Welcome Guest!
Create an Account
login email:
password:
site searchcontact usabout usadvertise with ushelp
Message Board
BobcatAttack.com Message Board
Ohio Football
Topic:  Episode 3 of Relentless

Topic:  Episode 3 of Relentless
Author
Message
FindersFee
General User

Member Since: 7/9/2010
Post Count: 36

Status: Offline
  Message Not Read  Episode 3 of Relentless
   Posted: 8/21/2012 8:28:14 PM 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4svN4QNrEw&feature=youtu.be&hd=1

Hope you enjoy! 
Back to Top
  
L.C.
General User

Member Since: 8/31/2005
Location: United States
Post Count: 10,498

Status: Offline
  Message Not Read  RE: Episode 3 of Relentless
   Posted: 8/21/2012 11:38:03 PM 
Of course we will. I am still downloading, which takes awhile, but I've watched about 5 min of it. The video is fantastic, as always, but I have to comment on the awesome catch at 4:05 by Sebastian Smith. Wow.... Octavious is all over him, and he bats the ball to himself.

I've finished watching it - Great job. Keep up the great work.

Last Edited: 8/22/2012 12:30:27 AM by L.C.

“We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus

Back to Top
  
shabamon
General User



Member Since: 11/17/2006
Location: Cincinnati
Post Count: 6,878

Status: Offline
  Message Not Read  RE: Episode 3 of Relentless
   Posted: 8/22/2012 6:47:09 AM 
At the risk of coming across as unappreciative, I have to share some criticisms. I feel like the show is trying too hard to look cool instead of really being informative. I feel like there are too many slow motion action sequences set to epic sounding music and pre-planned feature stories. Reacting to the real drama of camp, I think, would make for a far more interesting show. We had, what...20 players affected by a stomach flu? No mention of it in last week's episode. Our best defensive player and a team leader is at risk of losing his entire season. No mention of it in this week's episode. I think the best behind the scenes sports shows ("Hard Knocks", "ESPNU All Access", "The Association") are completely reactionary and just act as a fly on the wall. Show me some coaches' meetings. Show me the team getting hyped during Oklahoma drills. The stuff with Grooms working with the freshmen and the new D-line coach were good. I'd stay away from a three minute feature of some equipment guy rubbing the footballs in mud.

Sorry to sound like Redlettermedia criticizing the Star Wars prequels (though, if you haven't watched those, you're missing HOURS of entertainment), but I really think just letting the action happen would be far more interesting and informative.
Back to Top
  
GoCats105
General User

Member Since: 1/31/2006
Location: Seattle, WA
Post Count: 7,452

Status: Offline
  Message Not Read  RE: Episode 3 of Relentless
   Posted: 8/22/2012 7:14:14 AM 
shabamon wrote:
At the risk of coming across as unappreciative, I have to share some criticisms. I feel like the show is trying too hard to look cool instead of really being informative. I feel like there are too many slow motion action sequences set to epic sounding music and pre-planned feature stories. Reacting to the real drama of camp, I think, would make for a far more interesting show. We had, what...20 players affected by a stomach flu? No mention of it in last week's episode. Our best defensive player and a team leader is at risk of losing his entire season. No mention of it in this week's episode. I think the best behind the scenes sports shows ("Hard Knocks", "ESPNU All Access", "The Association") are completely reactionary and just act as a fly on the wall. Show me some coaches' meetings. Show me the team getting hyped during Oklahoma drills. The stuff with Grooms working with the freshmen and the new D-line coach were good. I'd stay away from a three minute feature of some equipment guy rubbing the footballs in mud.

Sorry to sound like Redlettermedia criticizing the Star Wars prequels (though, if you haven't watched those, you're missing HOURS of entertainment), but I really think just letting the action happen would be far more interesting and informative.


Aren't these episodes a week or two behind though? Like Episode 3 is actually August 1-10 somwhere in that range? That could explain the reasoning for the stomach flu and Carrie situations.

Last Edited: 8/22/2012 7:15:10 AM by GoCats105
Back to Top
  
L.C.
General User

Member Since: 8/31/2005
Location: United States
Post Count: 10,498

Status: Offline
  Message Not Read  RE: Episode 3 of Relentless
   Posted: 8/22/2012 8:17:10 AM 
I agree with some of what you said about the value of being reactionary. For example, one of the great stories in last year's "Relentless" was Jeff King's knee situation. Seeing what they have to fight through to be the best is definitely of value. On the other hand, I like the action shots, too. As for side stories, I didn't mind the mud bit - I had no idea how they broke in footballs, so that was informative. I could have lived without the shopping trip for watermelons, though.

