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RSBobcat
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10 Yards Off

Posted: 9/29/2012 9:01:21 PM

Been scratchin' my head about this all year - why do OUr D backs seem to always be 10 (or at least 5, sometimes more than 10) yards off their man? Is it lack of confidence to be able to stick w/'em? Real, or feared lack of reaction speed? Many posts on here and on the game chat today from others about this too.

Or - is this all part of the plan from the coaching staff? With the inexperience due to youth and injuries (and maybe indeed real lack of speed/reaction timing skills) is this the game plan going in every game? By intent play to bend, a lot, accept that we will get scored on, maybe quite a bit, just try to stop them from beating us deep, and rely on the D Line to get most of the series stops? And have faith in the ability of the offense to always be able to put up enough points in the end to win?

I think we are in for a lot of nerve wracking games through the rest of the year!

RS Bobcat

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RE: 10 Yards Off

Posted: 9/29/2012 9:14:31 PM

It is clearly meant to allow our opposition to convert 3rd and long over and over again.

I have noticed that for the last couple of years and it kills me when I see them allow that much cushion. The underneath routes are basically a pitch and catch over and over again.

I do love the passion of the fans on these boards, it is great to know that more and more fans are caring about the success of the team.

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RE: 10 Yards Off

Posted: 9/29/2012 9:55:44 PM

You're correct, its basically so that we don't give up the "big play", don't get beaten deep.

RSBobcat
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RE: 10 Yards Off

Posted: 9/29/2012 10:00:50 PM

mf279801 wrote:

You're correct, its basically so that we don't give up the "big play", don't get beaten deep.

Well, pretty soon we're gonna get beat by loosin' way too many shorts.

RS Bobcat

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RE: 10 Yards Off

Posted: 9/29/2012 10:07:52 PM

RSBobcat wrote:

mf279801 wrote:

You're correct, its basically so that we don't give up the "big play", don't get beaten deep.

Well, pretty soon we're gonna get beat by loosin' way too many shorts.

You'd rather lose be giving up a ton of downfield passes? It clearly isn't an optimal solution, I think its more a reaction to having 962 scholarship defensive backs out due to injury.

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RE: 10 Yards Off

Posted: 9/29/2012 10:43:59 PM

Anybody remember Troy? Playing off receivers must be in our DNA. Having lost some corners I guess it is wise but it is also why I said in another thread we need some 3 down linemen plays with more DBs.

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RE: 10 Yards Off

Posted: 9/29/2012 11:00:52 PM

mf279801 wrote:

RSBobcat wrote:

mf279801 wrote:

You're correct, its basically so that we don't give up the "big play", don't get beaten deep.

Well, pretty soon we're gonna get beat by loosin' way too many shorts.

You'd rather lose be giving up a ton of downfield passes? It clearly isn't an optimal solution, I think its more a reaction to having 962 scholarship defensive backs out due to injury.

Who 'wants to lose" by any regular method? That was the point of my original proposition - maybe this is indeed the "plan". I don't think it works in most games going forward though - therefore the concern. As others have also posted - this requires the D Line Really stepping up - and i think they have the potential to do that.

RS Bobcat

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RE: 10 Yards Off

Posted: 9/29/2012 11:43:27 PM

RSBobcat wrote:

mf279801 wrote:

RSBobcat wrote:

mf279801 wrote:

You're correct, its basically so that we don't give up the "big play", don't get beaten deep.

Well, pretty soon we're gonna get beat by loosin' way too many shorts.

You'd rather lose be giving up a ton of downfield passes? It clearly isn't an optimal solution, I think its more a reaction to having 962 scholarship defensive backs out due to injury.

Try and be objective about the relative strenghts of the D, right now.

The D-Line is, in my opinion, the strength of the D, right now.
The linebackers next
The secondary is last.

Given these realities, my opinion is the D scheme is right, for right now.

When the D line gets pressure on the QB, the softness of the secondary won't look as bad, because he can't sit back there for the throw...

No pressure and it looks really, really, bad.

-john

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RE: 10 Yards Off

Posted: 9/30/2012 12:40:22 PM

Yesterday, the prob wasn't 10 yards. It was getting beat deep. At least two long td grabs. If we're gonna concede the short stuff, yet be vulnerable deep then there are going to be some long fall afternoons.

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RE: 10 Yards Off

Posted: 9/30/2012 6:05:57 PM

Monroe Slavin wrote:

The longest touchdown was 50 yards and it was probably only a 10-yard throw and for some reason there was absolutely no one else on that side of the field, so once he beat his man, he was gone. There were a couple other somehwhat longer TDs, 26 and 27 yards, but off the top of my head, I can't remember them exactly.

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RE: 10 Yards Off

Posted: 10/1/2012 1:53:40 AM

On their first td and one other (at least) they got behind our db's. If you'eplan is to keep everything in front of you, to defend everything in front of you....but you let them get behind you....Then, I guess that you get 37-34 and in doubt until the last seconds.

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