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First Street Forever
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  Message Not Read  The Real Turning Point
   Posted: 9/1/2012 3:38:24 PM 
My friend Jay noticed this: After ESPN showed the JoePa cutout in Franco Harris' skybox, Ohio scored 17 unanswered points. 







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  Message Not Read  RE: The Real Turning Point
   Posted: 9/1/2012 3:46:49 PM 
I would have said the tipped pass for the touchdown, but I think you might be right.
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  Message Not Read  RE: The Real Turning Point
   Posted: 9/1/2012 3:50:51 PM 
OUr wide receivers played much better in the second half too. Really stepped up/grew up!


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L.C.
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  Message Not Read  RE: The Real Turning Point
   Posted: 9/1/2012 4:34:50 PM 
The real turning point happened well before it was visible on the scoreboard. In my mind, the real turning point came when Ohio put its first points on the board. With the score 7-3, Ohio knew they could score, and that they had withstood the intensity of PSU at the beginning. From that point on, it was all downhill for PSU, and all uphill for Ohio. Granted, because of a blocked punt, and a score by PSU the score got worse before it got better, but really, it was pretty much all Ohio.

From that point on, Ohio dominated both lines of scrimmage, and it took awhile to show up on the scoreboard, but eventually it did, as it usually does. Really, the score could have been worse. Weller only 1-3 on FG? I bet that doesn't happen again. Consider that the blocked punt was the only punt Ohio attempted in the last three quarters. The drives ended fg, missed fg, punt (blocked), half, td, td, missed fd, td, game end.

Before that FG, Ohio had 84 yards on 22 plays, an average of 3.8 yards a play. The rest of the game they got 415 more yards on 69 plays, over 6 yards a play. Meanwhile, after getting 169 yards on 26 plays in the first quarter, Penn State was held to 168 more yards the other three quarters combined.


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  Message Not Read  RE: The Real Turning Point
   Posted: 9/1/2012 5:29:02 PM 
Agree 1-3 on FGs will not likely be repeated. It looked like Weller was hurried on one or possibly both missed attempts. Not sure if he was hurried because of pressure, or simply hurried himself too much. Either way, it looked like his kick was forced, and you could tell he missed from the moment he struck the ball.
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  Message Not Read  RE: The Real Turning Point
   Posted: 9/1/2012 6:39:10 PM 
Actually the momentum swung when Frank called a timeout with 2 seconds left in the first half. Nits got gassed running twice to the locker room.
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  Message Not Read  RE: The Real Turning Point
   Posted: 9/1/2012 7:12:01 PM 
L.C. wrote:
The real turning point happened well before it was visible on the scoreboard. In my mind, the real turning point came when Ohio put its first points on the board. With the score 7-3, Ohio knew they could score, and that they had withstood the intensity of PSU at the beginning. From that point on, it was all downhill for PSU, and all uphill for Ohio. Granted, because of a blocked punt, and a score by PSU the score got worse before it got better, but really, it was pretty much all Ohio.

From that point on, Ohio dominated both lines of scrimmage, and it took awhile to show up on the scoreboard, but eventually it did, as it usually does. Really, the score could have been worse. Weller only 1-3 on FG? I bet that doesn't happen again. Consider that the blocked punt was the only punt Ohio attempted in the last three quarters. The drives ended fg, missed fg, punt (blocked), half, td, td, missed fd, td, game end.

Before that FG, Ohio had 84 yards on 22 plays, an average of 3.8 yards a play. The rest of the game they got 415 more yards on 69 plays, over 6 yards a play. Meanwhile, after getting 169 yards on 26 plays in the first quarter, Penn State was held to 168 more yards the other three quarters combined.


L.C. on fire today.

I was really worried about this game until we finally put points on the board. Even when the punt got blocked I was ok with it, sort of, because I didn't feel like we would be punting much more in the game.

