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Topic: Bobcats move to 28 in AP and grabbed 40 votes

Topic: Bobcats move to 28 in AP and grabbed 40 votes

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Gallia Cat
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Bobcats move to 28 in AP and grabbed 40 votes

Posted: 9/23/2012 12:03:52 PM

Discuss!

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/polls/ap/

Last Edited: 9/23/2012 12:20:06 PM by Gallia Cat

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RE: Bobcats move to 28 in AP and grabbed 40 votes

Posted: 9/23/2012 12:06:51 PM

They're still 29th (Northwestern, UCLA, Michigan are the 3 receiving votes in front of us)

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RE: Bobcats move to 28 in AP and grabbed 40 votes

Posted: 9/23/2012 12:08:46 PM

Gallia Cat wrote:

Discuss!

Really need Boise to drop another game, the most likely of which is Nevada. Anyway, the next closest non-AQ to Ohio is Louisiana Tech with 7 votes, so we have a pretty good cushion. As long as we continue to win, finishing as the highest ranked non-AQ is a very good possibility.

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RE: Bobcats move to 28 in AP and grabbed 40 votes

Posted: 9/23/2012 12:26:13 PM

37th in Coaches, with 13 votes

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RE: Bobcats move to 28 in AP and grabbed 40 votes

Posted: 9/23/2012 12:42:22 PM

Ohio also needs Penn State and Marshall to keep winning. CUSA is so bad I would not be surprised to see the Herd in the championship hunt. Another thing that would help Ohio out is to face a team from the West in the championship game with 1 loss. That would make the game more high profile and could be a battle between 2 top 25 teams. I actually think that is possible.

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RE: Bobcats move to 28 in AP and grabbed 40 votes

Posted: 9/23/2012 12:50:11 PM

Let's talk "style points" again, inasmuch as my position was, is and shall remain that so-called style points are ultimately hogwash; that winning consistently in today's D-1 environment is hugely challenging; that "W" stacked on "W" is the style necessary to climb the rankings.

This isn't a position that is held be everyone. Nor should it be, since it's merely an opinion.

But I have to tell you: Those style points were certainly a boon to Michigan State! The Spartans' spectacular domination of the always-potent EMU Eagles really impressed the voters, as MSU climbed a spot or two in both polls. Wow! What style that late-blooming 23-7 win was!

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RE: Bobcats move to 28 in AP and grabbed 40 votes

Posted: 9/23/2012 1:20:18 PM

Cat4ever wrote:

Style points are useful for teams like Ohio coming from non-AQ conferences and trying to get the attention of the media and voters, not AQ teams firmly planted in the top 25.

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RE: Bobcats move to 28 in AP and grabbed 40 votes

Posted: 9/23/2012 2:45:08 PM

Gallia Cat wrote:

Discuss!

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/polls/ap/

It appears that Brady Hoke chose his rival wisely, since Michigan is just one notch ahead of Ohio. It should be a good game - when do they play?

Seriously, not a bad week. Ohio doubled the votes in the AP, and increased more than that in the Coaches poll. If they can keep winning, it will all work it's way out.

As for style points, I think Ohio was fine. Given that they doubled their votes, it doesn't look like they got downgraded by anyone.

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RE: Bobcats move to 28 in AP and grabbed 40 votes

Posted: 9/23/2012 3:29:42 PM

Ohio also moved up to 28 in the RPI

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RE: Bobcats move to 28 in AP and grabbed 40 votes

Posted: 9/23/2012 6:46:52 PM

Just Win Baby! Keeping starters in to run up the score has no up side I can see. Unnecessary snaps for starters puts them at risk of injury, robs reserves of important game experience and is poor sportsmanship. JMHO

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RE: Bobcats move to 28 in AP and grabbed 40 votes

Posted: 9/23/2012 7:03:47 PM

Cat4ever wrote:

Let's talk "style points" again, inasmuch as my position was, is and shall remain that so-called style points are ultimately hogwash; that winning consistently in today's D-1 environment is hugely challenging; that "W" stacked on "W" is the style necessary to climb the rankings.

Those style points were certainly a boon to Michigan State! The Spartans' spectacular domination of the always-potent EMU Eagles really impressed the voters, as MSU climbed a spot or two in both polls. Wow! What style that late-blooming 23-7 win was!

I realize that MSU lost to ND. But the loss was just last week, then they followed it up with a stinker of a game against a team that hasn't won. Compare that to Nebraska that lost a relatively close one to UCLA (who lost Saturday) but the loss by Nebraska was three games ago and the Huskers followed that up with two poundings. Why wouldn't Nebraska be ranked higher than MSU right now?

