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The Optimist
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Recruiting

Posted: 9/13/2012 10:28:43 PM

At what point do we start targeting a different caliber recruit? Honest question... I am aware there is a recruiting board, but felt this fit better here. After the Marshall and Temple games last year you have to think OHIO started looking real good to recruits... At some point this year (if things go like I plan

) recruits are going to see OHIO very differently from other MAC schools.

I've seen crazier things happen.

L.C.
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RE: Recruiting

Posted: 9/13/2012 10:39:32 PM

It isn't a stair-step jump, it's a slow incremental process. The classes have been getting slowly a little better each year, and I expect that to continue into the future. More important than stars, Ohio is building a culture of hard work, and winning. That attracts people that buy into that culture, which causes it to continue.

�We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.� ― Epictetus

Brian Smith (No, not that one)
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RE: Recruiting

Posted: 9/13/2012 11:25:25 PM

The biggest change I've noticed is on the offensive line. Ohio couldn't get a single big guy with a lick of coordination on the line. Now, Solich has 10 guys we'd all be comfortable seeing on the field.

I think Tettleton makes recruiting QBs much easier in the future. It just takes one QB to start a run of great recruits at the position.

LoganElm_grad09
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RE: Recruiting

Posted: 9/14/2012 12:15:32 AM

Star rankings mean absolutely nothing. How highly rated was Noah Keller? Lavon Brazill? Tettleton? Heck, several of the Imperial Empire's Columbus Branch had a terrific stretch with 3 star players (Santonio Holmes, A.J. Hawk)

Don't worry about the ranking systems. So long as we bring in solid athletes that fit our system and (most importantly) keep the coaches and systems they're taught year after year, they will turn into great football players. A disadvantage that other MAC schools have is that they are constantly bringing in new systems when a good coach leaves or a bad coach gets canned. We don't.

Bobcat36
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RE: Recruiting

Posted: 9/14/2012 7:24:58 AM

The Optimist wrote:

At what point do we start targeting a different caliber recruit?

They're already here...

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Doc Bobcat
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RE: Recruiting

Posted: 9/14/2012 9:25:33 AM

Bobcat36 wrote:

The Optimist wrote:

At what point do we start targeting a different caliber recruit?

They're already here...

+1.

ytownbobcat
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RE: Recruiting

Posted: 9/14/2012 9:27:45 AM

The offensive line is well stocked. I saw where 13 different interior linemen took snaps vs NMSU! Plus we have exceptional true freshman red-shirting this year!

L.C.
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RE: Recruiting

Posted: 9/14/2012 4:10:26 PM

Brian Smith wrote:

Actually, in 2005 the original offensive line that Knorr left was pretty good - Coppage, Paul Johnson, Knabb, Matt Miller, and Cole Wesley. The problem was that there was no depth at all, and when 3 offensive linemen went down to injury in one 5 minute period against Bowling Green, there went the season. The Bobcats were 2-2 at that point, and went 2-5 the rest of the way.

The next few years was a freaky series of disruptions to the offensive line. There were some off the field issues with alcohol and grades, plus lots of injuries. Players who worked up to starter, or at least significant playing time, but who were lost for various reasons for portions of years or permanently include Paul Johnson, Stuck, Philibin, Ferrainolo, Bunner, Schussler, Flowers, Laudermilch, Pinder, and Carlotta, and some other highly touted recruits like Black and Britain were injured without playing much or at all. The result was that the offensive line was very thin, and not that great, particularly in 2007-2008.

The good news is that injuries have returned to a more normal level, and Ohio finally has depth on the offensive line. Add to that a steady improvement in recruits, plus a tremendous work ethic, and Ohio has a very, very good and deep offensive line, and I see no reason they won't continue to have that for years to come based on people in the system plus new recruits. You can see the depth when Ohio loses two all-Mac tackles, and has a better line than the year before.

Last Edited: 9/14/2012 4:11:21 PM by L.C.

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bornacatfan
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RE: Recruiting

Posted: 9/15/2012 8:23:13 AM

I agree they are already here. WIthout the spectre of Frank moving to a diferent school that solidifies efforts. it is interesting thought that other programs will soon begin preying on his age and casting those clouds of doubt as to whether he " will still be here in 4 years and who will be your next coach?" that those recruiters use to make their programs look better. For that matter, we wonder too....

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bobcatsquared
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RE: Recruiting

Posted: 9/15/2012 9:14:27 AM

Taking it out further, what effect does Ohio's improvement on the field and in recruiting and its recent national recognition do to the rest of the MAC? I always believed Marshall's success in the MAC helped raise the talent level throughout the league.

Pataskala
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RE: Recruiting

Posted: 9/15/2012 10:38:40 AM

bobcatsquared wrote:

I hope there's a ripple effect, but I'm not expecting it. Any positive effect of Boise's success on the MWC hasn't really shown itself. Except for Boise, all the teams there have been inconsistent on the field during the past six or seven years, and the whole conference looks to be just mediocre this season. If there was a real chance that the MWC would move to the next level, Boise and SDS wouldn't be bolting to the Bigger Least, which is just another mediocre football conference but got into the BCS mix before collapsing. The MAC is turning into a conference of "haves" (schools that consistently recruit nationally and compete year in and year out: Ohio, Toledo, WMU, NIU, BSU and BGSUcks) and the "have nots" (schools that have occasional success but have trouble recruiting outside their local areas: Fiami, CMU, Akron, Buffalo, Kent, EMU [too early to tell with UMass]). This can change, for good or bad. Ohio used to be a "have not" but it isn't now. The current "have nots" can change too, but they'll need a coach who's well-respected, who builds a great staff and who is willing to stay with the job instead of moving on after initial success or can turn the keys over to an assistant with similar traits.

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