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Gallia Cat
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  Message Not Read  The impact of reducing Ohio Varsity sports
   Posted: 5/14/2012 8:09:01 PM 
I remember when Ohio dropped several varsity sports and one of the reasons was to focus more financial support on the revenue sports (football and basketball). I am curious what everyone thinks? Football and men's basketball have improved as have salaries of coaching staffs. Now looking back, was it a good thing but handled poorly?
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DelBobcat
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  Message Not Read  RE: The impact of reducing Ohio Varsity sports
   Posted: 5/14/2012 8:53:36 PM 
Gallia Cat wrote:
I remember when Ohio dropped several varsity sports and one of the reasons was to focus more financial support on the revenue sports (football and basketball). I am curious what everyone thinks? Football and men's basketball have improved as have salaries of coaching staffs. Now looking back, was it a good thing but handled poorly?


I don't remember that ever being a reason that was given for that decision. It was my understanding that those sports were eliminated in order to be compliant with Title IX.


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Alan Swank
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  Message Not Read  RE: The impact of reducing Ohio Varsity sports
   Posted: 5/14/2012 8:53:56 PM 
It was a very bad thing handled very poorly.  As for revenue we have at least five revenue sports:  football, volleyball, men's and women's basketball and baseball.  To the best of my knowledge, none of them make a profit.
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DanOhio72
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  Message Not Read  RE: The impact of reducing Ohio Varsity sports
   Posted: 5/14/2012 10:15:14 PM 
Slightly OT

Below is a link to the USA Today athletics finances for D-1 schools for 2006-2011.

Ohio
Revenue = $25,470,296
Expenses = $22,841,117
Subsidy = $19,576,760
Per cent subsidy = 76.9%

Ohio State (for comparison)
Revenue = $131,815,821 (2nd place behind Texas)
Expenses = $122,286,869 (2nd place behind Texas)
Subsidy = $0 (Tied w/ Texas, Penn State, Oklahoma, LSU, Nebraska, Purdue)
Per cent subsidy = 0.0%

SEC, Big 12, & Big Tendozen have most of the highest revenue numbers and the lowest subsidy numbers.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/story/2012-05-14/ncaa-college-athletics-finances-database/54955804/1

Now, if we get Peden up to 100,000 filled seats and the convo to standing room only, we could be there. 

Dan 
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bigtillyoopsupsideurhead
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  Message Not Read  RE: The impact of reducing Ohio Varsity sports
   Posted: 5/14/2012 10:31:51 PM 
Alan Swank wrote:
To the best of my knowledge, none of them make a profit.


Not accurate according to this. 

http://www2.indystar.com/NCAA_financial_reports/expense_stat/show?school_id=111 

Men's basketball is profitable. 
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L.C.
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  Message Not Read  RE: The impact of reducing Ohio Varsity sports
   Posted: 5/14/2012 11:26:51 PM 
Note that the revenue in that link includes Student fees. I'm a bit confused by the revenue numbers for football because I was expecting a big number, such as $800,000 or so, from a "money game".

Last Edited: 5/14/2012 11:34:35 PM by L.C.


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Ohio69
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  Message Not Read  RE: The impact of reducing Ohio Varsity sports
   Posted: 5/15/2012 8:13:35 AM 

Gallia Cat wrote:
I remember when Ohio dropped several varsity sports and one of the reasons was to focus more financial support on the revenue sports (football and basketball). I am curious what everyone thinks? Football and men's basketball have improved as have salaries of coaching staffs. Now looking back, was it a good thing but handled poorly?

Well, it sure was handled poorly.

 


Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?.....

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james hall united
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  Message Not Read  RE: The impact of reducing Ohio Varsity sports
   Posted: 5/15/2012 2:42:15 PM 
I dont remember that being the reason either. Title IX was what i always heard too. But it might be an effect of cutting those sports. At that time i was upset about the cuts because i swam my freshman year. But looking back know, i'd rather have succuessful football and basketball programs which are capable of creating income. Its not like those facilities are gone. If the athletic department ever become profitable some of those programs could be brought back.
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Ohio69
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  Message Not Read  RE: The impact of reducing Ohio Varsity sports
   Posted: 5/15/2012 3:52:37 PM 

The starting and stopping of women's lacrosse was bizarre. 

If a sport like men's swimming could add tuition paid by non-scholarship athletes (I'm guessing 80% of men swimmers were non scholarship) into the revenue equation then they would be profitable.




Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?.....

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