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Topic: How do ya"ll feel about the C-USA/MWC meger?

Topic: How do ya"ll feel about the C-USA/MWC meger?

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EagleDon
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How do ya"ll feel about the C-USA/MWC meger?

Posted: 2/16/2012 9:36:36 AM

I saw that an Ohio school is mentioned. as a possibility into the merger. Would ya"ll consider this? I am kind of interested in this. I met some good Ohio people at the USM/Ohio game in Mobile serveral years ago.

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Posted: 2/16/2012 10:13:17 AM

Personally, I'd be against it. I don't think it wouldn't be much, if any, upgrade in competitiveness as a whole and it would be a lotmore expensive for travel. Right now, basically all of the trips in the MAC are eight hour drives or less and within the division, they are all basically 3 1/2 hours or less. Marshall obviously would be a short trip but the rest of the trips all would be longer than any current trip in the MAC. It just doesn't make sense, in my opinion.

Last Edited: 2/16/2012 10:35:35 AM by UpSan Bobcat

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RE: How do ya"ll feel about the C-USA/MWC meger?

Posted: 2/16/2012 10:22:08 AM

I would consider it a lateral move for Ohio.

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Posted: 2/16/2012 11:04:13 AM

I would honestly become less interested in Ohio athletics. The MAC isn't great, but it's fun because of the rivalries and familiarities. I just can't see myself getting riled up for Rice.

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Posted: 2/16/2012 11:08:00 AM

There are very few schools that have any compelling argument to play the national schedule that MWCUSA calls for.

We are among the least of them.

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Posted: 2/16/2012 11:59:44 AM

Just take a look at the results Marshall's experienced or poll their fan base. Not a good move until you have all the components in place...

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Posted: 2/16/2012 12:23:35 PM

If it's a package deal with at least 3 other MAC teams, I'm willing to talk. Until then, thanks but no thanks.

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Posted: 2/16/2012 12:34:49 PM

With about everyone here. Don't really see it as a step up in any way (any programs of substantial worth from those conference have been cherry picked already), and it would trash rivalries and the ability to drive to many games. I got to see 9 of 13 games in person my senior year, and the 10th had a schedule conflict, it was actually the closest road game we played. That kind of thing simply won't happen in this kind of arrangement.

Additionally, being able to watch 12 of 14 games on television from afar in CT this season was huge for me. With the combined contracts of these conferences, there's no way we get that kind of exposure, and even games that are televised are relegated to CBS Sports Network, which nobody gets, or FSN regional status, most of which will get preempted in a good portion of the country in favor of local teams.

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Posted: 2/16/2012 1:34:30 PM

I honestly believe the MAC is one of the most stable conferences right now. The new C-USA/MWC merger will likely end in a bitter break up in ten years or so with each member school having to go through another mess down the road.

Hanging in there!

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Posted: 2/16/2012 2:44:28 PM

anorris wrote:

I couldn't agree more with Anorris. For whatever reason, Ohio's ability to have 5-6 games prominently shown on either ESPN or ESPN2 was HUGE for us (together with the 110's viral LMFAO cover!) and I'm not sure we could get that kind of exposure in a larger conference that's basically on our level anyway, maybe slightly higher. I like the MAC. While in my heart I'm with Bobcat Love about how Ohio should achieve to be in a higher league, given the state of disrepair that the infrastructure of the University's in (have you walked on the elevated walkways of South Green lately or seen the absolute lack of landscaping anywhere on campus?) Ohio's got far more pressing needs financially IMHO than trying to join the suicidal arms race that major college football's become.

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Posted: 2/16/2012 4:12:43 PM

I'm pretty neutral about the move. If it happens, that's cool. I feel like the only real intense rivalry we have that are shared on both sides is Marshall. about 90% of miami fans just don't give 2 cents about anything except THIER ALL MIGHTY HOCKEY TEAM, and the our biggest rival after Miami right now is Temple, and they're not a stone's throw away.

But If we do move, then all of our historical opponents would be left in the MAC.

What would really push me over the edge would be if a trio (or so) of MAC teams moves along with us, like what C Money said, then I would be more willing to head over to this new conference. But right now, I'm pretty neutral, like I said.

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Posted: 2/16/2012 6:45:00 PM

The money involved is heads and shoulders above the money afforded to the teams in the MAC. With that comes higher travel costs though. A new TV deal will be worked out with the new conference and who knows which network will win the deal.

