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JSF
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  Message Not Read  Rebounding
   Posted: 11/27/2010 11:26:32 AM 
We've played enough games that we can start to see some trends about the team emerging.  The one that has intrigued me the most is rebounding.

Last year, we were a below-average offensive rebounding team, mainly because we usually elected to fall back on defense rather than try to recover our misses.  The Bobcats retrieved 32.4% of offensive rebound opportunities last year, 190th in the country.  That rate fell 29.9% in conference play, 10th in the MAC.  They were less successful on the defensive end, only grabbing 66.3% of rebound opportunities, 230th nationally.  In MAC play, it was 65.4%, again 10th.

This year has been very different... on the offensive end.  We rank 54 in the country with a 39.1% offensive rebounding rate.  It will be interesting to see if that success holds up come conference play.  We're still poor on the defensive boards, though, with a 66.9% d-rebound rate, 215th in the country.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Rebounding
   Posted: 11/27/2010 11:51:22 AM 
They say offensive rebounds are all about effort.
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JSF
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  Message Not Read  RE: Rebounding
   Posted: 11/27/2010 11:55:29 AM 
Defensive rebounds, too, and it's been the defensive effort that has triggered my criticism.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Rebounding
   Posted: 11/27/2010 12:04:16 PM 
I know, just yanking your chain.
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JSF
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  Message Not Read  RE: Rebounding
   Posted: 11/27/2010 12:05:08 PM 
Touche.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Rebounding
   Posted: 11/27/2010 2:24:52 PM 
I noticed something from Jacobs in his limited time in the game yesterday.  Every time a shot went up, he turned his head, found someone to box out, and put a body on them.  In comparison, Baltic and Keely usually followed the ball the entire way and just turned their body, without finding a man first.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Rebounding
   Posted: 11/28/2010 5:20:45 PM 
Good observation.  Last night, the 'Cats got 36.7% of misses while only rebounding 58.1% of Santa Clara misses.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Rebounding
   Posted: 11/28/2010 7:13:59 PM 
crackerbaby00 wrote:
I noticed something from Jacobs in his limited time in the game yesterday.  Every time a shot went up, he turned his head, found someone to box out, and put a body on them.  In comparison, Baltic and Keely usually followed the ball the entire way and just turned their body, without finding a man first.


Basic Indiana basketball. He has not played the game that long but he got the message from coach on rebounding skills. Wish they could get his ankle better so he could get on the floor a bit more.
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Ohio69
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  Message Not Read  RE: Rebounding
   Posted: 11/28/2010 8:23:26 PM 
tiptondevilcat wrote:
Wish they could get his ankle better so he could get on the floor a bit more.


Didn't realize he was hurting.  Any info or timeline for 100%?  Will a week with no game help at all?



Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?.....

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  Message Not Read  RE: Rebounding
   Posted: 11/28/2010 8:34:56 PM 
These two games are the first I've seen live in a few years.  I too am impressed with the lack of rebounding.  The other problem is inside shooting.  Fortunately I view these as correctable with effort vs. skill.  These guys need to get an old tape of Rodman out and watch him  anticipate and position his way to 20 rebounds a game.  The good news is the hustle on defense.  The press won the game.  Also two of our freshman showed they can shoot--Kellog and  Hall.  The latter looks to be a real comer.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Rebounding
   Posted: 11/28/2010 9:56:58 PM 
He said something about it when he was home in September then his girlfriend said he had not been playing because of it when she was down there a couple of games back.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Rebounding
   Posted: 11/29/2010 2:16:43 AM 
I think Baltic, Keely and Washington are going to matchup well vs most MAC teams on the glass.  Kent State and Akron are two teams that we will have a worry about. Those teams have strong rebounders, size and depth. We need to box out and team rebound better getting the loose balls.  Very pleased with Baltic so far, He has been much improved. I think Baltic will get only better the more he plays. I think Hall and Sayles can be good rebounders from the 3 position.  Our guards are also getting some rebounds.    
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  Message Not Read  RE: Rebounding
   Posted: 11/29/2010 9:40:54 AM 
Bigs are our biggest weakness right now IMO. Not that we don't have good ones just that we have no one where we can feed the ball into and know they are going to make good decisions. Last year it was KVK, year before Tillman, year before Leon Williams. DeVaughn and Baltic aren't natural back to the basket type players so when they do try those moves it takes an extra second or two longer than someone who is used to it. That second or two may not seem like a big deal to the casual fan but that allows a shifting defense to get set in what it needs to be. If one of our bigs can establish themselves as a go to guy down low that's going to take a ton of pressure off of DJ as most teams probably have the motto of "cut off Cooper, cut off the team" type of philosophy against us. 
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  Message Not Read  RE: Rebounding
   Posted: 11/29/2010 12:29:53 PM 
cc cat wrote:
They say offensive rebounds are all about effort.


I'll certainly give you effort, but there's a lot more to it than that- court awareness, anticipation, positioning, timing/coordination, quickness, elevation, reflexes, strength, to name some others.

Last Edited: 11/29/2010 12:57:17 PM by stub

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