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71 BOBCAT
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STO Contract

Posted: 2/25/2011 5:08:49 PM

The deal that the MAC made with STO broadcasting should be questioned.
WHY?
2 reasons spell it out:
1) It's an 8 years deal.....too long
2) Broadcasts only covers the Ohio region

I live in R.I. and have DirecTV.
I receive the STO station broadcasts, except MAC sports, this wasn't part of their contract.
When the league contracted with FOXSports a few years ago all games were available anywhere in the country.
This conference has severely dimished it's exposure.
It's becoming more difficult for the mid-majors to compete with the big conferences and this STO deal didn't help.

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mcbin
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RE: STO Contract

Posted: 2/25/2011 5:28:11 PM

Ohio has free webcasts.

71 BOBCAT
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RE: STO Contract

Posted: 2/25/2011 6:10:01 PM

mcbin....Thanks for the heads up on the free home game web casts. However there have been games @ CM & Buffalo that STO covered & I wanted to watch.

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RE: STO Contract

Posted: 2/25/2011 8:01:48 PM

The problem with Fox is that it shoehorned MAC games in among the Cavs, the BJs, A10, Big East, Big 12, ACC and PAC 10 games. The MAC was a mere afterthought for Fox. They would air maybe four football games and a half-dozen basketball games -- almost all involving either Akron or Kent because they supplied the broadcast facilities. At least with STO, there's a lot more exposure, although folks outside Ohio, western PA and western NY may get shortchanged. They probably show up on DTV's pay packages.

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oubobcatjohn
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RE: STO Contract

Posted: 2/25/2011 10:17:34 PM

They have shown a lot more games on tv this year. Add up the espn games and we have gotten on tv more than past years overall. The free webcast of home games is aswesome for those non-conference games and the MAC games not on tv. MAC site games available too. STO is available everywhere for the right price. Same deal for us in the midwest wanting other region packages. Those are extra. STO is great because they also provide Horizon League games too. Finally a network that isn't catering to national deals with the PAC 10 and Big 12. STO is for Ohio. And Those of us in the state love it. Those of us in Celeveland love the station. Bruce Drennen and Chuck Galeti are Cleveland guys. They have great shows and know their stuff. This a perfect fit for Ohio, Akron, Kent State. We are gonna get taken care of every year. No other network will show us that many times a year. We had what 5 games between men and women on STO and a 6th on ESPN2. If we can play well in Cleveland we will get on for the quarters, semis and the final. Those outside area just have to hope the Bobcats get in the dance and then get us that national coverage our fans outside of Ohio want. We got an exciting team that gets up and down the floor.

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RE: STO Contract

Posted: 2/25/2011 10:46:18 PM

Seems to me if someone has STO wherever they may live and whether they have cable or satellite, they shoud get all the games STO does.

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RE: STO Contract

Posted: 2/25/2011 11:22:07 PM

71 BOBCAT wrote:

When the league contracted with FOXSports a few years ago all games were available anywhere in the country.

Yeah, all three of 'em.

Most STO broadcasts are available on ESPN3.

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DXer
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RE: STO Contract

Posted: 2/26/2011 4:47:39 AM

So this adds some news to my previous posts here complaining about STO blacking out their MAC telecasts nationwide. What isn't explained is "why" ? It makes no sense to me. There is no gate to protect in Akron, Ohio, by blacking out the telecast in Dallas, Texas. And it isn't because of the DirecTV pay-per-view services because the games were not provided there, either.

To counter that the games are available via the computer is irrelevant. The games are being telecast on STO, so anyone who receives STO around the country should be able to see the MAC games. It is absolutely logical that the MAC would absolutely want the exposure. Not the other way around.

Cat4ever
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RE: STO Contract

Posted: 2/26/2011 8:21:17 AM

Steve wrote:

Seems to me if someone has STO wherever they may live and whether they have cable or satellite, they shoud get all the games STO does.

Steve, there's no reason to the kind of agreements forged by short-sighted people. I live in Florida, have Directv with STO on it ... and those MAC games are blocked!

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RE: STO Contract

Posted: 2/26/2011 10:53:29 AM

The thing with the FS-Ohio deal was that a lot of the games were preempted by Cavs, Blue Jackets, etc. and unavailable to those of us with basic cable packages in Ohio.