In all seriousness, and no smack talk with this statement either, Ohio University would seriously need to invest in their football facilities. The seating, concourse area, legroom, and scoreboard are horrendous. Great tailgating areas though. I would love to see ya'll join a conference with us again.

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Posted: 2/16/2012 7:26:13 PM

EagleDon wrote:

I guess my question to you, ED, is after 16 years in CUSA, do y'all feel any sense of cohesion with the other teams in your league? About half the teams have been there for only six years, so I'm wondering if any real rivalries have developed. I get the impression from Terd fans that they really don't get excited about much of anybody except maybe ECU. Southern Miss is pretty centrally located for CUSA; it's fairly close to Tulane, UAB and Memphis so I would guess you have something going there, but how about the teams on the edges?

The MAC is a pretty close-knit bunch. Nine of the 12 all-sports teams have been in the MAC continuously since at least 1972. The rivalries are pretty-well established and can be fairly intense. There's a comfort level and a convenience level with the MAC that would need a REALLY sweet deal to overcome. To quote the Tommy James song, "We ain't got much but what we've got's ours."

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RE: How do ya"ll feel about the C-USA/MWC meger?

Posted: 2/16/2012 7:48:43 PM

C Money wrote:

If it's a package deal with at least 3 other MAC teams, I'm willing to talk. Until then, thanks but no thanks.

This would be a key for me. If we went in with some of our current mates in a division that was eastern time zone oriented, I think it might be a good move for us. The TV revenues, as I understand it, are quite a bit more in C-USA, so I think this move would not be a financial burden, in fact, it might help balance the athletic budget. I would not be for being the lone current member of the MAC to join C-USA. If we have three current MAC members, plus Marshall, it might just work for our benefit with a number of easy-to-get-to games. I'd also want a guarantee that we'd have a minimal number of cross-over games to Texas and points west each year. I personally think the "merger" will die before it's born, so I'm really talking about a revamped C-USA.

Last Edited: 2/16/2012 7:51:13 PM by OhioCatFan

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RE: How do ya"ll feel about the C-USA/MWC meger?

Posted: 2/17/2012 9:19:35 AM

mckayt wrote:

I would agree with most of this. Marshall, in my opinion, had by far the most outstanding football facility in the MAC at the time of their most recent membership so I am sure their additional upgrades were rather minimal for their transition to C-USA. I love Peden but it could use some improvements. The good news is we could do this without the same level of financial resources some other stadiums in the MAC would need. We have a great shell, heck a great stadium for watching the game. It is the under the grandstands (concessions, restrooms, etc.) that are really lacking.

Last Edited: 2/17/2012 9:20:01 AM by OUcats82

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RE: How do ya"ll feel about the C-USA/MWC meger?

Posted: 2/17/2012 9:56:14 AM

OUcats82 wrote:

mckayt wrote:

No pun intended, but this is the million dollar question: where do we get the $ to make in my opinion much needed improvements to Peden Stadium? The Walthers just donated $8 million to kick start the construction of a multipurpose center and Ohio is still having trouble getting the last amount of funds needed to finish that project. Peden Stadium is a nice little stadium that's really showing its age and in today's major college football scene it's smalltime.

As a Bobcatattacker mentioned in the Basketball threads, Akron is now considering building a new arena-where are they getting the $ to do this? Ohio can't finish off the funding for an IPF and Akron just keeps building and building and building. Go figure.

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Posted: 2/17/2012 10:07:50 AM

we'd be the small fish in a big pond, and that usually does not work out well in college athletics...

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Posted: 2/17/2012 11:09:08 AM

Looks to me like Akron wants to be ready to make a move to "the next level" whenever the opportunity comes around. I do think Marshal and ECU make the most sense for the MAC to expand to if it wants to upgrade football. If not, I am all for going to 12 FB conference to improve. Just go back 10 years and get rid of the bottom dwellers! Add someone at the top.

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Posted: 2/17/2012 11:46:06 AM

I'm surprised the Big East didn't go after ECU. ECU has great facilities, a 50,000 seat football stadium and a pretty good fanbase. ECU's achilles heel maybe hoops as far as the Big East is concerned. But in football ECU would be able to hold their own against them.

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Posted: 2/17/2012 1:03:53 PM

brucecuth wrote:

we'd be the small fish in a big pond, and that usually does not work out well in college athletics...

