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Topic: NCAA Tourney: Seeds vs KenPom

Topic: NCAA Tourney: Seeds vs KenPom

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OUVan
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NCAA Tourney: Seeds vs KenPom

Posted: 3/18/2021 3:39:50 PM

Just did a quick comparison of the Seeds that teams received compared to their KenPom rating and here are the winners and losers:

WINNERS SEED/KENPOM
Oklahoma St 4/8 -4
West Virginia 3/7 -4
Texas 3/7 -4
Clemson 7/10 -3
Kansas 3/6 -3
Missouri 9/11 -2
Oregon 7/9 -2
Florida 7/9 -2
Arkansas 3/5 -2

LOSERS SEED/KENPOM
Wisconsin 9/3 +6
Loyola Chicago 8/3 +5
UConn 7/4 +3
St. Bonaventure 9/6 +3
Villanova 5/3 +2
USC 6/4 +2
Maryland 10/8 +2

Everybody else was +/- 1 or even. Both Virginia and Ohio were +1. Per KenPom we were a 12 and UVa was a 3. For what it's worth.

Andrew Ruck
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RE: NCAA Tourney: Seeds vs KenPom

Posted: 3/18/2021 3:43:46 PM

I saw Sagarin has Virginia #8 in the country which sounds scary. Ohio at #107...still behind Toledo & Buffalo. But in the "recent" column, Ohio is #43 and Virginia #24.

Andrew Ruck
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longtiimelurker
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RE: NCAA Tourney: Seeds vs KenPom

Posted: 3/18/2021 6:14:30 PM

Pomeroy does his analytics from what I am reading, based on equations and values he assigns?

Sagarins are based on computer analysis of records, opponent's records and opponent's opponents records.

Do I have that right?

Interesting comparisons to look at and use. I think I will try to look at those versus the NET ratings.

Bobcat110
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RE: NCAA Tourney: Seeds vs KenPom

Posted: 3/18/2021 7:04:53 PM

Keep seeing KenPorn.

Time to get reading glasses

Last Edited: 3/18/2021 7:06:23 PM by Bobcat110

bornacatfan
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RE: NCAA Tourney: Seeds vs KenPom

Posted: 3/18/2021 7:35:43 PM

Bobcat110 wrote:

Keep seeing KenPorn.

Time to get reading glasses

Basketball is my Porn....I could look at it all day every day. That and motorcycles....especially if they are Kawi Green.

never argue with idiots, they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Winter comes and asks how you spent your summer.....

The game loves and rewards those who love and reward the game

UpSan Bobcat
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RE: NCAA Tourney: Seeds vs KenPom

Posted: 3/18/2021 8:37:07 PM

longtiimelurker wrote:

I believe Ken Pomeroy's are based on statisical analysis (offense, defense, rebounding, shooting weighted against strength of opponents) more than the win/loss results. Sagarin ratings only account for wins, losses and scoring margin.

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