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Valley Cat
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Spring Roster

Posted: 3/27/2012 12:57:32 PM

Usually a rite of Spring. Any idea when we get a look at it?

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RE: Spring Roster

Posted: 3/27/2012 5:46:15 PM

Valley Cat wrote:

Usually a rite of Spring. Any idea when we get a look at it?

Today,

http://www.ohiobobcats.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/ohio-m-footbl-mtt.html

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RE: Spring Roster

Posted: 3/27/2012 6:00:44 PM

Interesting that Kyle Snyder is listed. Bobcatblitz?

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RE: Spring Roster

Posted: 3/27/2012 6:10:26 PM

David Fulcher is also still listed. I thought someone said he was leaving?

Glad, he's still here.

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RE: Spring Roster

Posted: 3/27/2012 7:31:39 PM

D.A. wrote:

Interesting that Kyle Snyder is listed. Bobcatblitz?

Arkley just said he's listed but gone

Buster
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RE: Spring Roster

Posted: 3/27/2012 7:42:37 PM

MFRONE wrote:

D.A. wrote:

Interesting that Kyle Snyder is listed. Bobcatblitz?

Arkley just said he's listed but gone

Ya.. Pretty sure that roster has a lot of mistakes.

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RE: Spring Roster

Posted: 3/27/2012 9:15:54 PM

bigtillyoopsupsideurhead wrote:

David Fulcher is also still listed. I thought someone said he was leaving?

Glad, he's still here.

Fulcher is at a junior college.

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RE: Spring Roster

Posted: 3/27/2012 9:33:06 PM

Many of the guys listed as freshman (Crutcher-Fisher) are really sophomores since they played as true freshman.

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RE: Spring Roster

Posted: 3/28/2012 3:10:21 PM

Doc Bobcat wrote:

Many of the guys listed as freshman (Crutcher-Fisher) are really sophomores since they played as true freshman.

Doc, aren't they all listed in terms of their current-year status (rather than what they will be in Fall 2012)?

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RE: Spring Roster

Posted: 3/28/2012 3:41:09 PM

Cat4ever wrote:

Doc Bobcat wrote:

Many of the guys listed as freshman (Crutcher-Fisher) are really sophomores since they played as true freshman.

Doc, aren't they all listed in terms of their current-year status (rather than what they will be in Fall 2012)?

Not Doc, though you seem to be right. Class not projected, and more important to me is the ht./wt. information. Can we figure out if these are spring numbers?

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RE: Spring Roster

Posted: 3/28/2012 4:11:06 PM

Gonna be brutally honest guys...I put no salt in any roster that Ohio puts out right now..cant even respect the heights and weights..wow..hopefully the right guys will be on the field come game day.

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RE: Spring Roster

Posted: 3/28/2012 6:34:36 PM

Remember that the athletic budget is small, and they don't have the staff to keep everything up at the same time. There has been a lot of focus lately on basketball, for some reason.

You have to go back to 2008 to find the last time they updated the heights and weights in the Spring, this isn't unusual. In 2008 they didn't even update the weights in the fall. I'm not really worried about that - we don't really need to know the weights, anyway. They also, for whatever reason, never seem to issue a Spring depth chart, which is something we, as fans, would love to see.

My hope they can get the players that are gone off the list, and get the new walkons onto the list, plus they should get the classes right. I think that's a reasonable expectation for the Spring roster.

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RE: Spring Roster

Posted: 3/28/2012 10:07:38 PM

Yeah your right the way these kids grow thats not realistic. At least have OUr guys correct tho.

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RE: Spring Roster

Posted: 3/28/2012 10:51:21 PM

I'm sure the kids weigh in before they start winter conditioning, and at the end of it, and many other times a year like the start of spring and fall camps, so it's not like the data isn't there. Sure, if the athletic department had a much bigger budget they could update the weights 3-4 time a year, and some schools do. But really, does that really help us as fans? So long as the staff has current data, that's what matters. As fans, just tell us who is going to be practicing with the team this Spring, and most of us will be happy.

As people have mentioned, Snyder and Fulcher are included on the list, and shouldn't be. Most springs we have seen an influx of new walkons trying out, but as it stands at the moment, there aren't any new names on the spring roster. Then there are people that are listed in the eDirectory that we were expecting on the Spring roster, but who aren't listed:
Grant Venham - Punter
Tim Edmond - LB
Brian Albrecht - DE/WR

Last Edited: 3/29/2012 9:45:55 AM by L.C.

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RE: Spring Roster

Posted: 3/29/2012 8:24:45 PM

I see Snyder is gone, but I didn't see any other changes. I guess they will tinker with the roster a bit at a time.

As far as the heights and weights, for player who have been at Ohio that long, they appear to be the weights from Fall 2009. For recruits from the 2010 and 2011 year, the weights are from Spring 2011. For new arrivals, the weights appear current.

Last Edited: 3/29/2012 8:36:42 PM by L.C.

