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Topic: Miami @ Ohio State

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shabamon
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Miami @ Ohio State

Posted: 11/26/2010 9:37:23 PM

I went to this game today. I was in Columbus for Thanksgiving, my parents are Miami alumni and my brother is a sophomore at Ohio State. Naturally, this was our family bonding experience. I wanted to go up to Kent but I also didn't want to abandon my family after they had purchased the tickets. Knowing what we know now, that was more than a wise decision. Here are my thoughts, and yes, I am completely aware that Miami was playing the #3 team in the country.

-I think Miami is really going to miss Kenny Hayes this year. I'm going to combine this thought with the fact that I think Allen Roberts needs to have the ball in his hands more. Kenny was good at taking his man off the dribble and getting to the rim. Today, Allen was the only Redhawk committed to getting to the rim. The rest of the team seemed content to find an open perimeter jumper as the shot clock waned, but they struggled. This brings me to my next point.

-The traditional Charlie-offense doesn't really fit the roster. No wait, I don't feel that Miami's individual talents are best utilized in Charlie-ball. Miami has some athletes this year and fewer jump shooters. I feel that a faster, running pace would do a big service to the team. Miami didn't press all game, and while it may not work against Ohio State, I'd expect it to be effective against Buffalo, Western Michigan, etc.

-Piggy-backing off that point, Miami looked VERY uncomfortable when Ohio State pressed. VERY. I was begging for a press against Valporaiso. I hope we bring it to Miami and others at some point.

-Antonio Ballard was the only player who impressed me at all, only because of his commitment to rebounding.

-Jared Sullinger is not ready for the NBA, despite what an ESPN talking head might say. He could get to that point eventually, but if he were to leave after his freshman year, Blake Griffin, or even Paul Millsap would eat him for lunch. I think he needs to lose about 30 pounds and get a few more post moves in his repertoire. There are parts of his game that remind me of Leon Williams. Sully is good at sealing off his man in the post providing a favorable angle to the goal before he gets the ball. Also well aware of creating space with the elbows out on the spin move, so he has some fundamentals down. He just needs to work on his body.

I think we should beat Miami in both meetings this season. Honestly, I can't say that Miami will provide any matchup problems for us although I think they might have an edge on us in the toughness aspect after they have played Duke, Ohio State, UC, X, and Kansas before MAC play. We'll see.

brucecuth
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RE: Miami @ Ohio State

Posted: 11/26/2010 10:15:01 PM

I was also at the game and with a few exceptions, agree with Shab's post.

Miami is not a cohesive unit...yet. We'll see how they do down the road.

They shot pretty poorly against OSU despite having their share of open looks. Yes, they settled for outside shots, perhaps being intimidated by the name Sullinger. They did attempt to go inside a bit in the second half, but with little success. When OSU went inside against the Hawks, they simply overpowered them. At any rate, it was apparent that Charlie and Co were playing to keep the score in the 60s. I lost track of how many shot clock violations Miami was assessed.

My major disagreement with Shab is his characterization of Sullinger. I've seen him play for 3 years. He's now in the best shape of his life. He is never gonna be thin, will always have a big behind. Runs effortlessly, bangs inside, and has PLENTY of post moves. I agree that he's not ready for the NBA, but for different reasons. First he is not an NBA post player (he's about 6'8'). He has very little outside shot. He can drop-step to basket from 6 feet away. But in the NBA, he'll most likely be a power forward, perhaps even a small forward on some teams. He'll have to develop an outside shot, ability to get open, etc. My guess is that even if he stays 4 yrs, which he won't, he wouldn't be asked to do what an NBA forward does.

He'll probably stay at least 1 more year, if for no other reason than there is expected to be a lockout in the NBA next year.

BobcatSports
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RE: Miami @ Ohio State

Posted: 11/26/2010 10:19:45 PM

If we had lost to them by 20 some instead of the 50 some that we lost to Kansas, the OSWho shirts we be out in droves tonite.

Ohio Pilot
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RE: Miami @ Ohio State

Posted: 11/27/2010 10:57:10 AM

I was also at the game, ohio state did not look like a top 5 team thats for sure. But miami controlled the clock and lot and kept it a low scoring game. From what i could tell they have two good players, #4 and #15. (i dont care to learn their names).

Ohio Pilot
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RE: Miami @ Ohio State

Posted: 11/27/2010 10:59:36 AM

Also what is up with charlie coles jacking off ohio state. In the dispatch he said to matta that he(matta) could just give his team a some of tickets to the osu mich game and they would root for ohio state instead of playing the basketball game....wtf, Im sure the Miami players saw that and they really helped their motivation. I would be pissed If Groce or Solich were to do something like that.

JSF
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RE: Miami @ Ohio State

Posted: 11/27/2010 11:09:19 AM

That's just Charlie's sense of humor. Don't read anything into it.

"Loyalty to a hometown or city is fleeting and interchangeable, but college is a stamp of identity."- Kyle Whelliston, One Beautiful Season.

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Ohio Pilot
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RE: Miami @ Ohio State

Posted: 11/27/2010 11:43:37 AM

Bobcat Dragon wrote:

That's just Charlie's sense of humor. Don't read anything into it.

Ok i figured something had to be up with that, i mean i know they are good friends and stuff but, it just seems like something you would say in private not in the newspaper for everyone to see.

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