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Author Message Bobcatzblitz General User Member Since: 7/21/2010 Post Count: 1,739 Status: Offline     THE HATE OF OHIO ATHLETICS CONTINUES??    Posted: 9/10/2012 5:29:29 PM  Surprise!! http://www.athensnews.com/ohio/article-37716-loyal-bobcat-fans-penalized-for-programrss-recent-success.html Back to Top LoganElm_grad09 General User Member Since: 9/9/2010 Location: South Bloomingville, OH Post Count: 934 Status: Offline     RE: THE HATE OF OHIO ATHLETICS CONTINUES??    Posted: 9/10/2012 5:36:08 PM  Unless I'm mistaken, when there is a high demand for limited product, prices go up.  (Economics 103) Welcome to a program that is reaching for the big time. Back to Top Bobcatzblitz General User Member Since: 7/21/2010 Post Count: 1,739 Status: Offline     RE: THE HATE OF OHIO ATHLETICS CONTINUES??    Posted: 9/10/2012 5:39:15 PM  And they trashed Pres McDavis salary increase also. When does it end? Didnt he announce a 125 Million dollar surplus in the next few yrs  today? Back to Top SBH General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 4,293 Status: Offline     RE: THE HATE OF OHIO ATHLETICS CONTINUES??    Posted: 9/10/2012 5:42:05 PM  I used to think it would be nice to retire in Athens.  Too many bitter ex-faculty, staff, etc. down there for me. Back to Top D.A. General User Member Since: 8/6/2010 Location: Georgetown, ME Post Count: 1,190 Status: Offline     RE: THE HATE OF OHIO ATHLETICS CONTINUES??    Posted: 9/10/2012 5:44:18 PM  There are ten's of thousands of seats in Peden requiring no donation.  If he is pissed because he has to pay a donation for a premium seat, then he should stay home. The Few, The Proud, The Bobcats! And for the record, I hate tOSU, and Ricordati and Torgerson are DB's. "This isn't just another walkover from the MAC." Kirk Herbstreit, another DB, on College Football Gameday Back to Top Alan Swank General User Member Since: 12/11/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 7,234 Status: Offline     RE: THE HATE OF OHIO ATHLETICS CONTINUES??    Posted: 9/10/2012 5:44:46 PM  Bobcatzblitz wrote: Surprise!! http://www.athensnews.com/ohio/article-37716-loyal-bobcat-fans-penalized-for-programrss-recent-success.html This is not hate.  This is from an elderly gentlemen who has sat in the same seat with his wife for many many years and this year had to pony up $50 a seat to get one of the new chair back seats.  Nothing more and nothing less and he clearly sees through the "donation" designation.  He would not be sending in the $100 except for the fact that he would like to continue sitting in the same pew in church.  To some that is a forced offering.  We've had this conversation many times in the past so we all know what the arguments are for and against.  The bottom line is that it is now necessary to pay to play like it or not.  Can't wait to see my AmEx bill next month. Back to Top D.A. General User Member Since: 8/6/2010 Location: Georgetown, ME Post Count: 1,190 Status: Offline     RE: THE HATE OF OHIO ATHLETICS CONTINUES??    Posted: 9/10/2012 5:51:33 PM  Alan Swank wrote: Bobcatzblitz wrote: Surprise!! http://www.athensnews.com/ohio/article-37716-loyal-bobcat-fans-penalized-for-programrss-recent-success.html He would not be sending in the $100 except for the fact that he would like to continue sitting in the same pew in church.  To some that is a forced offering. Good point about the assimilation of donations and offerings.  There are dozens of churches in Boston that have family plaques in the pew boxes.  Most of these have names like Revere, Adams, Franklin, Kennedy and the like on them.  And I know this will come as a shock: they are the best seats in the house!  And the unnamed, open seating is in the back of the church and in the balcony. Let's dump some tea in the Hocking!!! And there is nothing forced about it.  He can choose to pay the donation, or not.  And Lord knows the new "O" is all of what, two sections by 30 rows? And as for Hays' comment about the cost to student and how it relates to the original letter: the additional seat donation is due to the fact that the University required ICA to take LESS MONEY FROM STUDENTS this year.  So the fee is directly related to reducing the subsidy that Hays loathes.  