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RE: Spring Roster

Posted: 3/31/2012 8:11:17 AM

Bcat2 wrote:

Valley Cat wrote:

Usually a rite of Spring. Any idea when we get a look at it?

Today, and more changes today.

http://www.ohiobobcats.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/ohio-m-footbl-mtt.html

Last Edited: 3/31/2012 8:12:42 AM by Bcat2

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L.C.
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RE: Spring Roster

Posted: 3/31/2012 2:15:02 PM

I think they are still making changes. A lot of people have been updated, but not all of them. Edmonds and Andy Fay are now listed (they weren't earlier this morning), and the classes have been corrected for a lot of players. Since I can see they are still working on it, I will refrain from commenting yet.

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RE: Spring Roster

Posted: 4/2/2012 9:18:58 PM

I don't notice any further changes to the roster since Friday, so I will make some comments, I guess:

First, there are always a lot of walkon changes in the Spring, and the roster doesn't really reflect them. Using information from the Messenger, the following are walking on this Spring, but are not on the roster:
Bubba Williams LS, Brian Palermo RB, Chris Tarrant RB, Brian Shankweiler WR, Clayton Luburgh DL, Mike Sullivan, Shay Netter LB, Storm Timson LB, Art Jordan TE, James Radabaugh TE,
plus I would add Grant Venham, P to that list

The roster correctly reflects that the following have apparently left the program:
Bell and Snyder QB, LaVoie LS

David Fulcher has reportedly left the program, too, but is still on the roster. Joe Morales is listed, too, but apparently will graduate and not be back in the fall.

The following players are not listed on the roster, which may reflect that they have left, or they may be omissions, given the other walkons that are not listed:
Dallas Brown RB, Brian Albrect DE, Preston Oglesbee DL, Jeremy Stump OL, Devin Favors RB, Justin Szink CB, Dale Cotton DL

Also, there are numerous players where I question the class that is listed:
1. These are listed as Redshirt Sophomores, but I think they are Juniors:
Nic Barber, Xavier Hughes, Chris Johann, Sam Johnson, Jon Lechner
2. These are listed as Redshirt Freshmen, but I think they are Sophomores:
Bryce Dietz, Brad Fain, Brian Hairston, Thad Ingol, Craig Luburgh, Blake Jones
3. I know Landon Smith, Crutcher, and Lorenzo Fisher played as true freshmen, but the following are all also listed as Sophomores rather than redshirt Freshmen, and I don't think they played:
Lucas Powell, Mike McQueen, Jacob Welter, Darrius Vick, Kawmae Sawyer, Ian Wells, Devin Bass, Aaron Macer, Ben Russell, Eric Price, Brandon Purdum
4. These are listed as Redshirt Juniors, but I think Seniors
Alphonso Lewis, and the Leftwich twins
5. Other random questions:
Lorenzo Fisher - I think he played, and should be a true Sophomore, but is listed as a Freshman
Andy Fay - was a Junior last year, and a Sophomore the year before, but now is a Freshman
Donte Foster - last year was Redshirt Freshman, but now is listed as a redshirt Junior, may be true junior, if he played as a freshman
Wade Wells, the new Juco transfer is listed as a Senior - I would be surprised if that is right
Ty Branz - another new Juco is listed as a Freshman - that can't be right
Tyler Knight - listed as Junior, should be Senior, I think

Last Edited: 4/2/2012 10:01:29 PM by L.C.

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RE: Spring Roster

Posted: 4/2/2012 11:18:03 PM

Nice work on all that, LC, I believe you are probably right on almost everything.

One thing, though, the roster is correct that Donte Foster is a redshirt junior. Went to Seminole State for basketball for a year, had nine catches in his first year at Ohio and then had 30 catches this past weason.

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RE: Spring Roster

Posted: 4/2/2012 11:39:31 PM

Oh, that's right - I forgot about Foster's year of Basketball, which would count as his redshirt year. I wouldn't be surprised if I made another mistake or two somewhere, too - I did it pretty quickly, plus I don't have access to the real information, so I am sometimes forced to fill in the blanks.

Last Edited: 4/3/2012 12:10:26 PM by L.C.

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RE: Spring Roster

Posted: 4/18/2012 2:49:53 PM

I see that they eventually fixed most of the items in the roster. A few questions remain, however:

1. Tyler Knight - Roster says he is a Junior, but I'm thinking he should be a Senior. He was a Junior last year, and per Ted, he played in at least four games.

2. Ian Wells - Roster says he is a Sophomore, and I guess he played in the opener, but was hurt. Therefore he should be able to get a medical redshirt, and I think he will be a Redshirt Freshman

3. Blake Jones - Roster says Redshirt Freshman, but he has to be a Sophomore

4. A few of the walkons listed by Arkley are still not on the roster, including the running back we have heard about, Chris Tarrant, plus Chris Owens, James Radabaugh, and Clayton Luburgh. Perhaps some of these have already left the program, and are gone intentionally, I don't know.

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