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KyleWvr13
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  Message Not Read  OT: 2011-2012 Academic rankings
   Posted: 8/5/2011 12:11:35 PM 
I think some people would find this interesting.  Forbes came out with their list of the top 650 colleges in the nation.  To save you all some trouble, here are the ranks of the MAC schools:

278: Miami University
353: Ohio University
381: University at Buffalo
481: Bowling Green
496: Temple University
566: Kent State
560: Ball State
610: Northern Illinois
620: Toledo
623: Akron
626: Central Michigan
641: Eastern Michigan
645: Western Michigan

Side note: Marshall is not ranked (LOL).

EDIT: I forgot to cite my sources: http://www.forbes.com/top-colleges/list/#p_1_s_aRank

Last Edited: 8/5/2011 12:19:22 PM by KyleWvr13
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   Posted: 8/5/2011 12:25:53 PM 
KyleWvr13 wrote:
I think some people would find this interesting.  Forbes came out with their list of the top 650 colleges in the nation.  To save you all some trouble, here are the ranks of the MAC schools:

278: Miami University
353: Ohio University
381: University at Buffalo
481: Bowling Green
496: Temple University
566: Kent State
560: Ball State
610: Northern Illinois
620: Toledo
623: Akron
626: Central Michigan
641: Eastern Michigan
645: Western Michigan

Side note: Marshall is not ranked (LOL).

EDIT: I forgot to cite my sources: http://www.forbes.com/top-colleges/list/#p_1_s_aRank


This ranking is the worst of all the so-called best college rankings. Dr. Vedder has it out for the OU administration. I'm convinced he designed the rankings so we wouldn't crack the top 200. Interesting that we were still the second highest MAC school. Sure says something about the MAC

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  Message Not Read  RE: OT: 2011-2012 Acedimic rankings
   Posted: 8/5/2011 12:40:21 PM 
Lists are generally "talk starters."
Two thoughts:
  • Nice to discover OSU down the list among Ohio colleges and universities (at No. 283)
  • What is "Acedimic" (in the Subject line) mean? Methinks perhaps we just flunked spelling!

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  Message Not Read  RE: OT: 2011-2012 Acedimic rankings
   Posted: 8/5/2011 12:48:08 PM 
Factors that go into Forbes' rankings:

No. 1: Student Satisfaction (27.5%)
Student Evaluations from RateMyProfessor.com (17.5%)
Freshman-to-Sophomore Retention Rates (5%)
Student Evaluations from MyPlan.com (5%)

No. 2: Postgraduate Success (30%)
Salary of Alumni from Payscale.com (15%)
Listings of Alumni in Who's Who in America (10%)
Alumni in Forbes/CCAP Corporate Officers List (5%)

No. 3: Student Debt (17.5%)
Four-year Debt Load for Typical Student Borrower (12.5%)
Student Loan Default Rates (5%)

No. 4: Four-year Graduation Rate (17.5%)
Actual Four-year Graduation Rate (8.75%)
Predicted vs. Actual Four-year Graduation Rate (8.75%)

No. 5: Competitive Awards (7.5%)
Student Nationally Competitive Awards (7.5%)


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  Message Not Read  RE: OT: 2011-2012 Acedimic rankings
   Posted: 8/5/2011 12:50:31 PM 
Cat4ever wrote:

  • What is "Acedimic" (in the Subject line) mean? Methinks perhaps we just flunked spelling!


*Facepalm*

Pardon me as I regret not checking what I type for typos.
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   Posted: 8/5/2011 1:19:39 PM 
The rankings seem HEAVILY weighted towards small, private colleges. But I guess when you focus entirely on undergraduate education, then those schools start to look pretty good.
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   Posted: 8/5/2011 2:30:51 PM 
I am glad to see OHIO coming in above Clemson (374) and Georgia Tech (397). The problem with the private schools is that unless people have heard of them their academic quality is suspect and compared with local type colleges (Rio Grande!) when interviewing out of the area. I never have anyone ask me about the party school rep at Ohio unless they are from the state. People generally see what we've been saying about the other schools like Wisconsin and Georgia on the list as to the type of schools listed on the party rankings in that OHIO is nothing more than another selective state school with big student parties. On the other hand its good to go to college where you want to live. If you don't want to live in Ohio why go to college there? If you want to live in LA even if where you go is a minor college empolyers will be familiar with it.  

