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Topic: Regular season champ vs Tournament Champ

Topic: Regular season champ vs Tournament Champ

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Bobcat1996
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Regular season champ vs Tournament Champ

Posted: 2/26/2018 1:37:09 PM

Since the 2006-07 season the team with the top MAC regular season record ended up winning the tournament and the NCAA invitation 4 times. In March of 2015 Buffalo, Kent and Central had 12 wins in the regular season and Buffalo won the tourney. In March of 2014, Western tied Toledo with 14 wins and Western won the tourney. In March of 2013 Akron was 14-2 and ended up winning the tourney. In March of 2008 Kent was 13-3 and ended up winning the tourney. Buffalo with one win in the next few days, will lock up the #1 seed. How many of you think they will finish the job and end up the winner in Cleveland? If they don't win in Cleveland is their season a huge disappointment?

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RE: Regular season champ vs Tournament Champ

Posted: 2/26/2018 3:52:09 PM

A year ago, I shared an interview with Mark Few on social media, where he was questioned about their chances at the Final Four by a reporter after Gonzaga had won the WCC regular season title. Paraphrasing, he said "if you're only focusing on The Tournament, "I think you're kinda missing the point" of enjoying the journey of the whole season.

I totally agree with him. The longer I watch college basketball, I enjoy November through February, and the conference tournaments, more than the NCAA Tournament as a whole.

If I were a UB Fan, the only way I'd call the whole season a disappointment, is if they lost in their first game up in Cleveland. And that's still a reach to say for me. Of course, I'm from the school of thought that it's silly to base whether or not a season was a success, or a team/coaching staff successful, based on an NCAA Tournament appearance. Sure, there are maybe two or three dozen schools where saying that is logical, but not across the majority of college basketball.

I would be surprised to see UB fail to make it to Saturday night in Cleveland.

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RE: Regular season champ vs Tournament Champ

Posted: 2/26/2018 4:29:31 PM

In the other thread I saw the Top KenPom ranking, and MACC were the same in most years. In a few years the MAC Champ was not the top KenPom #. I am not sure how the MAC Champs and regular season champ shake out with out time to go back and look at that. Seems like the teams that do well all year are the ones that win the autobid. Still blown away by that 14 Kent ended up with in 2002. The 3rd # is the Top Ranking of any MAC team and the 5th # is the rank of the MACC winner.

I think the season is good and necessary. As teams get healthy and learn to play together the saying you want to be playing your best ball in March is valid. The season is how you get there.

CR OU top # MACC

2002 12 115 14 5 14
2003 14 168 70 4 70
2004 15 188 31 4 31
2005 10 85 72 7 85
2006 13 109 70 6 70
2007 13 125 45 5 87
2008 12 95 55 4 55
2009 19 170 91 4 95
2010 16 94 86 4 94
2011 19 149 99 4 118
2012 14 57 57 5 57
2013 15 82 62` 3 62
2014 14 127 101 5 131
2015 11 232 58 7 58
2016 12 141 88 5 138
2017 13 105 100 4 141
2018 14 209 83 2

Last Edited: 2/26/2018 4:31:20 PM by bornacatfan

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RE: Regular season champ vs Tournament Champ

Posted: 2/26/2018 8:12:07 PM

It's why I think the Ivy League was a bunch of fools for tying their NCAA bid to the winner of a conference tournament. They're gonna realize that their best chance of getting upset W's are going to go out the door.

Bobcat1996
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RE: Regular season champ vs Tournament Champ

Posted: 2/27/2018 7:21:30 AM

Some leagues like the Big South reward their regular season winner and play the tournament at the highest seed. I think Vermont's league does that also??

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