Ironic, no? Last Edited: 9/10/2012 5:55:34 PM by D.A. The Few, The Proud, The Bobcats! And for the record, I hate tOSU, and Ricordati and Torgerson are DB's. "This isn't just another walkover from the MAC." Kirk Herbstreit, another DB, on College Football Gameday Back to Top Bobcatzblitz General User Member Since: 7/21/2010 Post Count: 1,739 Status: Offline     RE: THE HATE OF OHIO ATHLETICS CONTINUES??    Posted: 9/10/2012 5:54:34 PM  I was more concerned to the comments by this douchebag Steve Hays at the bottom. Back to Top Gallia Cat General User Member Since: 7/11/2010 Post Count: 938 Status: Offline     RE: THE HATE OF OHIO ATHLETICS CONTINUES??    Posted: 9/10/2012 6:06:43 PM  I wonder if this person also complains about Ohio Athletics needing to generate more of its revenue rather that use student fees?  The mentality is changing among Ohio fans but some hold onto the past.  Its to be expected.  I try not to let it bother me to much. I have noticed some jabs about the old Green White Club.  It was inevitable that it needed to  be replaced with a Fund Raising club and now we have the Ohio Bobcat Club.  This is how it works everywhere else for the most part.  Marshall has the Big Green, Virginia Tech has the Hokie Club, etc.  Change is tough sometimes and I think Ohio Athletics has gone above and beyond in doing as much as possible to make this transition as easy as possible.  Back to Top GoCats105 General User Member Since: 1/31/2006 Location: Seattle, WA Post Count: 7,452 Status: Offline     RE: THE HATE OF OHIO ATHLETICS CONTINUES??    Posted: 9/10/2012 6:31:52 PM  Is it possible that we can compare Athens, OH to places like Boulder, CO and Berkely, CA? They like sports, but just not enough to care and put forth the effort and finances toward making it a consistent winner. It's weird, it's almost like its a town full of right-wing hippies, which is impossible but Athens somehow pulls it off. Back to Top MUTeke General User Member Since: 7/13/2010 Location: Beckley, WV Post Count: 57 Status: Offline     RE: THE HATE OF OHIO ATHLETICS CONTINUES??    Posted: 9/10/2012 6:41:05 PM  Gallia Cat wrote: I wonder if this person also complains about Ohio Athletics needing to generate more of its revenue rather that use student fees?  The mentality is changing among Ohio fans but some hold onto the past.  Its to be expected.  I try not to let it bother me to much. I have noticed some jabs about the old Green White Club.  It was inevitable that it needed to  be replaced with a Fund Raising club and now we have the Ohio Bobcat Club.  This is how it works everywhere else for the most part.  Marshall has the Big Green, Virginia Tech has the Hokie Club, etc.  Change is tough sometimes and I think Ohio Athletics has gone above and beyond in doing as much as possible to make this transition as easy as possible.  You can find this same conversation going on over at HerdNation. East Side Prime I and II require a $50 Big Green donation. Chair backs on the west side require at least a $300 donation. High profile away game tickets are only made available to Big Green members and season ticket holders. Select scrimmages during the spring and fall camps are open to Big Green members only. The packets just went out for the Vision Campaign as well. Hamrick is asking for a 5 year commitment to the campaign above what you already donate to the Big Green. Marshall needs to raise $20M of $30M privately to complete a new soccer stadium, multi-use indoor practice facility, Hall of Fame, academic center and sports medicine translational research facility. We have raised a little more than half of the $20M needed during the silent phase of the campaign. Bids are going out on the soccer stadium this month and on the IPF this winter. We're also adding a third level to the press box at Joan C Edwards Stadium that will contain 4 new suites, new bathrooms, etc. Those are already sold and construction is set to begin right after this season in time for them to be ready by the start of the 2013 season. Herd fans are slowly realizing you can't build and grow and not expect to be asked to make more of a commitment to the program. That's probably going to make some people upset but such is progress. Back to Top Bobcat Grad 86 General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 1,397 Status: Offline     RE: THE HATE OF OHIO ATHLETICS CONTINUES??    