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   Posted: 8/5/2011 2:35:44 PM 
Uncle Wes wrote:
If you don't want to live in Ohio why go to college there? If you want to live in LA even if where you go is a minor college empolyers will be familiar with it.  
Dollar bills.  I'm from Ohio, thus going to school in Ohio (at a school with a great program for my profession) was the most economically sound decision.

And to be honest, the school's reputation didn't matter a bit in getting me my job -- what really mattered was the volunteer work I'd done, and experience and knowledge I had in the field from outside the classroom, which would not have been available to me elsewhere in the state.
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   Posted: 8/5/2011 2:55:47 PM 
anorris wrote:
Uncle Wes wrote:
If you don't want to live in Ohio why go to college there? If you want to live in LA even if where you go is a minor college empolyers will be familiar with it.  
Dollar bills.  I'm from Ohio, thus going to school in Ohio (at a school with a great program for my profession) was the most economically sound decision.

And to be honest, the school's reputation didn't matter a bit in getting me my job -- what really mattered was the volunteer work I'd done, and experience and knowledge I had in the field from outside the classroom, which would not have been available to me elsewhere in the state.


I'm ignoring the cost factor in the equation. Assuming money and special job preparation is not an issue, I would look at where you want to live. You've also have to think of dating here. Often you find who you are going to marry in college. They may want to stay locally when they graduate. In-state schools are geared toward landing a job in one of the cities in that state. The Columbus kids are by and large going down to Athens for there education to return back to the suburb after graduation and look for a job locally. Unless they are planning to go on to grad school right after college, that is a different story.

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  Message Not Read  RE: OT: 2011-2012 Acedimic rankings
   Posted: 8/5/2011 3:21:44 PM 
Uncle Wes wrote:

I'm ignoring the cost factor in the equation. Assuming money and special job preparation is not an issue, I would look at where you want to live. You've also have to think of dating here. Often you find who you are going to marry in college. They may want to stay locally when they graduate. In-state schools are geared toward landing a job in one of the cities in that state. The Columbus kids are by and large going down to Athens for there education to return back to the suburb after graduation and look for a job locally. Unless they are planning to go on to grad school right after college, that is a different story.


I'm not so sure about that. I graduated in 2004 and many of my Athens contemporaries are scattered around the country. In general I think you are probably right if cost isn't a factor. If you're a tech guy, then perhaps you should just take the plunge and go to school at Cal Tech, Berkeley or some other west coast school if you want to end up in Silicon Valley. But really, how many 17 year old kids actually think like this :)
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   Posted: 8/5/2011 3:27:13 PM 
Paul Graham wrote:
Uncle Wes wrote:

I'm ignoring the cost factor in the equation. Assuming money and special job preparation is not an issue, I would look at where you want to live. You've also have to think of dating here. Often you find who you are going to marry in college. They may want to stay locally when they graduate. In-state schools are geared toward landing a job in one of the cities in that state. The Columbus kids are by and large going down to Athens for there education to return back to the suburb after graduation and look for a job locally. Unless they are planning to go on to grad school right after college, that is a different story.


I'm not so sure about that. I graduated in 2004 and many of my Athens contemporaries are scattered around the country. In general I think you are probably right if cost isn't a factor. If you're a tech guy, then perhaps you should just take the plunge and go to school at Cal Tech, Berkeley or some other west coast school if you want to end up in Silicon Valley. But really, how many 17 year old kids actually think like this :)


I get your point, but I'm still going to make a shameless plug about my hometown. 

http://images.businessweek.com/slideshows/20110801/cities-with-the-biggest-growth-in-tech-jobs/slides/11


Cities with the Biggest Growth in Tech Jobs

No. 1 Cleveland

Growth: 107 percent
Companies hiring: IBM, Deloitte & Touche
Skills needed: Systems integration, software engineering, project management

 



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   Posted: 8/5/2011 3:29:58 PM 
This also seems heavily weighted toward using money (salary) as the prime criteria of success in life.  This is subjective and some would disagree. 
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   Posted: 8/5/2011 4:10:46 PM 
Paul Graham wrote:
Uncle Wes wrote:

I'm ignoring the cost factor in the equation. Assuming money and special job preparation is not an issue, I would look at where you want to live. You've also have to think of dating here. Often you find who you are going to marry in college. They may want to stay locally when they graduate. In-state schools are geared toward landing a job in one of the cities in that state. The Columbus kids are by and large going down to Athens for there education to return back to the suburb after graduation and look for a job locally. Unless they are planning to go on to grad school right after college, that is a different story.


