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Topic: 53 is the loneliest number in college basketball

Topic: 53 is the loneliest number in college basketball

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wellstoncat
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53 is the loneliest number in college basketball

Posted: 6/14/2011 8:37:07 PM

I seen this story on the number 53 in basketball. Only seven players wear it. With one being our own Ethan Jacobs. this is link to story seeing the Ohio jersey is what got my attention.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/blog/the_dagger/post/Why-these-players-chose-the-sport-8217-s-least-?urn=ncaab-wp3343

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bornacatfan
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RE: 53 is the loneliest number in college basketball

Posted: 6/15/2011 9:05:28 AM

His HS number was 44.

Still needs a big man coach and lots of hours. The desire and mind are there. Mold him, push him and give him what he has not had since he started playing hoops. Personal attention and coaching.

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RE: 53 is the loneliest number in college basketball

Posted: 6/15/2011 9:54:26 AM

I saw this yesterday when my yahoo.com popped up. This morning the story is still there with his picture. Pretty neat!

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RE: 53 is the loneliest number in college basketball

Posted: 6/15/2011 10:43:31 AM

Interesting, Borna, that you feel Ethan needs a big man coach. I've wondered about the wisdom of having a former point guard coaching our bigs. You share this concern?

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RE: 53 is the loneliest number in college basketball

Posted: 6/15/2011 11:34:14 AM

SBH wrote:

I've wondered about the wisdom of having a former point guard coaching our bigs. You share this concern?

You keep banging this drum despite a wealth of forward improvement in Groce's three years.

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RE: 53 is the loneliest number in college basketball

Posted: 6/15/2011 1:41:42 PM

SBH wrote:

Interesting, Borna, that you feel Ethan needs a big man coach. I've wondered about the wisdom of having a former point guard coaching our bigs. You share this concern?

MMMMM I think Dustin does a nice job with our Big men. I think time at a Big Man camp and more time individualzed would help catch him up. He came out of a 4 guard offense with a coach who was trying to get his kid looks form coaches. WIth Derek Elston one year ahead of him Ethan really got short changed. Holtmann and Groce have a diamond but it needs a lot of polishing. Ethan is running open gyms and workiing hard individually and in the weight room here at home, like Tommy he has a standing invite at most open gyms taking place at schools around the state.

I am not the one who knows whether D Ford has the pedigree and ongoing desire to keep getting better coaching the Big DOgs. I know that under the O SHea regime between his frosh and soph year I had to bring TOmmy home and start 3 feet in front of the basket and break his shot down to the basics after he had big men destroy what we had built. That was a rough summer but one shot at a time we got the form back in order starting back at 5th grade and reworking it step by step. Paid off pretty well in the long run.

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RE: 53 is the loneliest number in college basketball

Posted: 6/15/2011 1:51:24 PM

JSF wrote:

SBH wrote:

I've wondered about the wisdom of having a former point guard coaching our bigs. You share this concern?

You keep banging this drum despite a wealth of forward improvement in Groce's three years.

And you are talking like you have amassed a wealth of knowledge that enables you to use a crystal ball to use to say that is the best they could have been. Those players were going to get better just because Groce is good at emphazing persoanl developpement and has guys in places to help. Is the staff doing as well as they could with someone who played the postion? I am not taking a stand here because I think Dustin is good but you can't just take SBH and deny that it is a good question because they improved. TO be honest there was a huge drop off in the wings improvement when Holtmann left, I have voiced my opinion and will stick by it. Guarantee an extra year under Holtmann and no one would have been bitching about his one dimensionality. Chris was tdeveloping the mid range and off the dribble game when he left.

I respect your stance but I also think it is a valid point that SBH is asking. I played the wing, I am not sure I understand to this day how a big man plays back to the basket. If you have some idea of what they see and how they know when to go up and under or over the top then I guess you are farther along than I. WHen I put my 5th graders together next year I willgladly bring you in to teach the post which I find awfully difficult even at that level.