Posted: 9/10/2012 7:04:50 PM  My wife had the same seats at UVA for 20 years including some really bad years with Sonny Randle.  If you think $50 per seat is tough to swallow try a new $1,500 fee per seat. Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,498 Status: Offline     RE: THE HATE OF OHIO ATHLETICS CONTINUES??    Posted: 9/10/2012 7:13:35 PM  Does anyone else think it is odd that a person who complains about athletics being partially funded by student fees would complain when the athletics tries to get money from non-fee sources? It would seem more logically consistent if he favored this as a way to get money without getting it from fees. “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top Ohio69 General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 3,062 Status: Offline     RE: THE HATE OF OHIO ATHLETICS CONTINUES??    Posted: 9/10/2012 7:24:13 PM  Curmdugeons curmudge. But, cut Alan Boyd some slack.  Appears he's a long time fan. Steve Hays.  Jeesh, wonder what windmills he's attack if athletics didn't exist. Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?..... Back to Top Voice of Reason General User Member Since: 7/28/2010 Post Count: 249 Status: Offline     RE: THE HATE OF OHIO ATHLETICS CONTINUES??    Posted: 9/10/2012 7:39:30 PM  Alan Swank wrote: Bobcatzblitz wrote: Surprise!! http://www.athensnews.com/ohio/article-37716-loyal-bobcat-fans-penalized-for-programrss-recent-success.html This is not hate.  This is from an elderly gentlemen who has sat in the same seat with his wife for many many years and this year had to pony up $50 a seat to get one of the new chair back seats.  Nothing more and nothing less and he clearly sees through the "donation" designation.  He would not be sending in the $100 except for the fact that he would like to continue sitting in the same pew in church.  To some that is a forced offering.  We've had this conversation many times in the past so we all know what the arguments are for and against.  The bottom line is that it is now necessary to pay to play like it or not.  Can't wait to see my AmEx bill next month. I don't understand how people are so upset about a donation.  It is the same thing as if ticket prices go up.  However, the department is doing it's season ticket holders a service by increasing it in the form of donation as opposed to ticket price.  With donation, you get additional benefits and it is tax deductible.  With just raising ticket price, you get nothing. What product price does not increase with an increase in quality or demand?  This letter to the editor is classic entitlement.  This guy has supported football for years because he has enjoyed it.  Now after many years, he feels that he is owed something for all the years of loyal, unwavering support he has provided.  NO!  Get over it people! Back to Top mf279801 General User Member Since: 8/6/2010 Location: Newark, DE Post Count: 2,473 Status: Offline     RE: THE HATE OF OHIO ATHLETICS CONTINUES??    Posted: 9/10/2012 7:41:16 PM  LoganElm_grad09 wrote: Unless I'm mistaken, when there is a high demand for limited product, prices go up.  (Economics 103) Welcome to a program that is reaching for the big time. The ANews has long preferred the economic laws of Marx, Engles, and Lenin to the economic laws of real life. Back to Top bobcat28 General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: United States Post Count: 808 Status: Offline     RE: THE HATE OF OHIO ATHLETICS CONTINUES??    Posted: 9/10/2012 8:25:43 PM  How ridiculous. I bet this guy complained to McDonalds when the price of his morning coffee increased from .79 to .85 when using his Golden Buckeye card too. Back to Top bobcat695 General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Parkersburg, WV Post Count: 1,345 Status: Offline     RE: THE HATE OF OHIO ATHLETICS CONTINUES??    