I'm not so sure about that. I graduated in 2004 and many of my Athens contemporaries are scattered around the country. In general I think you are probably right if cost isn't a factor. If you're a tech guy, then perhaps you should just take the plunge and go to school at Cal Tech, Berkeley or some other west coast school if you want to end up in Silicon Valley. But really, how many 17 year old kids actually think like this :)


The tech jobs aren't really concentrated in Ohio. Its the big city markets that drive demand. The pay is often 2 times higher for solution architects with plenty of companies to choose from. Then its a cost of living vs. nowhere worth living comparison. I could see going out west for more recreation as appealing. The state of Ohio has a negative reputation the further you move away from it. Ohioans tend to be very die hard into sports and drinking which is not considered cool by liberal east/west coasters who tend to be fitness freaks. Ohioans tend to raise kids in the suburbs fearful of more ethnic areas and they follow that pattern when they move to your state. Going to school in Ohio is not going to help you to adjust to living on the coasts. 

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   Posted: 8/5/2011 4:51:52 PM 
Uncle Wes wrote:

The tech jobs aren't really concentrated in Ohio. Its the big city markets that drive demand. The pay is often 2 times higher for solution architects with plenty of companies to choose from. Then its a cost of living vs. nowhere worth living comparison. I could see going out west for more recreation as appealing. The state of Ohio has a negative reputation the further you move away from it. Ohioans tend to be very die hard into sports and drinking which is not considered cool by liberal east/west coasters who tend to be fitness freaks. Ohioans tend to raise kids in the suburbs fearful of more ethnic areas and they follow that pattern when they move to your state. Going to school in Ohio is not going to help you to adjust to living on the coasts. 


Wow, there's a lot of generalization going on here. First off, people drink beer EVERYWHERE. Perhaps the best place to get a beer in the country is an uber-liberal, west coast town: Portland. 

I would also say that if an Ohioan leaves Ohio for a big city, chances are it's because they don't want to live in a suburb. And I think Athens would prepare someone for living in a city quite nicely. There is a lot of culture, it's loud and you have to walk everywhere 
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   Posted: 8/5/2011 5:01:03 PM 
Jeff McKinney wrote:
This also seems heavily weighted toward using money (salary) as the prime criteria of success in life.  This is subjective and some would disagree. 


The success measures are more in regards to mobility (Third World vs. Western), education (PhD vs. JD), and the challenge level of your athletic activities (Triathlon vs. Marathon). Material items are passe. Its a hyper self celf centered, self indulgent attitude. The world ends and begins around YOU! (I am the Alpha and the Omega). Seriously, none of us are here on thie earth indefinitely. Life shouldn't be about maximizing your individual performance as much as enjoying the time that you hsve. Doing what you excel at and what you love. If you can take something positive out what others are doing that is great.

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   Posted: 8/5/2011 5:39:51 PM 
DelBobcat wrote:
Factors that go into Forbes' rankings:

No. 1: Student Satisfaction (27.5%)
Student Evaluations from RateMyProfessor.com (17.5%)
Freshman-to-Sophomore Retention Rates (5%)
Student Evaluations from MyPlan.com (5%)

No. 2: Postgraduate Success (30%)
Salary of Alumni from Payscale.com (15%)
Listings of Alumni in Who's Who in America (10%)
Alumni in Forbes/CCAP Corporate Officers List (5%)

No. 3: Student Debt (17.5%)
Four-year Debt Load for Typical Student Borrower (12.5%)
Student Loan Default Rates (5%)

No. 4: Four-year Graduation Rate (17.5%)
Actual Four-year Graduation Rate (8.75%)
Predicted vs. Actual Four-year Graduation Rate (8.75%)

No. 5: Competitive Awards (7.5%)
Student Nationally Competitive Awards (7.5%)



What I have in bold, italics, and underlined is all that needs to be said.   These are voluntary and should not be associated with any rankings, let alone worth 32.5%.