“We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus

Back to Top
  
Bobcat Grad 86
General User

Member Since: 12/20/2004
Post Count: 1,397

Status: Offline
  Message Not Read  RE: Episode 3 of Relentless
   Posted: 8/22/2012 8:33:03 AM 
L.C. wrote:
I agree with some of what you said about the value of being reactionary. For example, one of the great stories in last year's "Relentless" was Jeff King's knee situation. Seeing what they have to fight through to be the best is definitely of value. On the other hand, I like the action shots, too. As for side stories, I didn't mind the mud bit - I had no idea how they broke in footballs, so that was informative. I could have lived without the shopping trip for watermelons, though.


I thought the watermelon segment was very informative.  I was not aware a Watermelon could grow in your stomach if you ate the seeds!
Back to Top
  
71 BOBCAT
General User

Member Since: 12/20/2004
Post Count: 1,903

Status: Offline
  Message Not Read  RE: Episode 3 of Relentless
   Posted: 8/22/2012 9:15:32 AM 
We all should keep in mind that Coach would not be in favor of too much information concerning plays and team talk as this show is public domain.
All in all it's a great peice of work and there aren't many schools that promote their program like OHIO.






GO BOBCATS
Back to Top
  
L.C.
General User

Member Since: 8/31/2005
Location: United States
Post Count: 10,498

Status: Offline
  Message Not Read  RE: Episode 3 of Relentless
   Posted: 8/22/2012 9:42:36 AM 
Bobcat Grad 86 wrote:
I thought the watermelon segment was very informative.  I was not aware a Watermelon could grow in your stomach if you ate the seeds!

Apparently it can, at least if apply science from a school bus that flies.The camaraderie when they were eating the melons was good, it was the grocery store shots that I was talking about.

71 BOBCAT wrote:
We all should keep in mind that Coach would not be in favor of too much information concerning plays and team talk as this show is public domain...

I'd agree, but I don't think anyone is asking for that. What shabamon asked for was footage of guys fighting through the flu bug, for example,

I really think any of the suggestions are minor - on the whole, it's a great show, and I look forward to the next episode.

Last Edited: 8/22/2012 9:44:23 AM by L.C.

“We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus

Back to Top
  
Monroe Slavin
General User

Member Since: 12/20/2004
Location: Oxnard, CA
Post Count: 9,121

Status: Offline
  Message Not Read  RE: Episode 3 of Relentless
   Posted: 8/22/2012 9:54:37 AM 
I agree that it's generally terrific.  I'd like to see more of specific instruction on techniques, planning for practices, back office stuff like preparing the field and ticket sales and travel planning, etc.

Where's the band?!
WHERE"S THE BAND?!


DesignspiritUSA.com
The Pets On The Go Collection of pet gear travel bags
The Holiday Tote Bigg Bagg Collection--over-sized, reversible, extra pockets; now love carrying packages as much as you love shopping!

Back to Top
  
shabamon
General User



Member Since: 11/17/2006
Location: Cincinnati
Post Count: 6,878

Status: Offline
  Message Not Read  RE: Episode 3 of Relentless
   Posted: 8/22/2012 10:09:37 AM 
Let me just be clear about something, too. I completely realize that an in-house production staff doing a show about amateur athletes broadcasted on PBS probably has far more limitations on what they can ethically show than a third party production staff doing a show about professional athletes broadcasted on HBO.
Back to Top
  
Monroe Slavin
General User

Member Since: 12/20/2004
Location: Oxnard, CA
Post Count: 9,121

Status: Offline
  Message Not Read  RE: Episode 3 of Relentless
   Posted: 8/22/2012 10:30:50 AM 
The stuff focused on individual players is great--Scipio, Hastings, etc.

Where's the band?!
WHERE"S THE BAND?!


DesignspiritUSA.com
The Pets On The Go Collection of pet gear travel bags
The Holiday Tote Bigg Bagg Collection--over-sized, reversible, extra pockets; now love carrying packages as much as you love shopping!

Back to Top
  
Bobcat Grad 86
General User

Member Since: 12/20/2004
Post Count: 1,397

Status: Offline
  Message Not Read  RE: Episode 3 of Relentless
   Posted: 8/22/2012 10:34:42 AM 
Monroe Slavin wrote:
I agree that it's generally terrific.  I'd like to see more of specific instruction on techniques, planning for practices, back office stuff like preparing the field and ticket sales and travel planning, etc.