Well, as things appear to be developing regarding the NCAA, conference realignments, championship opportunities, etc...

I'd rather be IN THE FREAKING POND...

As it is now, I don't feel like the MAC is even a puddle beside the pond, and that attitude shows up in so many different ways...

How many LO-DEF MELT YOUR EYES basketball telecasts do I need to watch?

It's crappy looking on my 5" phone screen; it's god awful on my 72" TV....

Things are never lo-def on the Big10 network; not even wrestling.

-john

Last Edited: 2/17/2012 1:04:14 PM by oucs 1986

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Posted: 2/17/2012 8:32:13 PM

Mark Lembright '85 wrote:

No TV market (#99) and little name recognition outside NC. The Big Least is all about TV.

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Posted: 2/17/2012 11:44:49 PM

ML85, Akron keeps on building because the powers that be at Akron apparently have the guts to do what we will not do. They spend the money. We plan on building an IPF with totally donated funds and are short, but we do not have the b@!!s to spend the money while at the same time feel a need to build a facility that "all of the university can use". If we are building for the entire university and not just the athletic department, then the university can and should pony-up all the $$$. If the Athens community wants a piece of the action, they too can ante-up. Otherwise, take a hike! It was just a few months ago that the university was talking about spending something like $997,000,000.00 for building upgrades with none of that money going to athletics. Why not tap into that money as well?

We play in a joke of a conference and a lot of the posters on here seem to love going nowhere fast. If everyone is that concerned about the $$$ and staying where we are, why not drop athletics to D-III across the board and join the OAC. Then we would be spending next to nothing, and think of all the great rivalries. I could see our student body traveling in mass to either New Concord or Marietta. And while we are at it, we can really save $$$ by tearing down the Convo and making a deal with Athens High to use their gym. That way we would be on par with the rest of the OAC.

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Posted: 2/18/2012 12:49:39 AM

OUcats82 wrote:

mckayt wrote:

Marshall will be breaking ground this Spring on a new $29 Million indoor practice facility / sports athletic facility.

http://www.herald-dispatch.com/news/briefs/x873827386/Gallery-Proposed-MU-athletic-facilities

Also, since joining CUSA, The Herd has built a new softball stadium:

http://www.marshall.edu/campus/virtualtour.asp?id=37

And a state of the art recreation center:

http://www.marshallcampusrec.com/index.php?ht=d/sp/i/17958/pid/17958

Facilities are the key to recruitment of students as well as student athletes. I have always thought of Ohio University as an elite educational institution and I'm not understanding the lack of funding that you guys speak of.

Also, some OU fans on here have stated that the new merged conference would be a lateral move. Trust me, this would not be a lateral move from a financial or competitive standpoint. Also, I do know that OU handed The Herd their ass this past year, LOL. But check out the facilities, the attendance numbers, and the financial standings of the members in this merged conference and you will see that this would not be a lateral move at all.

I dig the longstanding rivalry issue though. With all that said, if the administration and the fans are unwilling to financially support progress, then smalltime is where you need to stay.

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Posted: 2/18/2012 9:52:18 AM

ou79 wrote:

You may indeed be right (I hope your right because Ohio really needs it) and I know it has been discussed by the powers that be, but I believe Ohio University will spend a billion dollars on infrastructure construction when I see it. Cleveland's building in interstate highway bridge in the downtown area and now ODOT's telling Cleveland there might not be enough money to finish that project. So I'm not very confident Ohio U's going to be getting a billion dollars any time soon from the State of Ohio for infrastructure purposes.

Last Edited: 2/18/2012 9:55:57 AM by Mark Lembright '85

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Posted: 2/19/2012 12:06:53 AM

Mark Lembright '85 wrote:

There's something wrong with this statement. A city -- not even Cleveland -- builds interstate highways or their bridges. These are built by the state government with a 90-10 federal-state match. The state hires the contractors that do the work. I wonder if the bridge you are talking about is the one that Cleveland wanted stimulus money for but that Gov. Strickland sent to Athens County for the Nelsonville Bypass. Strickland earmarked some stimulus funds of a Cleveland project, but some in Cleveland were upset that they didn't get both of their local pork projects funded. The one not funded, as I recall, was a bridge. Could this be the bridge you are referring to? All I can say, is "thank you, Governor Strickland!

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