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Author Message Kinggeorge4 General User Member Since: 12/22/2004 Location: Guysville, OH Post Count: 1,052 Status: Offline     BCS conferences leave the NCAA?    Posted: 10/19/2011 1:00:22 PM  Interesting thought: http://eye-on-college-basketball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/26283066/32814620 GO BOBCATS GEORGE Back to Top Ohio69 General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 3,062 Status: Offline     RE: BCS conferences leave the NCAA?    Posted: 10/19/2011 1:20:44 PM  There are several law suits winding through courts that the NCAA will likely lose and which will send them running to Congress for help.  Congress can protect them but will want some things in return, like the BCS schools not splitting from the NCAA I assume. Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?..... Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,777 Status: Offline     RE: BCS conferences leave the NCAA?    Posted: 10/19/2011 4:51:31 PM  An individual conference or small group of schools could bolt the NCAA, but if all the BCS schools left as a group you'd see anti-trust action against the BCS -- probably starting in the Senate Judiciary Committee.  If all FBS schools left the NCAA together that would probably have less anti-trust implications.  Congress has a vested interest in this issue having been a party -- along with President Teddy Roosevelt -- to the founding of the NCAA for the purposes of saving football when it was on the verge of being banned because of the number injuries and deaths that were occurring on the gridiron of that day.  A decade before this attempt to ban football, the death of Ralph O'Bleness, Ohio QB, and brother of Charles G. O'Bleness, during a practice before a scheduled game with WVU in 1898 made national headlines and was cited as evidence by both pro- and anti-football partisans.   Last Edited: 10/19/2011 7:01:35 PM by OhioCatFan The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top TWT General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 5,208 Status: Offline     RE: BCS conferences leave the NCAA?    Posted: 10/19/2011 6:17:46 PM  Kinggeorge4 (George Cheripko) wrote: Interesting thought: http://eye-on-college-basketball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/26283066/32814620 Coach K. is mouthing off. When conference commissioners and BCS bowl executives start talking about proposals to leave the NCAA then I would start to worry. Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended 2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round 2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl 2015 34-3 drubbing of Miami @ Peden front of 25,086 Back to Top TWT General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 5,208 Status: Offline     RE: BCS conferences leave the NCAA?    Posted: 10/19/2011 7:05:36 PM  OhioCatFan wrote: A decade before this attempt to ban football, the death of Ralph O'Bleness, Ohio QB, and brother of Charles G. O'Bleness, during a practice before a scheduled game with WVU in 1898 made national headlines and was cited as evidence by both pro- and anti-football partisans.   He died on the spot of what is now Victory Hill and hence forth its cursed. Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended 2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round 2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl 2015 34-3 drubbing of Miami @ Peden front of 25,086 Back to Top Pataskala General User Member Since: 7/8/2010 Location: At least six feet away from anybody else Post Count: 9,365 Status: Offline     RE: BCS conferences leave the NCAA?    Posted: 10/19/2011 7:24:44 PM  I know that Bob Huggins and others have been lobbying that the Big 6 conferences should have a separate b-ball tourneys for Big 6 conferences than the mid- and lower majors.  Don't see that happening any time soon so long as there's a Butler or a Gonzaga lurking out there.  I don't see them bolting the NCAA in football, either.  So long as they can keep on over-signing recruits or can make the coach the fall guy for lack of institutional control, they'll put up with the occasional wrist-slap from the NCAA.  It's perfect cover for legitimacy. We will get by. We will get by. We will get by. We will survive. Back to Top Ohio69 General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 3,062 Status: Offline     RE: BCS conferences leave the NCAA?    Posted: 10/19/2011 7:45:04 PM  Uncle Wes wrote: OhioCatFan wrote: A decade before this attempt to ban football, the death of Ralph O'Bleness, Ohio QB, and brother of Charles G. O'Bleness, during a practice before a scheduled game with WVU in 1898 made national headlines and was cited as evidence by both pro- and anti-football partisans.   He died on the spot of what is now Victory Hill and hence forth its cursed. I hereby call on Ralph O'Bleness' spirit to life the Bobcats instead of curse them.  (Quick, someone spin around 3 times and then sacrifice a chicken.) Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?..... Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,777 Status: Offline     RE: BCS conferences leave the NCAA?    Posted: 10/19/2011 8:52:43 PM  I'm not sure about this, Wes, but I think the field might have been where Porter Hall now is.  In my youth it was the Ohio baseball field, and I was told by old timers that it had been used for football.  