I think they picked Jordan Thompson / Tight-End meeting room and film session just for you Monroe! 
Back to Top
  
Robert Fox
General User

Member Since: 11/16/2004
Location: Knoxville, TN
Post Count: 2,039

Status: Offline
  Message Not Read  RE: Episode 3 of Relentless
   Posted: 8/22/2012 10:56:43 AM 
shabamon wrote:
At the risk of coming across as unappreciative, I have to share some criticisms. I feel like the show is trying too hard to look cool instead of really being informative. I feel like there are too many slow motion action sequences set to epic sounding music and pre-planned feature stories. Reacting to the real drama of camp, I think, would make for a far more interesting show. We had, what...20 players affected by a stomach flu? No mention of it in last week's episode. Our best defensive player and a team leader is at risk of losing his entire season. No mention of it in this week's episode. I think the best behind the scenes sports shows ("Hard Knocks", "ESPNU All Access", "The Association") are completely reactionary and just act as a fly on the wall. Show me some coaches' meetings. Show me the team getting hyped during Oklahoma drills. The stuff with Grooms working with the freshmen and the new D-line coach were good. I'd stay away from a three minute feature of some equipment guy rubbing the footballs in mud.

Sorry to sound like Redlettermedia criticizing the Star Wars prequels (though, if you haven't watched those, you're missing HOURS of entertainment), but I really think just letting the action happen would be far more interesting and informative.


While I partially agree, I think you have to give credit for the Hastings sequence, and all the emotion involved in his brother's wounding. That's good, inside-the-locker room stuff that seldom gets publicity.
Back to Top
  
Bobcat Grad 86
General User

Member Since: 12/20/2004
Post Count: 1,397

Status: Offline
  Message Not Read  RE: Episode 3 of Relentless
   Posted: 8/22/2012 12:24:02 PM 
Robert Fox wrote:
shabamon wrote:
At the risk of coming across as unappreciative, I have to share some criticisms. I feel like the show is trying too hard to look cool instead of really being informative. I feel like there are too many slow motion action sequences set to epic sounding music and pre-planned feature stories. Reacting to the real drama of camp, I think, would make for a far more interesting show. We had, what...20 players affected by a stomach flu? No mention of it in last week's episode. Our best defensive player and a team leader is at risk of losing his entire season. No mention of it in this week's episode. I think the best behind the scenes sports shows ("Hard Knocks", "ESPNU All Access", "The Association") are completely reactionary and just act as a fly on the wall. Show me some coaches' meetings. Show me the team getting hyped during Oklahoma drills. The stuff with Grooms working with the freshmen and the new D-line coach were good. I'd stay away from a three minute feature of some equipment guy rubbing the footballs in mud.

Sorry to sound like Redlettermedia criticizing the Star Wars prequels (though, if you haven't watched those, you're missing HOURS of entertainment), but I really think just letting the action happen would be far more interesting and informative.


While I partially agree, I think you have to give credit for the Hastings sequence, and all the emotion involved in his brother's wounding. That's good, inside-the-locker room stuff that seldom gets publicity.


+1 at 1000%!
Back to Top
  
Rowdy Rufus
General User



Member Since: 1/11/2011
Post Count: 356

Status: Offline
  Message Not Read  RE: Episode 3 of Relentless
   Posted: 8/22/2012 12:38:39 PM 
Bobcat Grad 86 wrote:
L.C. wrote:
I agree with some of what you said about the value of being reactionary. For example, one of the great stories in last year's "Relentless" was Jeff King's knee situation. Seeing what they have to fight through to be the best is definitely of value. On the other hand, I like the action shots, too. As for side stories, I didn't mind the mud bit - I had no idea how they broke in footballs, so that was informative. I could have lived without the shopping trip for watermelons, though.


I thought the watermelon segment was very informative.  I was not aware a Watermelon could grow in your stomach if you ate the seeds!


hahaha... Yea and that we learned that from the Magic School Bus..

I personally love the show and have really enjoyed it each week.  Ohio keeps raising the bar for the other MAC schools..

Back to Top
  
Rowdy Rufus
General User



Member Since: 1/11/2011
Post Count: 356

Status: Offline
  Message Not Read  RE: Episode 3 of Relentless
   Posted: 8/22/2012 12:42:07 PM 
Robert Fox wrote:
shabamon wrote:
At the risk of coming across as unappreciative, I have to share some criticisms. I feel like the show is trying too hard to look cool instead of really being informative. I feel like there are too many slow motion action sequences set to epic sounding music and pre-planned feature stories. Reacting to the real drama of camp, I think, would make for a far more interesting show. We had, what...20 players affected by a stomach flu? No mention of it in last week's episode. Our best defensive player and a team leader is at risk of losing his entire season. No mention of it in this week's episode. I think the best behind the scenes sports shows ("Hard Knocks", "ESPNU All Access", "The Association") are completely reactionary and just act as a fly on the wall. Show me some coaches' meetings. Show me the team getting hyped during Oklahoma drills. The stuff with Grooms working with the freshmen and the new D-line coach were good. I'd stay away from a three minute feature of some equipment guy rubbing the footballs in mud.