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   Posted: 8/5/2011 5:50:18 PM 
Paul Graham wrote:
Uncle Wes wrote:

The tech jobs aren't really concentrated in Ohio. Its the big city markets that drive demand. The pay is often 2 times higher for solution architects with plenty of companies to choose from. Then its a cost of living vs. nowhere worth living comparison. I could see going out west for more recreation as appealing. The state of Ohio has a negative reputation the further you move away from it. Ohioans tend to be very die hard into sports and drinking which is not considered cool by liberal east/west coasters who tend to be fitness freaks. Ohioans tend to raise kids in the suburbs fearful of more ethnic areas and they follow that pattern when they move to your state. Going to school in Ohio is not going to help you to adjust to living on the coasts. 


Wow, there's a lot of generalization going on here. First off, people drink beer EVERYWHERE. Perhaps the best place to get a beer in the country is an uber-liberal, west coast town: Portland. 

I would also say that if an Ohioan leaves Ohio for a big city, chances are it's because they don't want to live in a suburb. And I think Athens would prepare someone for living in a city quite nicely. There is a lot of culture, it's loud and you have to walk everywhere 


My comments are voiced through the lens of the haute culture. Portland I do not know how I feel about that town. The haute culture way of doing things is to split a bottle of wine when having lunch with friends on a Saturday afternoon. It's drinking, its dependency but its not like the case of beer every Saturday kind of drinking that goes on in the Midwest. Its a good point on the walkability of Athens preparing someone for a walkable urban environment. Do the students by and large "get it" as pseduo-urban living?  I say 25% does, the remainder views it as a drinking outpost.   

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   Posted: 8/5/2011 10:47:32 PM 
Jeff McKinney wrote:
This also seems heavily weighted toward using money (salary) as the prime criteria of success in life.  This is subjective and some would disagree. 


In fact, the university's most well-known acadmic program is journalism, a profession that doesn't pay very well.

Certainly, this factor is going to give a higher rating to schools that specialize in fields that are higher paying.
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   Posted: 8/6/2011 12:55:43 AM 
Uncle Wes wrote:
anorris wrote:
Uncle Wes wrote:
If you don't want to live in Ohio why go to college there? If you want to live in LA even if where you go is a minor college empolyers will be familiar with it.  
Dollar bills.  I'm from Ohio, thus going to school in Ohio (at a school with a great program for my profession) was the most economically sound decision.

And to be honest, the school's reputation didn't matter a bit in getting me my job -- what really mattered was the volunteer work I'd done, and experience and knowledge I had in the field from outside the classroom, which would not have been available to me elsewhere in the state.


I'm ignoring the cost factor in the equation. Assuming money and special job preparation is not an issue, I would look at where you want to live. You've also have to think of dating here. Often you find who you are going to marry in college. They may want to stay locally when they graduate. In-state schools are geared toward landing a job in one of the cities in that state. The Columbus kids are by and large going down to Athens for there education to return back to the suburb after graduation and look for a job locally. Unless they are planning to go on to grad school right after college, that is a different story.
I guess I can't think of two factors more important in choosing a college than money and job prep.

Our journalism/communication school would have roughly 1-2 students per year if they were planning on staying in Athens, maybe a couple dozen if they planned to stay in Ohio.  I guess perhaps this is more true in more traditional fields like business or education, but I feel like for our stronger, better recognized programs, the intentions of the students are more widespread.  Of the young alums I've spent time with at school, far more are working outside Ohio than in it.
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   Posted: 8/6/2011 1:25:42 AM 
anorris wrote:
Our journalism/communication school would have roughly 1-2 students per year if they were planning on staying in Athens, maybe a couple dozen if they planned to stay in Ohio.  I guess perhaps this is more true in more traditional fields like business or education, but I feel like for our stronger, better recognized programs, the intentions of the students are more widespread.  Of the young alums I've spent time with at school, far more are working outside Ohio than in it.


I totally agree with that. I came to OU for journalism because I want to make it in my field and cover a professional sports team when I graduate no matter where it is located. People in Scripps come to OU from all over the country and most of them will go to whatever places they can find a job afterwards no matter where it is. 

