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Topic: And the beat goes on (so to speak) for Bassett

Topic: And the beat goes on (so to speak) for Bassett

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Pataskala
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And the beat goes on (so to speak) for Bassett

Posted: 7/13/2011 9:05:13 PM

Getting sued for $275,000 by the Courtside bouncer:

http://thepost.ohiou.edu/content/courtside-bouncer-sues-b...

This has settlement bait written all over it. Actual damages are only for the nose; humiliation and stress aren't likely to be winners since they're basically punitive damages (unless they have some doctors' bills or other facts, like loss of a job, to back them up), but they can probably settle for $100k or so and save Bassett some hassle and attorney's fees.

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RE: And the beat goes on (so to speak) for Bassett

Posted: 7/13/2011 10:26:22 PM

Does insurance cover that (personal liability) or does #0 have to cover it out of his checking account?

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RE: And the beat goes on (so to speak) for Bassett

Posted: 7/13/2011 10:50:36 PM

Insurance will not cover this. Especially when negligence is admitted.

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RE: And the beat goes on (so to speak) for Bassett

Posted: 7/15/2011 1:04:47 PM

Where is he going to get 100K? Is he playing professionally somewhere?

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RE: And the beat goes on (so to speak) for Bassett

Posted: 7/15/2011 1:23:39 PM

He's not going to get 100k anywhere, which means the bouncer is wasting his time.

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RE: And the beat goes on (so to speak) for Bassett

Posted: 7/15/2011 6:03:54 PM

Andrew Ruck wrote:

He's not going to get 100k anywhere, which means the bouncer is wasting his time.

Why not? Problem is Bassett admitted negligence, he already lost that end of the suit, any medical bill will be automatic and then damages. If you are approaching this from he has no money, well there are ways to get blood from a turnip.

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RE: And the beat goes on (so to speak) for Bassett

Posted: 7/15/2011 7:14:38 PM

BattleCat wrote:

Andrew Ruck wrote:

He's not going to get 100k anywhere, which means the bouncer is wasting his time.

Yeah, but are they legal?

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RE: And the beat goes on (so to speak) for Bassett

Posted: 7/15/2011 10:00:52 PM

Yep, very legal.

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RE: And the beat goes on (so to speak) for Bassett

Posted: 7/16/2011 4:08:15 PM

He could probably be awarded some of Bassett's future earnings.

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RE: And the beat goes on (so to speak) for Bassett

Posted: 7/18/2011 8:41:36 PM

"Willis suffered a fractured nose, debilitating humiliation and stress from the incident."

Hahaha! That is completely insane. Did this kid not hear the news that Bassett did NOT get drafted? I could see maybe 5k or 10k or whatever the medical costs were plus a little extra but 250k is farcical. Plus the dude was a bouncer at Courtside, humiliation and stress comes with the territory!

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RE: And the beat goes on (so to speak) for Bassett

Posted: 7/19/2011 11:22:51 AM

I bet Judge Judy would give him money to cover his medical costs and tell him to stop being a big baby.

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RE: And the beat goes on (so to speak) for Bassett

Posted: 7/19/2011 12:49:31 PM

It's fairly routine for a claimant/plaintiff to ask for two or three times more money than he realistically expects to get. It doesn't necessarily indicate gold-digging or malingering.

I disagree with the tenor of the latest posts in this thread. Bassett, with everything in the world to be happy about at that time (and capable of being the toast of the town) sucker punched a guy while he wasn't looking just because he wouldn't give the student-athlete preferential treatment (I use the term student-athlete loosely in Bassett's case). In my view, good luck to the bouncer. I hope he gets $75,000 in garnishment from Armon's Chick-fil-A wages in Terre Haute.

Kyle Kozak should probably be thinking about a legal defense strategy, too. If he loses a lawsuit, it wouldn't be the first time he had his @$$ handed to him in a courthouse.

Really, the blame the victim thing gets old. Let's stop bringing problem children to Athens.

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RE: And the beat goes on (so to speak) for Bassett

Posted: 7/19/2011 1:03:31 PM

PutnamField wrote:

Really, the blame the victim thing gets old. Let's stop bringing problem children to Athens.

Come on, now...there's a lot of blame to go around in both situations. While Bassett and Kozak were way out of line, there was no doubt some provocation on the other end. From what I've heard, both were highly provoked verbally (Bassett) and physically (Kozak) into the situation. We're not talking poor, helpless kittens here as the victims.

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RE: And the beat goes on (so to speak) for Bassett

Posted: 7/19/2011 3:03:07 PM

Does he really work at a Chick-fil-A? I don't believe there's one in Terre Haute, IN other than at Eastern Illinios University satellite location.

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RE: And the beat goes on (so to speak) for Bassett

Posted: 7/19/2011 4:29:20 PM

BobcatBigFish wrote:

PutnamField wrote:

Really, the blame the victim thing gets old. Let's stop bringing problem children to Athens.