I just want to know why Tyler wasn't tucking and running on the read option more. I tweeted to Arkley early in the game and he didn't understand it either. Unless this is a new twist in the Pistol and we're saving TT for later in the year. Kudos to the O-line and Beau though, they were huge today.
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  Message Not Read  RE: The Real Turning Point
   Posted: 9/1/2012 7:36:28 PM 
To back up my point, I will repost the quarter by quarter stats. As I posted on another thread:
1st Qtr Ohio 47, Penn State 169
2d Qtr Ohio 146, Penn State 64
3rd Qtr Ohio 154, Penn State 64
4th Qtr Ohio 152, Penn State 66

Edit, also - in the first quarter, McGloin was 13-17 for 130 yards The remainder of the game he was 14-31 for 130 yards..

Last Edited: 9/1/2012 7:50:35 PM by L.C.


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  Message Not Read  RE: The Real Turning Point
   Posted: 9/1/2012 7:44:28 PM 
GoCats105 wrote:
I just want to know why Tyler wasn't tucking and running on the read option more. I tweeted to Arkley early in the game and he didn't understand it either. Unless this is a new twist in the Pistol and we're saving TT for later in the year. Kudos to the O-line and Beau though, they were huge today.


See other threads on this forum about Tettleton being the "stick that stirs the drink" of our offense? 

Penn State has some size and talent on defense.  Why expose yourself to some potentially brutal hits early on?  I like the call.  If he went out with a concussion, winning the game would have been much harder.  If he broke a leg, ala scrambling Mike Vick in Atlanta, what does our whole season look like?

Save those plays and those hits for when we need them.  If he doesn't run the ball again until December, that's fine by me.
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  Message Not Read  RE: The Real Turning Point
   Posted: 9/1/2012 10:03:37 PM 
Robert Fox wrote:
Agree 1-3 on FGs will not likely be repeated. It looked like Weller was hurried on one or possibly both missed attempts. Not sure if he was hurried because of pressure, or simply hurried himself too much. Either way, it looked like his kick was forced, and you could tell he missed from the moment he struck the ball.


I just wonder if it's because he has a new holder.  Not blaming the holder, but you get used to having someone there for you and it's strange when they leave.  He and Hershey had a real comfort level.


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  Message Not Read  RE: The Real Turning Point
   Posted: 9/1/2012 10:07:34 PM 
Arkley's suggested that.


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  Message Not Read  RE: The Real Turning Point
   Posted: 9/1/2012 10:20:09 PM 
MedinaCat wrote:
Actually the momentum swung when Frank called a timeout with 2 seconds left in the first half. Nits got gassed running twice to the locker room.


I actually did like that timeout call.  Probably not a huge impact either way, but it left Penn State with a feeling of confusion heading into halftime.  Also, it made them defend for a play, and Ohio had essentially nothing to lose.

The big difference for me in the second half was the passing game connecting better.  There were some drops and some high throws in the first half, looked like first-game jitters.  I just counted this quickly but I think Tettleton was 15/22 in the first half, which is decent, but improved to an excellent 16/19 in the second half.
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  Message Not Read  RE: The Real Turning Point
   Posted: 9/1/2012 11:13:39 PM 
To me, the turning point happened when the Ohio secondary started shutting down the PSU passing game, sometime in the 2nd quarter.  Their running game had already been effectively shut down by the end of the first quarter.  By the time the 3rd quarter rolled around, Ohio had fully adjusted to PSU's passing game, and it was left to Tettleton and Co. to seal the game by scoring points.  The real question remaining in the game was whether the Bobcats could break PSU's defense and score some points.

The statistics say it all.

Last Edited: 9/1/2012 11:21:25 PM by Jeff Johnson


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  Message Not Read  RE: The Real Turning Point
   Posted: 9/1/2012 11:36:56 PM 

When you try to beat a team above your level it's important that you don't make mistakes. After we missed two field goals and had a punt blocked, I must admit I wasn't feeling postive. After all that, to win by 10 shows what a solid team we have. Winning on the road against a routine national power before a packed house is very impressive.

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