Sure, some will stay in Ohio, but I agree with anorris, the intentions most of the time aren't necessarily to stay locally. Most of the time, it is just to save money or because they didn't want to be too far away from home while in college.


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   Posted: 8/6/2011 2:13:29 PM 
Uncle Wes wrote:
Jeff McKinney wrote:
This also seems heavily weighted toward using money (salary) as the prime criteria of success in life.  This is subjective and some would disagree. 


The success measures are more in regards to mobility (Third World vs. Western), education (PhD vs. JD), and the challenge level of your athletic activities (Triathlon vs. Marathon). Material items are passe. Its a hyper self celf centered, self indulgent attitude. The world ends and begins around YOU! (I am the Alpha and the Omega). Seriously, none of us are here on thie earth indefinitely. Life shouldn't be about maximizing your individual performance as much as enjoying the time that you hsve. Doing what you excel at and what you love. If you can take something positive out what others are doing that is great.



Also, maybe you could throw in there leaving the world a better place than you found it, and investing your resources of time and money in helping others.  I know lots of OU grads in our region who are either teaching or practicing social work, not getting paid a lot, but they believe they are making a contribution to their communities and they're reasonably content. 

(Of course, one could then argue that getting into a high paying profession and investing wisely would position a person to invest more resources in helping others.)

Wow...I guess balance is the key word.  I believe that OU alumni, taken as an aggregate, strike a good balance on all these issues. 
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   Posted: 8/6/2011 4:33:11 PM 
Well, I've sufficiently horrified my Bronco graduate fiancee for the day. 

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   Posted: 8/7/2011 12:03:56 AM 
This thread got me to reflecting on some of my more memorable teachers.  Bear with me as I comment and consider the following as an overdue public salute.

St. Mary's: Sister Michael Ann.  Was my teacher in 5th grade, as I recall.  This Franciscan brought good humour and verve to her teaching.  Taught Ohio history in a way that might have launched my lifelong interest in history.

Shelby HIgh School.  Mel John.  Had him twice for algebra and advanced algebra.  Taught with a remarkable combination of patience and wit.  His Christmas card to students was a series of equations, the answers to which revealed his holiday greeting.  Dora Summer. Had her for two years of Latin.  I credit her teaching for enabling me to pretty much figure things out in any country using a Romance language. 

OU.  Leslie Sargent.  Taught a course called Contemporary Thought & Development.  Required us to do research and write under deadlines.  His detailed editing and annotating made us more thoughtful and better writers.

Marshall Law at Cleveland State.  Hymen Cohen.  Taught torts.  Was a master of the Socratic method.  Encouraged debate and disagreement.

Stanford Graduate School of Business.  Robert Burgelman.  Taught corporate strategy.  Was absolutely electric in the classroom; awesome combination of intellectual and physical energy.  George Parker.  Taught finance with incomparable wit and self-deprecating humor.  Jim Lattin.  Taught marketing.  Actively solicited lessons FROM his students. 

U.S. Army.  Colonel Walter Moore.  Man of great decency.  Didn't hesitate to publicly recognize superior performanc.e.  Cared for his people and those of Korea where he was serving. 

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   Posted: 8/7/2011 12:17:27 AM 
Jeff McKinney wrote:
This also seems heavily weighted toward using money (salary) as the prime criteria of success in life.  This is subjective and some would disagree. 


My new job pays me considerably worse than my previous one -- in fact, I'm making what I made ten years ago as a 21-year-old first-year instructor. 

I also work about 4x as many hours.

I also enjoy my job now more than my previous one to an order of magnitude that is not quantifiable. Furthermore, my public image/reputation/people who know who I am is enormously larger as a result of my new career.

Money ain't everything.

(incidentally my new career is the one Ohio University prepared me for, insofar as I am working in the profession that was my major -- obviously the corpus of my undergraduate coursework contributed to my previous academic career.)

Last Edited: 8/7/2011 12:19:38 AM by Tim Burke

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  Message Not Read  RE: OT: 2011-2012 Acedimic rankings
   Posted: 8/7/2011 1:08:28 PM 
Ratemyprofessor.com??? That's all I need to know about these rankings. If that is one of your major criteria, you have no idea what you're talking about.
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