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Pataskala
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  Message Not Read  Should the MAC have no divisions for basketball?
   Posted: 12/4/2010 9:58:42 PM 
I think the MAC should go the way of the ACC, Big 12 and CUSA and not have divisions for basketball.  Each team could still play a 16-game schedule, playing five teams twice and six once.  But it wouldn't necessarily have the same combination every year.  Some natural cross-division rivals (e.g, BG-Toledo; Fiami-BSU) could then schedule home-and-home series if they'd like; teams with already existing rivalries could still maintain them.  More important, It would do away with division champs being seeded in the MAC tournament ahead of teams with better records; the teams with the four best records would have first round byes. 


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  Message Not Read  RE: Should the MAC have no divisions for basketball?
   Posted: 12/5/2010 2:11:56 AM 
I think it'd be great to fix the seeding in the tournament, but I kind of like having Kent and Akron in the Convo every year. Those games always seem to be the most fun and intense (aside from Miami of course) and I wouldn't want to trade them for a couple West teams.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Should the MAC have no divisions for basketball?
   Posted: 12/5/2010 9:26:53 AM 
Yes, Yes, Yes.

We need to get back to crowning the regular season champion as the MAC Champion for that year. Since we went away from that traditional idea, attendance around the league has fallen drastically. Playing the regular season solely to determine seeding in the post-season tournament is a complete yawner and the attendance figures prove it.

Thus we must go back to no divisions and have at it. Divisions serve absolutely no valuable purpose. The one and absolutely only purpose of divisions is to grant the top team in one division the #2 seed in the tournament, most likely a higher seed than they would have otherwise received. Big deal. No one really cares. The purpose of the idea was to generate interest among the fans of the teams vying for that division title. But in reality, fighting for the #2 seed in a tournament does not create any interest at all. A Kent - Ohio game in Athens at the end of the season, with the #2 seed on the line, is not going to exactly fill the Convo.

We need to get back to making the regular season the big deal, and the MAC tournament the "second season" as it used to be. The tournament is already big on its own since the winner gets into the Big Dance. The current system where we have gone to the NBA model for our MAC basketball season cheats the fans out of the true excitement that the regular season can bring. The attendance figures of recen5t seasons around the entire league prove my point.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Should the MAC have no divisions for basketball?
   Posted: 12/5/2010 1:45:55 PM 
DXer wrote:
A Kent - Ohio game in Athens at the end of the season, with the #2 seed on the line, is not going to exactly fill the Convo....


FWIW, we've "filled" the official capacity of the building for -- count 'em -- 2 men's basketball games.  1970 vs. BG and 1997 vs. Kentucky.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Should the MAC have no divisions for basketball?
   Posted: 12/6/2010 10:31:39 AM 
With the performance of the MAC in the out of conference schedule so far this year, inquiring minds are wondering if the MAC even HAS basketball any more. 
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   Posted: 12/6/2010 1:24:03 PM 
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  Message Not Read  RE: Should the MAC have no divisions for basketball?
   Posted: 12/6/2010 1:44:13 PM 
Yeah...word is that the league is negotiating a "Challenge" series for next year with the SWAC...Prairie View A&M vs. Miami; Southern vs. Central Michigan; etc.    Should be some barn burners there. 
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  Message Not Read  RE: Should the MAC have no divisions for basketball?
   Posted: 12/7/2010 12:54:35 PM 
DXer wrote:

We need to get back to crowning the regular season champion as the MAC Champion for that year. Since we went away from that traditional idea, attendance around the league has fallen drastically. Playing the regular season solely to determine seeding in the post-season tournament is a complete yawner and the attendance figures prove it.


Another thing worth noting is that the MAC traditionally played an 18 game league schedule on what was a 25 game regular season now its a 16 game league schedule for a 30 game season. Half of the season feels like an exibition these days. The MAC could comfortably go to a no division 22 game schedule where you crown a true MAC champion and the seeds are reflective of actual strength. The division setup is hurting recruiting at schools like Northern Illinios because they don't get the best of the MAC every year and its keeping schools like Ohio out of a road game in the Indiana or Illinios market that they could use for recruiting every year. I guess if UMass and Temple were to sign onto MAC basketball which is a possibility I could see the league go the other direction to a 14 game schedule with the West division completely cut off.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Should the MAC have no divisions for basketball?
   Posted: 12/7/2010 8:16:47 PM 
There's only one conference that does not use a tournament to crown its champion, and that is the Ivy League.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Should the MAC have no divisions for basketball?
   Posted: 12/8/2010 9:02:42 AM 
Simple why we do not do this and this is wins!  With fewer wins the MAC is having more teams reach 20+ wins a season which is helping increase "opportunities" for post season play.


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