As in, when OHIO UNIVERSITY was playing games, they were often unavailable in ATHENS, OHIO because of FSN's poor coverage and overbooking.

As I said in the last thread in which this was brought up, it is likely that STO sub-licenses rights from ESPN, probably only in Ohio, New York, Indiana, and Chicago area (the conference's territory). More than likely, this is so that ESPN can select them for ESPN3/Game Plan. I would assume the problem is that they have too many games for that PPV package and sometimes select over our games.

Obviously, this isn't a blackout to protect ticket sales -- we aren't talking about the NFL here.

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RE: STO Contract

Posted: 2/26/2011 11:29:11 AM

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RE: STO Contract

Posted: 2/26/2011 11:41:30 AM

Cat4ever wrote:

Steve wrote:

Seems to me if someone has STO wherever they may live and whether they have cable or satellite, they shoud get all the games STO does.

Steve, there's no reason to the kind of agreements forged by short-sighted people. I live in Florida, have Directv with STO on it ... and those MAC games are blocked!

In all likelihood, the STO games are also being carried on DTV's pay college package (ESPN Full Court, or something like that) outside the immediate Ohio area. It's part of the deal with ESPN; if it's pay-per-game, you can't get it on STO outside the MAC geographical area. The same holds true for baseball games on the Fox channels. MLB has its pay-per-game package, so they black out non-local teams' games from the Fox channels. Here in central Ohio, we can only get the Reds on FS Cincy. We can't get the Tigers on FS Detroit or the Pirates on FS Pitts or even the Yanks on YES. I know it's unfair -- why else would you subscribe to a package that includes STO -- but unless somebody sues, it's not gonna change.

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DXer
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RE: STO Contract

Posted: 3/3/2011 1:16:50 AM

The above comments explain a lot of things. However, are the fees the MAC gets from ESPN to have their games "potentially available" on pay-per-view so lucrative that it outweighs the exposure the MAC would get from having a larger audience watching the games on STO?

So here we are. STO is advertising all-day coverage of the MAC tournament quarter finals next week. That is outstanding. But will it be blacked out nationwide, also, just like the regular season games?

Joe McKinley
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RE: STO Contract

Posted: 3/3/2011 2:59:35 AM

DXer wrote:

The MAC tourney games are listed on ESPN game plan so my assumption is that you'll have to pay for everything but the championship game outside of STO's footprint.

anorris
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RE: STO Contract

Posted: 3/3/2011 7:57:52 AM

Joe McKinley wrote:

The MAC tourney games are listed on ESPN game plan so my assumption is that you'll have to pay for everything but the championship game outside of STO's footprint.

Yup. Or ESPN3.com, if you have access.

DXer wrote:

The issue is how the contracts work. ESPN purchases, as a block, the rights to broadcast MAC football and men's basketball games. STO doesn't contract directly with the conference, they sub-license (most) games from ESPN. Their sub-license is for their natural footprint, plus a few outlying areas also covered by the MAC (like Chicago or Buffalo). ESPN would retain other rights -- for online, as well as pay-tv elsewhere in the country. Most of the time, they put these online and on Game Plan, but if they lack enough slots, lets face it, we're probably among the smallest revenue generators.

Now, the reason I say most games is because after ESPN has made their selections, and STO has bought sub-license games, the rights typically would revert back to the schools to sell/give to local broadcasters. Akron produced a number of games, and Kent at least one, that were produced by the schools themselves, and these were not available through ESPN3 or Game Plan. I would be curious to know if these games were blacked out. They were fairly easily identifiable at Akron, because Mix typically didn't do color commentary, and Reghi would be wearing an Akron polo.

Last Edited: 3/3/2011 8:49:42 AM by anorris

Joe McKinley
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RE: STO Contract

Posted: 3/3/2011 1:08:23 PM

anorris wrote:

Joe McKinley wrote:

The MAC tourney games are listed on ESPN game plan so my assumption is that you'll have to pay for everything but the championship game outside of STO's footprint.

Yup. Or ESPN3.com, if you have access.

DXer wrote:

ANorris once again proves that he pays attention in class and can apply what he's learned. Nice work, Alex.

See you in Oxford. I've checked in with two M$%^i students I happen to know and both will already be gone for spring break.

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