Posted: 9/10/2012 9:11:59 PM  The OBC donation is 80% tax deductible. We cannot build a bigger program by ignoring inflation and progress. I respect my elders and appreciate their support of the programs for many years before I was even born. I'll bet this same gentleman has not, however, done the math and figured out that the amount of the donation is almost exactly the price of the parking that he no longer has to pay for at each game for football and basketball. "You can't un-fist a fist pump." - Saul Phillips 1/24/15 Back to Top 71 BOBCAT General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 1,903 Status: Offline     RE: THE HATE OF OHIO ATHLETICS CONTINUES??    Posted: 9/10/2012 9:16:34 PM  Let's get to the truth on this issue and investigate this persons statement to see if what he stated is factual. If this story is not true end of discussion. I do think, as I am sure many of you have also thought, that with a successful season ticket prices, fees, or concession prices will increase next year. I have no problem with this. If you put a better product on the field people will pay to watch. GO BOBCATS Back to Top oucs 1986 General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Mason, OH Post Count: 251 Status: Offline     RE: THE HATE OF OHIO ATHLETICS CONTINUES??    Posted: 9/10/2012 9:51:41 PM  i still think they should charge me $8.00 for a beer. -john Go Bobcats! Back to Top Doc Bobcat General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 4,283 Status: Offline     RE: THE HATE OF OHIO ATHLETICS CONTINUES??    Posted: 9/10/2012 9:57:27 PM  There are only 2 kinds of people in this world....those that love athletics and those that hate athletics....if you're apathetic then you belong to the haters. Back to Top Brian Smith (No, not that one) General User Member Since: 2/3/2005 Post Count: 3,016 Status: Offline     RE: THE HATE OF OHIO ATHLETICS CONTINUES??    Posted: 9/10/2012 9:57:41 PM  L.C. wrote: Does anyone else think it is odd that a person who complains about athletics being partially funded by student fees would complain when the athletics tries to get money from non-fee sources? It would seem more logically consistent if he favored this as a way to get money without getting it from fees. Totally agree. This sort of seat licensing is the most efficient and fair way of paying for college athletics. And if Ohio keeps winning a lot of games, it will become a significant source of revenue. I guess people just don't like the term "donation" when they feel its built into the cost of the seat. They should just call it what it is: a PSL. Back to Top JSF General User Member Since: 1/29/2005 Location: Houston, TX Post Count: 6,554 Status: Offline     RE: THE HATE OF OHIO ATHLETICS CONTINUES??    Posted: 9/10/2012 10:00:15 PM  Doc Bobcat wrote: if you're apathetic then you belong to the haters. Disagree. Apathetic people tend not to stand in the way. They're on the sideline while the haters are putting up roadblocks. "The haters" could say the apathetics belong to the supporters, couldn't they? Because they don't help the hate cause. "Loyalty to a hometown or city is fleeting and interchangeable, but college is a stamp of identity."- Kyle Whelliston, One Beautiful Season. My blog about depression and mental illness: https://bit.ly/3buGXH8 Back to Top Doc Bobcat General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 4,283 Status: Offline     RE: THE HATE OF OHIO ATHLETICS CONTINUES??    Posted: 9/10/2012 10:04:26 PM  JSF wrote: Doc Bobcat wrote: if you're apathetic then you belong to the haters. Disagree. Apathetic people tend not to stand in the way. They're on the sideline while the haters are putting up roadblocks. "The haters" could say the apathetics belong to the supporters, couldn't they? Because they don't help the hate cause. Figured you would. Back to Top C Money General User Member Since: 8/28/2010 Post Count: 3,420 Status: Offline     RE: THE HATE OF OHIO ATHLETICS CONTINUES??    Posted: 9/10/2012 10:06:17 PM  oucs 1986 wrote: i still think they should charge me $8.00 for a beer. +1 Back to Top Showing Replies:   1 - 25  of 30 Posts Jump to Page:   1 | 2    Next > View Other 'Ohio Football' Topics                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               WHO'S ONLINE There are 164 Active Visitors on BobcatAttack.com 162 Guests 2 Registered Users:   NashvilleKat, bobcatsquared There are no other users looking at this page.

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