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Topic: More kool-aid drinking publicity....

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PTgrad
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More kool-aid drinking publicity....

Posted: 8/29/2012 6:16:48 PM

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/football/ncaa/08/29/preseason-crystal-ball/index.html?eref=sihp&sct=hp_t11_a0

about half way down the page...."best bet to bust the BCS"

this time its Stewart Mandel

Dont get me wrong, I abso-freakin-lutley would love to see undefeated happen....

but for me the Penn State game does not worry me, its the nature of the MAC and how every year, whether its football or basketball, the teams tend to beat up on each other in coference play and games get won by teams that should have never won the game...ie...Ball State and even Buffalo beating us last year.

Last Edited: 8/29/2012 6:21:31 PM by PTgrad

anorris
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RE: More kool-aid drinking publicity....

Posted: 8/29/2012 7:21:54 PM

3 others who don't pick us to bust the BCS still think we have the best shot of anybody at an undefeated season.

Pataskala
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RE: More kool-aid drinking publicity....

Posted: 8/30/2012 6:43:06 AM

anorris wrote:

3 others who don't pick us to bust the BCS still think we have the best shot of anybody at an undefeated season.

I think all the talk of undefeated season is a bit overblown. Last year, we went 9-3 during the regular season playing only three teams that had a winning season (Rutgers, Terd and Temps) and with most of the better teams at home. That gave us an edge over them. This season, we have three teams with winning records from last year (Penn St, Terd and Norfolk St) but the better teams based on last year's records are on the road (Penn St, Terd, BSU, UMass, Fiami and Kent). Going unbeaten is always tough, and it doesn't help to have the better opponents on the road. It can be done, but it's a long shot. I'm not going to get excited about it unless we're unbeaten at the end of October.

We will get by.
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Bcat2
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RE: More kool-aid drinking publicity....

Posted: 8/30/2012 6:55:11 AM

Pataskala wrote:

anorris wrote:

3 others who don't pick us to bust the BCS still think we have the best shot of anybody at an undefeated season.

Sage Pataskala. +1

Last Edited: 8/30/2012 6:59:22 AM by Bcat2

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GoCats105
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RE: More kool-aid drinking publicity....

Posted: 8/30/2012 8:21:26 AM

"...that schedule is a certified clown show."

Gotta love that.

Turney13
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RE: More kool-aid drinking publicity....

Posted: 8/30/2012 8:42:31 AM

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/college/dick-weiss-penn-st-give-fight-move-article-1.1147589

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The Optimist
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RE: More kool-aid drinking publicity....

Posted: 8/30/2012 10:49:18 AM

If we make the BCS joke schedules will forever be certified. If we go undefeated but don't make the BCS Bobcat Love might throw a moltov cocktail through the athletic department windows, and I might lead a separate riot targeting the BCS and the NCAA. Should be an interesting season...

Penn State worries me, mainly because I want to keep dreaming of undefeated. Just imagine college green on a Tuesday or Wednesday in late fall. Colored leaves, hipsters juggling, and an undefeated Bobcats football team. The buzz would be unreal.

edit: I guess I should make it clear that unless there are some insane loses that really open things up, we probably don't deserve BCS, even if we're undefeated... But I compare this to a case of a clear holding call against us. I know it is the right call but I still boo the refs.

Also, how cool is it that we get to talk about this stuff? Being good is fun.

Last Edited: 8/30/2012 10:57:05 AM by The Optimist

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GoCats105
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RE: More kool-aid drinking publicity....

Posted: 8/30/2012 11:04:09 AM

The Optimist wrote:

Actually Love would probably say "I told you so." He hates the schedules we've had and I don't blame him.

But yes, being good is fun. Remember when the main thing we had to talk about was how bad Brooks Rossman was?

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RE: More kool-aid drinking publicity....

