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Author Message Pataskala General User Member Since: 7/8/2010 Location: At least six feet away from anybody else Post Count: 9,364 Status: Offline     MAC-Horizon Challenge?    Posted: 5/27/2011 11:16:45 PM  A Chitown blogger thinks it's a good idea: http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-college-basketbal... Sounds interesting.  The two conferences have a similar geographic footprint and could maybe strike a regional TV deal (with STO as the flagship) to help spark some interest.  I'm not a big fan of the Big 6 "challenges" because they too often don't pit equal teams against one another.  But this one may be fun, if done right. We will get by. We will get by. We will get by. We will survive. Back to Top JSF General User Member Since: 1/29/2005 Location: Houston, TX Post Count: 6,554 Status: Offline     RE: MAC-Horizon Challenge?    Posted: 5/28/2011 8:50:41 AM  I talked to him about this a little bit. We agreed it won't happen without TV, and TV isn't likely to be interested. "Loyalty to a hometown or city is fleeting and interchangeable, but college is a stamp of identity."- Kyle Whelliston, One Beautiful Season. My blog about depression and mental illness: https://bit.ly/3buGXH8 Back to Top KyleWvr13 General User Member Since: 11/9/2010 Location: Pottstown, PA Post Count: 501 Status: Offline     RE: MAC-Horizon Challenge?    Posted: 5/28/2011 4:41:09 PM  This is a really interesting idea.  I think it would more entertaining games and better away crowds if it was Youngstown, Wright, or Cleveland. Back to Top oubobcatjohn General User Member Since: 1/1/2005 Post Count: 825 Status: Offline     RE: MAC-Horizon Challenge?    Posted: 5/30/2011 1:50:49 AM  I would put  games at NBA arenas in Chicago, Detroit, Cleveland, Indianapolis.  With triple headers at each venue.  It would give basketball fans tremendous value.  Cleveland would have CSU vs Ohio YSU vs Akron Wright St vs Kent State Detroit would get Detroit vs Toledo UW-GB vs BGSU EMU vs Oakland (Summit league) Indianapolis would get Butler vs Miami Valpo vs Buffalo IUPUI(summit) vs Ball State   Chicago would get Loyola vs NIU UIC vs WMU UW Milwaukee vs CMU      Back to Top Jeff McKinney Moderator Member Since: 11/12/2004 Post Count: 6,155 Status: Offline     RE: MAC-Horizon Challenge?    Posted: 5/30/2011 1:03:46 PM  Not a bad idea. Back to Top OUVan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Bethesda, MD Post Count: 5,580 Status: Offline     RE: MAC-Horizon Challenge?    Posted: 5/31/2011 10:37:09 AM  JSF wrote: I talked to him about this a little bit. We agreed it won't happen without TV, and TV isn't likely to be interested. Build it and they will come.  I don't think you need TV. Events like this spark interest and interest sells tickets.  We aren't on TV for the Bracket Buster many years but it still builds interest around here.   This makes for an interesting event and gives you a game you don't have to work on scheduling.  Not sure I see a downside for either conference. Back to Top OUVan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Bethesda, MD Post Count: 5,580 Status: Offline     RE: MAC-Horizon Challenge?    Posted: 5/31/2011 10:43:53 AM  oubobcatjohn wrote: I would put  games at NBA arenas in Chicago, Detroit, Cleveland, Indianapolis.  With triple headers at each venue.  It would give basketball fans tremendous value.  Cleveland would have CSU vs Ohio YSU vs Akron Wright St vs Kent State Detroit would get Detroit vs Toledo UW-GB vs BGSU EMU vs Oakland (Summit league) Indianapolis would get Butler vs Miami Valpo vs Buffalo IUPUI(summit) vs Ball State   Chicago would get Loyola vs NIU UIC vs WMU UW Milwaukee vs CMU      I think it would do much better with home crowds.  I envision nearly empty arenas for this type of setup. Back to Top oubobcatjohn General User Member Since: 1/1/2005 Post Count: 825 Status: Offline     RE: MAC-Horizon Challenge?    Posted: 6/3/2011 2:12:28 AM  Instead of renting out the NBA arenas they could play on campus and have 4 host schools bid on the games. Maybee play 3 games in three nites where we play CSU, Wright State and Youngstown State.  Butler would have the money to support it. Maybee Toledo and perhaps UW Milwaukee puts up the money.  Our ability to outbid the other schools in our bracket to host would be likely. By having the biding that would generate some money for the two conferences.   Back to Top OUVan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Bethesda, MD Post Count: 5,580 Status: Offline     RE: MAC-Horizon Challenge?    Posted: 6/3/2011 10:01:30 AM  oubobcatjohn wrote: Instead of renting out the NBA arenas they could play on campus and have 4 host schools bid on the games. Maybee play 3 games in three nites where we play CSU, Wright State and Youngstown State.  Butler would have the money to support it. Maybee Toledo and perhaps UW Milwaukee puts up the money.  Our ability to outbid the other schools in our bracket to host would be likely. By having the biding that would generate some money for the two conferences.   I still think that's a recipe for empty arenas.  The people in Toledo aren't going to go watch Wright State against Akron or Eastern Michigan.   Do it just like the ACC-Big 10 does.   TV would be nice but not necessary IMO.  It just gives us a game with a little more meaning than your standard OOC game. Plus it would be nice to have a chance to get Butler in Athens. Back to Top bigtillyoopsupsideurhead General User Member Since: 12/1/2006 Location: Cincinnati Post Count: 1,926 Status: Offline     RE: MAC-Horizon Challenge?    Posted: 6/3/2011 10:39:57 AM  OUVan wrote: oubobcatjohn wrote: Instead of renting out the NBA arenas they could play on campus and have 4 host schools bid on the games. Maybee play 3 games in three nites where we play CSU, Wright State and Youngstown State.  Butler would have the money to support it. Maybee Toledo and perhaps UW Milwaukee puts up the money.  Our ability to outbid the other schools in our bracket to host would be likely. By having the biding that would generate some money for the two conferences.   I still think that's a recipe for empty arenas.  The people in Toledo aren't going to go watch Wright State against Akron or Eastern Michigan.   Do it just like the ACC-Big 10 does.   TV would be nice but not necessary IMO.  It just gives us a game with a little more meaning than your standard OOC game. Plus it would be nice to have a chance to get Butler in Athens. I agree, this doesn't work unless its at home sites. Outside of Kent or Akron getting Butler at the Q, I don't think any non-campus sites would work at all. Back to Top brucecuth General User Member Since: 12/21/2004 Post Count: 1,837 Status: Offline     RE: MAC-Horizon Challenge?    Posted: 6/5/2011 9:17:58 PM  i think it's great...but agree that it has to be campus sites only... 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