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genessee
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Defense?

Posted: 9/29/2012 7:04:44 PM

Wow. Wasn't able to watch, so I need some insight into the defense. Have injuries decimated them? Was our D simply outcoached? What was it? Is this something we can fix and shut down MAC offenses? I'd hate to waste the special opportunity we have this year b/c of a porous defense.

Happy to get out of there with a win.

First Street Forever
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RE: Defense?

Posted: 9/29/2012 7:06:02 PM

Our defense bleaus....

D1-AA...

Horrible.

I don't endorse the furry lifestyle, but when the Bobkitten is involved things can change mighty quickly...

Nash'Cat
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RE: Defense?

Posted: 9/29/2012 7:09:35 PM

I think injuries have hurt the secondary and opened up the pass game for our opponents. I'm sure UMASS's scouting report covered that, and they knew they would be coming into this game passing. Props to them for a toughly fought game!

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CeramicBobcat
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RE: Defense?

Posted: 9/29/2012 7:11:42 PM

Yeah. O U mean us. What we won didn't we? LOL. Yeah I think that was OUr defense's sentiment this game. We are fortunate that UMass has a sloppy O-line. They still protected their QB pretty well. Not much pressure. That Cox guy is going to be a big back for UMass, figuratively and literally. We contained their rushing to some extent, didn't stop them to a point we could force them into passing. OUr secondary was non-existent and bad tackling and bad angles. And they had size and speed at WR and TE despite inexperince on BCS level. UMass will get a few wins this season. Just not against US. Whew!

Last Edited: 9/29/2012 7:12:55 PM by CeramicBobcat

The Pessimist
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RE: Defense?

Posted: 9/29/2012 8:08:40 PM

I started counting missed tackles per play. By 3 I was pretty loud. By 8 I was screaming at the TV. One play I remember a UMass guy was dancing around at the near sideline and two defenders whiffed, fell to the ground, got up, and missed tackles again. I wonder if they count that as 2 or 4 broken tackles.

There was also a QB scramble where our coverage (not sure if LB dropping or a secondary player) came up to make the tackle straight on. Instead of wrapping him up, he threw himself at the QB's legs but with his whole body horizontal and facing our goal line. I'm surprised the QB didn't hurdle him or simply side step and continue running.

Frustrating and aggravating win. That cat is out of the bag though. Everyone is going to throw on us. Even if we cover deep, I can see swing or screen passes being a major pain for us with our tackling. But can you practice tackling with the secondary being so beaten already up?

Valley Cat
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RE: Defense?

Posted: 9/29/2012 8:16:22 PM

Remember when Bill O'Brien said that this Ohio didn't look like they liked to tackle or whatever he said to that extent. That is what Ohio looked like today. Injuries and young DB's are going to be this teams downfall. You lose your top four corners from last season and teams are going to throw all day. UMass is a terrible football team and today Ohio played to their level.

Victory
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RE: Defense?

Posted: 9/29/2012 8:22:37 PM

Lets not panic but I was watching and thinking that they were giving future opponents a template to beat us. You can take advantage of the inexperience at DB by putting 4 and 5 WR on the field.

Last Edited: 9/29/2012 8:23:24 PM by Victory

Urban Bobcat
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RE: Defense?

Posted: 9/29/2012 8:29:06 PM

I think this was just a really poor game for us and we came out with a W. This is a very helpful win that makes our boys realize that despite how good we are any team in the conference can beat us.

URBAN BOBCAT

L.C.
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RE: Defense?

Posted: 9/30/2012 1:08:20 AM

I agree that this was a very sloppy game by the defense. I felt that they didn't come out of the box and take control. Late in the game the defensive line was actually playing well. U.Mass's running game was shut down, and Ohio was getting some pressure, particularly from Huynh and Hastings. The problem is that by then the U.Mass offense was some confidence, and was playing well. If you don't take a home team out early, and let them hang close, it often becomes a real battle, as this was.

�We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.� ― Epictetus

Cat4ever
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RE: Defense?

Posted: 9/30/2012 6:02:51 AM

Urban Bobcat wrote:

I think this was just a really poor game for us and we came out with a W. This is a very helpful win that makes our boys realize that despite how good we are any team in the conference can beat us.

Urban, I think Coach Solich wouldn't mind "hiring" your comment for the locker room -- at least everything beginning with "We came out with a W ..."

Rankings and polls are ultimately irrelevant to everything except what, back in the day, we called the "hot stove league." It's a place where, during cold evenings after everything is said and done except the supply of liquid refreshment, fans sit around and project "what if's"; when there aren't any more "any given Saturdays" until "next season."

But we have seven more "Saturdays" in front of OUr team in 2012 (though some are only figuratively "Saturdays" for the benefit of ESPN programming), and if anybody is chalking up a "W" for ANY of them now, they are a bigger nut than Brutus.

Urban, you get to repeat your comment ... "Any team in the conference can beat us." End of sermon. It's Sunday morning. I must get ready to be thankful for This Good Day. Amen.

The only thing that is a fact is that nothing is a fact.
If this statement is true, it is also false.
--Dr. Donald Horning, circa 1965

MonroeClassmate
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RE: Defense?

Posted: 9/30/2012 8:14:53 AM

Watching the Kent vs BSU game and following the Miami vs Akron game where each team displayed total defensive meltdowns comparable to Foxboro, I see one slight difference. In these other games the offenses were torching the the defenses on 1st, 2nd or third down and having receivers behind all defenders. In OUr game, without doing a play-by-play it seemed the damage was mainly done on 3rd downs and little up top. So is this a function of something regarding the defense, schemes, substitutions, no substitutions, getting tired or what that it would mainly be third down inefficiency?

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