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LoganElm_grad09
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New MAC East Nemesis?

Posted: 4/4/2012 10:19:14 AM

New MAC East Nemesis?

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The past few years, Temple has been the pivotal game to go to the MAC championship (sans the Kent State mess on Black Friday a couple years ago). With them gone, who will be our biggest opponent to get to Detroit?

All of this assuming we continue our success, of course.

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Posted: 4/4/2012 9:42:56 PM

For the short term I expect Kent and BGSUcks being our "nemesis." Fiami will always be the main rival, but they may still be a year or two off from being a real threat. Akron may actually be a bigger "nemesis" if Bowden does a Solich. UMass won't bring the same attitude as Temps; they've never been a "big time" football program, so they won't have a better-than-thou attitude for five or six years anyway. At the risk of jinxing things, looking at the other programs in the East, Ohio could have two or three relatively easy years.

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RE: New MAC East Nemesis?

Posted: 4/4/2012 10:52:54 PM

Obviously Akron will have massive improvement this year, but it will take a few years for even a good coach to get them from where they were to where Ohio is. Solich has a 7 year head start, and Knorr was a better coach than iCoach, who really took the Akron program the wrong direction (despite having malls).

As for the others, Kent had a pretty good coach, but even he couldn't get over the hump, and now they are starting over, so I doubt they will be competitive any more. Buffalo? They will be OK, I guess. U. Mass may become competitive, but I don't think they start out that way. Miami is a merry go round for coaches, but there will be some years they are competitive, so I went with them. BG also has a decent chance of being the most difficult rival, as they have a good coach, and more coaching stability.

Ohio probably won't win every year, but I'd guess that over the next 5 years they have the best winning percentage in the East.

Last Edited: 4/4/2012 10:54:01 PM by L.C.

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RE: New MAC East Nemesis?

Posted: 4/5/2012 3:28:53 PM

Not a fair fight. It's M^%$#, now and forever.

Temple wasn't our nemesis, they were a whiny two year old who missed her nap.

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RE: New MAC East Nemesis?

Posted: 4/5/2012 4:56:22 PM

Fiami will always be our rival, there will be no taking that away. But they haven't been as big of a game as Temps the past few years, with the championship being on the line vs. them. We seemed to play Temple better than a lot of other teams (KENT

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My guess is going to be Akron. Top notch football stadium, a coach who has been on the big time. May be like basketball where the MAC championship game rests on us vs. them (well, in football just to get there, but I digress...)

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RE: New MAC East Nemesis?

Posted: 4/6/2012 10:25:58 PM

Bowden will go for the quickest fix possible at Akron. He's not interested in building a program like Solich has. He wants to win as quickly as possible so he can get back in a BCS league before he gets too old. Will be very interesting to see who he brings in.

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RE: New MAC East Nemesis?

Posted: 4/7/2012 12:46:56 AM

The cool thing is that, unlike what would happen at many schools, Solich was given the time to build the program. When 2007 slipped back to 6-6, and 2008 to 4-8, there was some grumbling, but people could see that the program was still making progress. At many schools that would have been the time to change, and 2009-2010-2011 would never have happened. Ohio is a lucky school, and has truly great fans, and they deserve all the successes they have had, and more.

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RE: New MAC East Nemesis?

Posted: 4/7/2012 4:03:30 PM

Agree, wholeheartedly, L.C. that we could see the progress even in those 'step-back' years. As I recall, there were some injuries in those years which hurt those teams. But it was pretty easy to see the spots that needed to be upgraded, the progress of guys who might fill some of those slots, and that we were pretty good at some slots (didn't need a wholesale makeover, just needed a few more players).

Such progress is very much on of the key measurements of a coach's prowesse. I don't recall an undue amouont of griping as Coach Solich built the team. It was visible indeed; we could see the progress.

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RE: New MAC East Nemesis?

Posted: 4/8/2012 4:28:02 PM

at this point I feel like we have seen the enemy and the enemy is us, I don't think we have a nemesis. Maybe I'm still high from flying around in Sweet 16 Land but I look at the MAC East in football and think we should beat every team by 20 pts. With our schedule as a whole anything less than 11-1 going into Detroit will be a disappointment.

in spite of all the great success last year we realistically should have finished 13-1 with a MACC. 13-1 or 14-0 is within reach again this year and we need to grab it, its a critical time with bball stepping up in a big way, let's finish in the top 25 in both sports next year.

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RE: New MAC East Nemesis?

Posted: 4/8/2012 5:00:24 PM

I said Kent State because over the last 10 meetings Ohio is 5-5. Ohio's record over the last 10 against Bowling Green is only 4-6 but that is because the Falcons have been flat out better than Ohio in most of those years. Kent State has just been a pain in the @ss and the Black Friday loss cost the school a division title in 2010.

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RE: New MAC East Nemesis?

Posted: 4/9/2012 11:16:27 AM

Not a MAC East nemesis, but I suspect Marshall will have our game circled heading into the season.

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RE: New MAC East Nemesis?

Posted: 4/9/2012 12:55:27 PM

Robert Fox wrote:

Not a MAC East nemesis, but I suspect Marshall will have our game circled heading into the season.

. . . then claim the opposite after we beat them.

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RE: New MAC East Nemesis?

Posted: 4/9/2012 2:20:02 PM

Robert Fox wrote:

Not a MAC East nemesis, but I suspect Marshall will have our game circled heading into the season.

I think they'll be more worried about the CUSA games, but after the beatdown we gave them in Athens I bet this is pretty high on their list.

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RE: New MAC East Nemesis?

Posted: 4/9/2012 8:12:18 PM

LoganElm_grad09 wrote:

I think they'll be more worried about the CUSA games, but after the beatdown we gave them in Athens I bet this is pretty high on their list.

High enough for them to have special uniforms for that game?

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RE: New MAC East Nemesis?

Posted: 4/10/2012 11:35:54 AM

Probably not. We're a MAC school, unworthy of that much attention to the Mighty Herd. Just revenge.

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RE: New MAC East Nemesis?

Posted: 4/10/2012 2:26:11 PM

I'd say Kent is the big game for 2012, because of it being the last game, and the unpredictability I've seen in us when we play them. Even last year, obviously I'm glad we won, but that was not our prettiest game and it easily could've gone to Kent. This is assuming of course that Miami remains our top rival now and forever...

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RE: New MAC East Nemesis?

Posted: 4/10/2012 6:03:01 PM

I think the problems with Kent were due to Doug Martin, who was a good coach, but he's gone.

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RE: New MAC East Nemesis?

Posted: 4/11/2012 9:33:58 AM

L.C. wrote:

I think the problems with Kent were due to Doug Martin, who was a good coach, but he's gone.

He was gone last year, and we still couldn't get the ball in the endzone.

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RE: New MAC East Nemesis?

Posted: 4/11/2012 12:18:11 PM

Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:

He was gone last year, and we still couldn't get the ball in the endzone.

While it's true that that was Ohio's lowest point output of the year, and it's true that Kent was 3rd behind Temple, it's not like Kent was any threat to win the game against Ohio. Kent had only a bit over 200 yards of total offense, 4 turnovers, and only one long drive. We'll have to see how it goes in the future, I guess.

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