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RE: Bobcats move to 28 in AP and grabbed 40 votes

Posted: 9/23/2012 8:09:05 PM

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Probably because MSU at least beat Boise while Neb hasn't beaten anybody significant (Southern Miss, Arky St, Idaho St). I was glad Coach didn't run up the score; a lot of players needed the rest and it got some valuable reps for those lower on the depth chart. The win was sufficient to get some more people to take notice, especially with the great day the MAC had overall. Ohio is one of only 14 4-0 teams and 24 total unbeaten teams left in 1A. Keep winning and the recognition will keep coming.

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RE: Bobcats move to 28 in AP and grabbed 40 votes

Posted: 9/24/2012 1:14:29 AM

Could someone who was there write a few words about the back-ups. Specifics on who played, for how many minutes apiece, and who looked good. Especially interested in guards, center and linebackers. THanks.

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RE: Bobcats move to 28 in AP and grabbed 40 votes

Posted: 9/24/2012 9:00:20 AM

Seems to me Ball State has a better resume than us. Wonder if they'll start to get votes.

Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?.....

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RE: Bobcats move to 28 in AP and grabbed 40 votes

Posted: 9/24/2012 9:05:42 AM

Living in Toledo and being only 2 blocks from the Glass Bowl, I am looking forward to taking in the Ball State @ Toledo game in November on a MACtacular Tuesday night. Very well could have MAC Championship implications for that one.

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RE: Bobcats move to 28 in AP and grabbed 40 votes

Posted: 9/24/2012 9:52:27 AM

Ohio69 wrote:

Seems to me Ball State has a better resume than us. Wonder if they'll start to get votes.

Not for awhile and nowhere close to us for the time being. Unless you are an established non-BCS team you won't get a good amount of votes unless you are undefeated. Plus their wins are against Big 10 cellar dweller Indiana and against a Big East squad in South Florida. Solid wins but no eye-popping name or reputation wise like our Penn State win was. They are a team to reckoned with thats for sure, but to those outside the MAC they aren't eye-catching enough to get the votes they might warrant.

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RE: Bobcats move to 28 in AP and grabbed 40 votes

Posted: 9/24/2012 12:07:44 PM

Ohio69 wrote:

Seems to me Ball State has a better resume than us. Wonder if they'll start to get votes.

The thing with non-AQs and the polls is this. You either have to have a MAJOR win (like beating a top 10-15 team) to make a big jump, or have built up some awareness from the previous season(s) in order to get ranked. This is the exact formula TCU and Boise followed to get where they're at now. Basically they started winning games and winning bowl games until they got on the radar, and once they got some legitimate top 20 teams on the schedule they could beat they made the most of it.

The pub we got from winning 10 games last season and our 1st ever bowl win is what we're riding on now. Of course the PSU win helped, but without last year we wouldn't be sniffing the top 25 at this point and may not even have votes. Add in some of the videos that have gone viral, and all of that helps to gain greater awareness to a degree.

Also, the success of the basketball team most definitely has had an effect on Ohio in the national spotlight and has had a positive effect on the football program. Basketball wins don't equal football votes, but thanks to the big run in the tourney and continued progress in football, Ohio is no longer some unknown on the national landscape. Obviously we still have to win the games, but the simple fact that we are being recognized as Ohio is major. It's not hard to figure out. The pollsters like to vote for teams and schools they're familiar with. Slowly but surely, we're becoming one of those schools.

Last Edited: 9/24/2012 12:08:28 PM by OU didn't know

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RE: Bobcats move to 28 in AP and grabbed 40 votes

Posted: 9/25/2012 2:05:56 PM

#30 per Andy Staples Power Ranking - SI

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/andy_staple...

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RE: Bobcats move to 28 in AP and grabbed 40 votes

Posted: 9/25/2012 2:45:20 PM

Ohio69 wrote:

Seems to me Ball State has a better resume than us. Wonder if they'll start to get votes.

Based on what? Marshall and Penn State are just as good if not better than South Florida and better than Indiana and we won both games on the road. Plus they were absolutely spanked by Clemson (45-10 at the half). That game obviously gives them a tougher schedule but that doesn't make it a better resume.

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RE: Bobcats move to 28 in AP and grabbed 40 votes

Posted: 9/25/2012 2:52:39 PM

OUVan wrote:

Ohio69 wrote:

Seems to me Ball State has a better resume than us. Wonder if they'll start to get votes.

Based on perception, and that they are actually good. Big 10 and Big East victories > Big 10 and CUSA victories.

But OU Didn't Know pretty much nailed how this works in his post.

Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?.....

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