be out of the question (I've heard rumors about Notre Dame potentially getting bumped down to Versus, so it doesn't seem like a huge stretch for them to try and maneuver the other direction, as well). ESPN hardly needs any explanation -- they have loads of content deals.

The problems that would crop up will be with contracts, many of which specify time slots in which games are allowed to air, days games can be moved to, etc. -- not that that couldn't be negotiated with a mutually-agreeable contractual amendment. I also think you may run into some issues with particularly conservative private schools opposed to playing on Sundays.

So, to sum up -- it surely seems possible, but only if the work stoppage is complete (i.e.: no replacements), and the schools and conferences are willing to shuffle. This is all just my educated conjecture, but it does seem like it would rate pretty highly, probably about as well as any replacement programs the networks could find. Certainly would draw better numbers than airing UFL games, I'm sure.

EDIT: Also, as far as doing things quickly -- many Saturday games throughout the season are on 14-day selection windows, so being able to mobilize quickly shouldn't be much of an issue, and there would be some warning if the teams come back to play -- they won't sign Saturday and play Sunday (or probably even next Sunday).

I personally think they'll sign something at the eleventh hour before the preseason gets started, but that's based on nothing at all -- not even a firm grasp of the specifics at issue.

Last Edited: 2/17/2011 11:23:51 PM by anorris

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RE: Sunday Games

Posted: 2/17/2011 11:36:02 PM

Won't happen. The NFL and the players cannot possibly be stupid enough as to try to kill the golden goose. I'll be moneycashmoneycashmoneycashmoney amazed if they don't get a deal done.

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RE: Sunday Games

Posted: 2/18/2011 7:19:01 AM

Monroe Slavin wrote:

Won't happen. The NFL and the players cannot possibly be stupid enough as to try to kill the golden goose. I'll be moneycashmoneycashmoneycashmoney amazed if they don't get a deal done.

According to interviews they've had on Sports Radio out here,money may not be the only major sticking point.
There seems to be a real problem between owners and players over expanding the season to 18 games.Both sides,so far anyway,seem unflexible.Getting paid for additional games doesn't seem to be the issue,its "wear and tear".The players' feeling is that,even if the roster is expanded,the starters will still be expected to play if the games "count".

Another issue between the owners themselves is revenue sharing.Although T.V. revenues are split equally,small market owners have to pay a greater % of their income towards salaries,since they don't have the same "outside" revenue sources,like luxury boxes that big market teams do.Again,accordig to the interviews I've heard,small market owners feel there should be a more equitable revnue sharing formula.

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RE: Sunday Games

Posted: 2/18/2011 7:51:04 AM

rpbobcat wrote:

Another issue between the owners themselves is revenue sharing.Although T.V. revenues are split equally,small market owners have to pay a greater % of their income towards salaries,since they don't have the same "outside" revenue sources,like luxury boxes that big market teams do.Again,accordig to the interviews I've heard,small market owners feel there should be a more equitable revnue sharing formula.

My pesonal suspicion is that that's a bigger issue in all of this than what has been let on. It takes only 9 owners to kill any deal. Jerry Jones has to pay for his stadium somehow, and he doesn't want to give Mike Brown any more money.

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RE: Sunday Games

Posted: 4/4/2011 6:24:02 PM

http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1205409

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RE: Sunday Games

Posted: 4/5/2011 4:31:33 PM

Interesting idea. Beyond the TV logistics, there would be hotel logistics to work out as well as Sunday games may mean fans show up on Saturday and leave Sunday - one night stays versus in on Friday and stay over till Sunday - two nights. Can always be addressed - e.g., require guests to still check in Friday. Larger markets that are not reliant on hotel nights from games (e.g., LA versus State College or Clemson) would make sense, as would smaller markets/schools that could leverage the exposure (Ohio, East Carolina) and be nimble in rescheduling.

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RE: Sunday Games

Posted: 7/25/2011 5:29:33 PM

Well, so much for this pipe dream. But hey, if the NFL and NFLPA can work things out, maybe this whole debt-limit thing will work out OK too....

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