Reasonable points to raise, BBF, if you've heard exculpatory (triple word score) things from sources you deem reliable. You're probably right that nobody should come out smelling like a rose. From my understanding, though, nothing along the lines of provocation has been reported in Bassett's case except that the bouncer perhaps moved him out of the way when he cut in line. Not as much has been reported re: Kozak's case, which hasn't gone through court yet, and I haven't seen the police reports.

But there were preexisting, potential character issues with each of them before either set foot in Athens.

Regarding Kozak, I think it's fair to say that most of us have been involved in unpleasant interactions Uptown, but we didn't hit women or throw bricks. Nobody else was charged in connection with this incident, right? Legally speaking, there's no justification for major violence unless it's in self-defense or defending someone else. The dude (Kozak) is huge - I doubt that his physical well-being was seriously threatened. Maybe I'm wrong, though.

Chicken George wrote:

Does he really work at a Chick-fil-A? I don't believe there's one in Terre Haute, IN other than at Eastern Illinios University satellite location.

That tidbit was a joke. Maybe a bad one, but a joke nonetheless.

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RE: And the beat goes on (so to speak) for Bassett

Posted: 7/19/2011 4:40:46 PM

Courtside is still as rowdy as ever, and still packed with athletes.

Last Edited: 7/19/2011 4:41:01 PM by The Optimist

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RE: And the beat goes on (so to speak) for Bassett

Posted: 7/19/2011 11:05:16 PM

Another case of a lawsuit that would never come to fruition if America would just have a "loser pays" court system.

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RE: And the beat goes on (so to speak) for Bassett

Posted: 7/20/2011 4:22:21 PM

Andrew Ruck wrote:

Another case of a lawsuit that would never come to fruition if America would just have a "loser pays" court system.

Because it'll get settled out of court (like it probably will anyway)?

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RE: And the beat goes on (so to speak) for Bassett

Posted: 7/26/2011 8:58:16 AM

JSF wrote:

Andrew Ruck wrote:

Another case of a lawsuit that would never come to fruition if America would just have a "loser pays" court system.

Because it'll get settled out of court (like it probably will anyway)?

Because if the bouncer was faced with the prospect of losing lots of money on this, he wouldn't have ever filed the suit.

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RE: And the beat goes on (so to speak) for Bassett

Posted: 7/26/2011 9:52:30 AM

Loser pays might keep a lot of righteous plaintiffs out of court. Especially given the deep pockets of many defendants. There are rules against abuse of process. Maybe they should be enforced more. But the threat of financial loss should not be a deterrent to justice--especially in light of sometimes unexplainable court results.

It's just not a good way to go. It's not part of the judicial system for good reason.

Loser pays might be incentive to many deep-pocket bad peoples to go rampant knowing that plaintiffs might be deterred from asserting their rights.

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RE: And the beat goes on (so to speak) for Bassett

Posted: 7/26/2011 1:20:49 PM

Remember moderators...Off topic discussion is totally acceptable in July.

I see the basis of your point Monroe, but you gotta see the other point of view. Only in America can I sue you for completely bogus reasons, force you to spend a fortune on a defense all while damaging your image...And if we go thru the entire process and a judge rules my claims are false...I walk away without having to pay you anything and never even have to say I'm sorry...meanwhile your image may never be completely restored and you may have spent your life savings defending yourself.

Many many innocent defendants are forced to settle because it is cheaper than defending. It's tough to support a system that forces innocent defendants to settle. Bottom line, a plaintiff should be confident. If they're not confident, more often than not they don't have a very good case to begin with. With Loser Pays, a completely ridiculous case like Ohio State suing Ohio for using the name Ohio would never have come to fruition. That is reason alone to support it.

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RE: And the beat goes on (so to speak) for Bassett

Posted: 7/26/2011 2:24:48 PM

Andrew Ruck wrote:

Remember moderators...Off topic discussion is totally acceptable in July.

Yeah, we understand...but we still have a nice excursion train ready to leave for Yahutsk at a moment's notice.

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RE: And the beat goes on (so to speak) for Bassett

Posted: 7/26/2011 3:00:41 PM

Somehow that "town vs. gown" thread stayed on the football page...

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RE: And the beat goes on (so to speak) for Bassett

Posted: 7/26/2011 5:33:01 PM

I don't know about the rest of you, but at least in central Ohio we could use a brief dose of Siberia right now. At least my tomato plants are doing well.

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RE: And the beat goes on (so to speak) for Bassett

Posted: 7/26/2011 7:36:46 PM

Joe McKinley wrote:

I don't know about the rest of you, but at least in central Ohio we could use a brief dose of Siberia right now. At least my tomato plants are doing well.

I imagine the Meigs County crops are also doin well.

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