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Topic: Ohio committing more fouls than opponents

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Jeff McKinney
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Ohio committing more fouls than opponents

Posted: 12/22/2010 2:03:58 PM

So far this season, Ohio has committed 263 fouls while our opponents have committed 213.

Ohio's opponents have taken 291 FTs as compared to Ohio's 219.

Anyone care to analyze this? I'm saying it indicates we need to get better on defense in a hurry.

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RE: Ohio committing more fouls than opponents

Posted: 12/22/2010 2:13:18 PM

That and we're taking a ton of jumpers (see the number of 3pters we've taken).

Less driving in the lane = less fouls drawn

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RE: Ohio committing more fouls than opponents

Posted: 12/22/2010 3:23:24 PM

My analysis: the refs don't like us.

I've seen crazier things happen.

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RE: Ohio committing more fouls than opponents

Posted: 12/22/2010 4:03:29 PM

I agree with HeHate that on offense, we've got to find a way to reduce the percentage of our shots that are three pointers. It used to be a hallmark of this program to drive to the bucket and draw fouls, and to draw fouls in the low post offense.

Defensively, we need to improve such basics as guarding by moving your feet and not reaching in and slapping at the ball. We do it right at times, but we need to be more consistent.

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RE: Ohio committing more fouls than opponents

Posted: 12/22/2010 6:11:16 PM

My thoughts on 3 pointers taken is that it is direction the team has been given.
We seem to have very little low post presence and therefore we shoot jumpers.
So as they say live by the 3 die by the 3.
I guess we will take close to 30 tonight.

GO BOBCATS

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RE: Ohio committing more fouls than opponents

Posted: 12/22/2010 10:53:00 PM

Tonight, we actually did a decent job getting the ball into the low post. We only took 15 threes.

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RE: Ohio committing more fouls than opponents

Posted: 12/23/2010 12:09:26 AM

Jeff McKinney wrote:

Ohio is undersized.

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RE: Ohio committing more fouls than opponents

Posted: 12/23/2010 1:28:28 AM

Ted Thompson wrote:

Jeff McKinney wrote:

Ohio is undersized.

We are also underskilled in the post ---as a team we are, as I remarked last season, a donut.

If we had guys with any kind of legitimate post up game then we could simply run iso's but not a one of our post players have anything to their games in the low block area that makes our opponents worry about them.

It's easy to say they are still young and they can develop a low post game in time but I would respond with the question " What exactly have they been working on throughout their entire basketball careers that leaves us all hoping they develop a low post game in time?"

The looks Reggie has been getting for example, have been very good looks. He just hasn't made them. Until he does no team will look to take that shot away from him (which would allow Reggie to go to an up and under move off the fake of a jump hook)

One simply just has to be good enough and right now we're not.

All that is left is hope that right now doesn't become a season long assessment.

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RE: Ohio committing more fouls than opponents

Posted: 12/23/2010 1:39:19 AM

I miss Jerome and Leon.

Jeff McKinney
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RE: Ohio committing more fouls than opponents

Posted: 12/23/2010 11:22:01 AM

Yeah...those two, along with guys like Brandon Hunter and Gary Trent, have definitely spoiled Ohio fans with their post play. And yes, you can even include KVK's senior year in this conversation. He wasn't bad at all.

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RE: Ohio committing more fouls than opponents

Posted: 12/23/2010 11:32:41 AM

Ted Thompson wrote:

Jeff McKinney wrote:

Ohio is undersized.

What happened to Jacobs? Is he being redshirted?

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RE: Ohio committing more fouls than opponents

Posted: 12/23/2010 11:34:02 AM

I think Jacobs has played too many games to be redshirted, unless it was a medical RS.

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RE: Ohio committing more fouls than opponents

Posted: 12/23/2010 2:27:17 PM

Undersized at the 4 and 5. We should be in the 6'6" and under league...

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RE: Ohio committing more fouls than opponents

Posted: 12/23/2010 8:19:47 PM

You know, if you take the anomaly that was St. Bonnie, the Cats are only about +3 per game in fouls. That said, Devo has to be the solution to the situation underneath. Keely has the size needed underneath, but he doesn't yet have the experience; Baltic has neither. Washington has the experience but he's a little undersized. KVK was a bit lanky for underneath, and he was more a finesse player than a banger. Seemed to me that Groce moved him from a low post to a high post on offense in January to save his strength for defense. After that, he was taking more 12 to 15 footers, and that picked up his offensive game while keeping his defense pretty solid. Something like that might help this team.

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RE: Ohio committing more fouls than opponents

Posted: 12/28/2010 9:02:37 AM

Jeff McKinney wrote:

And yes, you can even include KVK's senior year in this conversation. He wasn't bad at all.

I've found myself thinking quite a few times that we're really missing KVK. He may not have been a star, but particularly last year, he was such a solid and dependable presence.

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RE: Ohio committing more fouls than opponents

Posted: 12/28/2010 6:22:01 PM

Agree, we're missing what we had last year right now. Nobody would have thought KVK would have been such a player/leader when watching him foul out early in his first couple seasons. IMO Groce got a lot out of KVK.

But I think this time last year we were worried about similar things. That's the hope that I hold, that we catch fire still and tear through the MAC.

Also, not sure if anyone mentioned it, but KVK made it back to the Convo for the Temple game. Is Euro-hoop season over(or something else happen)?

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RE: Ohio committing more fouls than opponents

Posted: 12/28/2010 7:28:37 PM

Christmas break. He was only in for a few days.

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RE: Ohio committing more fouls than opponents

Posted: 12/29/2010 8:36:07 AM

mcbin wrote:

But I think this time last year we were worried about similar things. That's the hope that I hold, that we catch fire still and tear through the MAC.

Me too. That's why I haven't gotten too upset about the losses (not looses) so far... I keep thinking that last year at this time we were in pretty much the same boat. Feels like we're in that Groundhog Day movie.

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RE: Ohio committing more fouls than opponents

Posted: 12/29/2010 3:15:28 PM

I'd like to have a more enjoyable MAC regular season than we did last year though, please.

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