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RE: 53 is the loneliest number in college basketball

Posted: 6/15/2011 5:42:31 PM

JSF wrote:

SBH wrote:

I've wondered about the wisdom of having a former point guard coaching our bigs. You share this concern?

You keep banging this drum despite a wealth of forward improvement in Groce's three years.

Please document improvement in Reggie Keely's game. He actually regressed from year one to year two. And frankly I wonder if I as the parent of a talented high school big man would send my son to a school where he'd be tutored by someone who never played the position.

You think perhaps the presence of John Rhodes on O'Shea's staff helped in recruiting bigs? I have a feeling it did.

Last Edited: 6/15/2011 5:48:56 PM by SBH

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RE: 53 is the loneliest number in college basketball

Posted: 6/15/2011 6:30:51 PM

bornacatfan wrote:

JSF wrote:

SBH wrote:

I've wondered about the wisdom of having a former point guard coaching our bigs. You share this concern?

You keep banging this drum despite a wealth of forward improvement in Groce's three years.

What in the world are you saying I'm saying? I never said the staff is the best it could be. I did say SBH constantly brings this point up and he gives me the impression he thinks there's not development of forwards. I don't think that's true at all (to the point about Reggie Keely, it's mental. The skills are there). Just because someone is tall doesn't mean they can coach. Example A: Patrick Ewing. And just because someone is short doesn't mean they can't coach.

And I never said I teach low post moves. Where is this coming from?

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RE: 53 is the loneliest number in college basketball

Posted: 6/16/2011 2:06:22 AM

I think the improvement of Baltic last year is a good sign. Keely had been a solid player in his first two seasons. He got a lot of playing time. I think Keely will be a strong player for us the next two seasons. Now that Washington is gone it gives Keely a chance to be a starter with Baltic. Smith should be a nice role player for us. These three players have plenty of eligibility left. These players are just halfway thru their college careers. Baltic and Keely are gonna be big time by the end of their seniors seasons. If they stay healthy and continue to get better they could be one of the better frontline combo's in the MAC.

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RE: 53 is the loneliest number in college basketball

Posted: 6/20/2011 3:51:43 PM

I was taught the low post was all about "feel" and split second decision making. Of course, you must work on all the moves such as the drop step, hook, baby hook and turn around jumper, and all the liitle spins and reverse spins off the glass around the basket. You can work on those things all day long by yourself. In the game you have to develop the feel for the defender which will dictate your move. When the defense collapses on you, the decision making ability to find the open man is a key skill. Of all the sins I see post players make, it's holding the ball too long before making a play. That, and not asking for the ball. If your teammates done't have confidence in you, you won't see the ball.

I wore 52/53 in high school and loved 52. In those days we wore even numbers at home and odd on the road. I wore 31 freshman year, then switched to 52 the next year. I don't remember that 53 was available.

Last Edited: 6/20/2011 3:56:17 PM by giacomo

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RE: 53 is the loneliest number in college basketball

Posted: 7/20/2011 11:43:06 PM

Not to sound like I'm making a statement like TOS' famous tribute to the skills of Bota, but I think if Ivo improves as much between year 2 and year 3, as he did between year 1 and 2, and then continues that into his senior year, he could be legitimate NBA draft material. I'm very impressed with that young man's attitude, work ethic and skill set. He needs a lot of continued improvement to see his true potential, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him really blossom in these next two years to become an all-time Ohio great.

Last Edited: 7/20/2011 11:44:41 PM by OhioCatFan

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RE: 53 is the loneliest number in college basketball

Posted: 7/23/2011 1:02:21 PM

That's a bold prediction on Baltic. To be drafted these days is very difficult. There have been many players with impressive credentials that never got drafted. Only two rounds now, plus all the foreign players.

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RE: 53 is the loneliest number in college basketball

Posted: 7/23/2011 6:38:35 PM

I'm a believer in Baltic. Ivo is due for a HUGE year.

I've seen crazier things happen.

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