I've also heard that the first football field was behind where McCracken Hall now is, where the old high school football stadium was in my day.  Perhaps, I can get Doug McCabe at the Alden archives investigating this burning question.  Of course this happened during a practice, so maybe it was in the old IPF, which I believe was in a large barn on the Slaughter farm on the top of what is now Second Street.   BTW, they went ahead and played the game with WVU in Parkersburg and lost 16-0, the previous year Ohio had won in Athens 12-0.  Even back then having a good QB was apparently important. Edit: Uncle Wes and Ohio69, hey, if Notre Dame can motivate players to "Win one for the Gipper," why can't Ohio occasionally "win one for Ralph"?  Maybe we need to give him a more catchy nickname. "Win one for The Blenny?"  Or, how about "Win one for the Chrysthanthemums"?  That's what the team was sometimes called then; it was way before the Bobcat mascot was chosen.  Last Edited: 10/20/2011 12:18:55 AM by OhioCatFan The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top Bleed Green & White General User Member Since: 12/27/2004 Location: Driving on US 33 Post Count: 164 Status: Offline     RE: BCS conferences leave the NCAA?    Posted: 10/19/2011 11:52:29 PM  OhioCatFan wrote: I'm not sure about this, Wes, but I think the field might have been where Porter Hall now is.  In my youth it was the Ohio baseball field, and I was told by old timers that it had been used for football.  I've also heard that the first football field was behind where McCracken Hall now is, where the old high school football stadium was in my day.  Perhaps, I can get Doug McCabe at the Alden archives investigating this burning question.  Of course this happened during a practice, so maybe it was in the old IPF, which I believe was in a large barn on the Slaughter farm on the top of what is now Second Street.   BTW, they went ahead and played the game with WVU in Parkersburg and lost 14-0, the previous year Ohio had won in Athens 12-0.  Even back then having a good QB was apparently important. Edit: Uncle Wes and Ohio69, hey, if Notre Dame can motivate players to "Win one for the Gipper," why can't Ohio occasionally "win one for Ralph"?  Maybe we need to give him a more catchy nickname. "Win one for The Blenny?"  Or, how about "Win one for the Chrysthanthemums"?  That's what the team was sometimes called then; it was way before the Bobcat mascot was chosen.  OCF: You always provide these gems that only Bobcat Attack posters will appreciate.  Love it! "we are bound to win the fray..." Don't let anyone block your pride. BSC '06 Back to Top Jeff McKinney Moderator Member Since: 11/12/2004 Post Count: 6,155 Status: Offline     RE: BCS conferences leave the NCAA?    Posted: 10/20/2011 6:05:55 PM  You may figure out a way to trump O'Bleness's curse, but you'll have a harder time dealing with Cornstalk's. Back to Top C Money General User Member Since: 8/28/2010 Post Count: 3,420 Status: Offline     RE: BCS conferences leave the NCAA?    Posted: 10/20/2011 6:59:55 PM  Jeff McKinney wrote: You may figure out a way to trump O'Bleness's curse, but you'll have a harder time dealing with Cornstalk's. MOTHMAN LIVES!!! Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,777 Status: Offline     RE: BCS conferences leave the NCAA?    Posted: 10/20/2011 11:51:21 PM  Jeff McKinney wrote: You may figure out a way to trump O'Bleness's curse, but you'll have a harder time dealing with Cornstalk's. It's not a curse, it's a motivational story.  Win one for The Blenny! As for Cornstalk, his big battle was over there in West Virginia, so we'll let Pt. Pleasant High School deal with that one. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top Jeff McKinney Moderator Member Since: 11/12/2004 Post Count: 6,155 Status: Offline     RE: BCS conferences leave the NCAA?    Posted: 10/21/2011 10:41:31 AM  Cornstalk included all of the mid-Ohio valley and Tecumseh has the rest of southern Ohio covered.  Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,777 Status: Offline     RE: BCS conferences leave the NCAA?    Posted: 10/21/2011 11:38:56 AM  Fist, he was murdered in Pt. Pleasant, and according to the ever semi-accurate wikipedia: Cornstalk was originally buried at Fort Randolph; in 1840 his grave was found and the remains moved to the Mason County Courthouse grounds; when in 1954 the courthouse was torn down he was reburied in Point Pleasant. Legends arose about his dying "curse" being the cause of misfortunes in the area (later supplanted by local "mothman" stories), though no contemporary historical source mentions any such utterance by Cornstalk. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top Big Willy General User Member Since: 12/29/2004 Post Count: 195 Status: Offline     RE: BCS conferences leave the NCAA?    Posted: 10/21/2011 4:06:33 PM  Pataskala wrote: ]I know that Bob Huggins and others have been lobbying that the Big 6 conferences should have a separate b-ball tourneys for Big 6 conferences than the mid- and lower majors.  Huggy is just tired of mighty Big East teams like Georgetown, Villanova, Louisville, Pittsburgh, and West Virginia getting knocked off in the NCAA Tourney by "little guys" like OU, VCU, George Mason, Morehead State, Butler, and Dayton. 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