Posted: 8/30/2012 11:32:10 AM

Turney13 wrote:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/college/dick-weiss-penn-st-give-fight-move-article-1.1147589

One interesting aspect of all this is that half the pickers at the Daily News chose us over Penn St. Could be that they're just wishing nothing but bad things for Penn St, but I'm surprised they've even heard of a team named Ohio that doesn't have "$U" after it. Even as recent as last year we probably wouldn't have been given a chance to beat them. This program has come a long way.

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RE: More kool-aid drinking publicity....

Posted: 8/30/2012 11:43:43 AM

Pataskala wrote:

Turney13 wrote:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/college/dick-weiss-penn-st-give-fight-move-article-1.1147589

I feel like between Scripps and the various TCOMM programs we are fairly well represented and well known in media quarters, particularly after nearly advancing to the Elite 8.

anorris
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RE: More kool-aid drinking publicity....

Posted: 8/30/2012 12:17:37 PM

Pataskala wrote:

anorris wrote:

3 others who don't pick us to bust the BCS still think we have the best shot of anybody at an undefeated season.

To clarify, I'm not saying we will go undefeated -- it's a very high goal with so many variables, and we may well stub a toe somewhere but still have a marvelously successful season. I'm more marveling over the change in perception our team has undergone in the last several years.

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RE: More kool-aid drinking publicity....

Posted: 8/30/2012 12:19:06 PM

a murderer's row of OOC opponents is fool's gold. We play a better than us, an equal to us, a less than equal to us, and an FCS team. How many BCS programs play 2 of 4 against opponents that are as good or significantly better than themselves?

We need to focus on dominating our conference and the rest will take car of its self. 13-1 was within reach last year, no reason to set expectations any lower this year.

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RE: More kool-aid drinking publicity....

Posted: 8/30/2012 12:19:22 PM

People are discounting our MAC schedule a little too easily. Is there a team on our schedule that is not supposed to be better than last year? The only team that is supposed to step back from last season is NIU and that's because they won the conference and lost their superstar QB. they still might be very good with any improvement on D as they had a very solid backup.

Tack on Marshall and NMSU, both of whom will be better than last year. Penn State is an unknown, but the win has cachet if we can snag it. Norfolk State I have no idea, but I don't begrudge the FCS game - it ensures we can have 2 home out of conf. games.

My greatest concern is how our offense absolutely sputtered to the finish. Fairly lame performances against Miami, NIU and Utah State. I hope we are healthy and ready to move fast this year. We need Tettleton to be unconscious to win this weekend.

We set all kinds of school records last year, but that's not really saying much. All that means is we had an average year by Toledo standards. I think we still have lots of room to improve on the offensive side of the ball. especially in our consistency.

L.C.
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RE: More kool-aid drinking publicity....

Posted: 8/30/2012 12:35:45 PM

GoCats105 wrote:

The Optimist wrote:

...
edit: I guess I should make it clear that unless there are some insane loses that really open things up, we probably don't deserve BCS, even if we're undefeated... But I compare this to a case of a clear holding call against us. I know it is the right call but I still boo the refs.

Actually Love would probably say "I told you so." He hates the schedules we've had and I don't blame him. ...

If he did, he'd be wrong. Yes, if Ohio were to go undefeated with a very hard schedule, they would make the BCS, yet, there is no chance that this team goes undefeated against a very difficult schedule. This is a good Ohio team. On the other hand, the steps each year are incremental. I don't think even the most hard-core Koolaid drinker would tell you that Ohio is really a Top 10 team this year. If they really were that good, it would make sense to schedule a much harder schedule than this. For what Ohio has, this is a realistic schedule, and really, part of the weakness was beyond Ohio's control, because the conference gave them EMU and Ball State to play, and not NIU, Toledo, or WMU.

Speaking of Love, I'm wondering if he will admit he was wrong. It was his position that the only way to increase attendance was to bring in good foes, preferably BCS foes, and he disagreed with the position that if you win, people will come to see you. Well, there are no BCS foes on the schedule, but the team is winning, and ticket sales are up, not down.

Last Edited: 8/30/2012 12:39:35 PM by L.C.

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