Sorry to sound like Redlettermedia criticizing the Star Wars prequels (though, if you haven't watched those, you're missing HOURS of entertainment), but I really think just letting the action happen would be far more interesting and informative.


While I partially agree, I think you have to give credit for the Hastings sequence, and all the emotion involved in his brother's wounding. That's good, inside-the-locker room stuff that seldom gets publicity.


Loved this part. Made me realize what is and is not important in life..    We are blessed to be able to get on here and have these discussions because we dont have to worry about our safety thanks to the brave men and women like Mr. Hastings...   Thank you for your service and I pray for a speedy recovery.    I'm ashamed to say I was not aware of this.  
Back to Top
  
Kinggeorge4
General User



Member Since: 12/22/2004
Location: Guysville, OH
Post Count: 1,052

Status: Offline
  Message Not Read  RE: Episode 3 of Relentless
   Posted: 8/22/2012 12:46:20 PM 
I like it a lot.  I love seeing what ALL goes into getting this team on the field.  Sometimes you forget how much goes into putting a team on the field.  Plus I like to see the fun stuff too.  Overall, great job, keep them coming.

GO BOBCATS
GEORGE

Back to Top
  
Paul Graham
General User



Member Since: 1/18/2005
Location: The Plains, OH
Post Count: 1,424

Status: Offline
  Message Not Read  RE: Episode 3 of Relentless
   Posted: 8/22/2012 1:22:56 PM 
While I love the show and look forward to it each week, I agree with some of the criticism. I was left a little disappointed by this week's episode...mostly because it contained a little too much fluff. 

Of course, the show isn't (and shouldn't) be designed for the few hundred or so hardcore Bobcat fans and I understand that. However, I do think its reasonable to assume that the target audience is very interested in football and would appreciate a more nuts and bolts look at camp. The fluff stuff is fine, but spending 1/3 of the episode on it is a bit much.
Back to Top
  
perimeterpost
General User



Member Since: 7/6/2010
Post Count: 3,165

Status: Offline
  Message Not Read  RE: Episode 3 of Relentless
   Posted: 8/22/2012 4:06:07 PM 
the visuals of the series are fantastic and as a hungry OHIO fan I can thank everyone involved enough for putting out such a great series. Regarding some of the comments I think a difference I see from last season to this season is less narrative in the story telling, not as much voice overs. its still all great though, thank you!

and this is minor but I love the graphics for the name plates with the green and white stripe and the faded edges and the attack cat on the side. Its just the right combo of green and white with the right amount of black and virtually no brown/gold/yellow. I would LOVE to see that look transferred to ohiobobcats.com, way to much brown/yellow/gold on that sight currently. (bobcattack gets a pass because its not official).

MY STATE. MY TEAM.
Back to Top
  
anorris
General User



Member Since: 7/6/2010
Location: Bristol, CT
Post Count: 2,262

Status: Offline
  Message Not Read  RE: Episode 3 of Relentless
   Posted: 8/22/2012 5:22:01 PM 
perimeterpost wrote:
and this is minor but I love the graphics for the name plates with the green and white stripe and the faded edges and the attack cat on the side. Its just the right combo of green and white with the right amount of black and virtually no brown/gold/yellow. I would LOVE to see that look transferred to ohiobobcats.com, way to much brown/yellow/gold on that sight currently. (bobcattack gets a pass because its not official).
Agreed.  The fonts on the show this season are excellent.
Back to Top
  
Cat4ever
General User

Member Since: 12/29/2007
Location: Oakland, FL
Post Count: 447

Status: Offline
  Message Not Read  RE: Episode 3 of Relentless
   Posted: 8/22/2012 7:19:56 PM 
I don't watch "Relentless" for the purpose of getting a 6'oclock news briefing. I watch it pretty much to get pumped about the season and celebrate the people of Ohio football.

Every week has included some kind of behind the scenes feature -- family life of a coach, mudding down the footballs, a Purple Heart.

Russ and the crew deliver in Green for me!

The only thing that is a fact is that nothing is a fact.
If this statement is true, it is also false.
                  --Dr. Donald Horning, circa 1965

Back to Top
  
Showing Replies:  1 - 21  of 21 Posts
Jump to Page:  1
View Other 'Ohio Football' Topics
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             



WHO'S ONLINE
There are 210 Active Visitors on BobcatAttack.com
210 Guests
0 Registered Users
There are no other users looking at this page.




Copyright ©2025 BobcatAttack.com. All rights reserved.  |  Privacy Policy  |  Terms of Use
Partner of USA TODAY Sports Digital Properties