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Voice of Reason
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DJ!

Posted: 12/12/2011 12:12:55 PM

Gets a plug in the ESPN weekly watch. Is a Triple Double enough to silence the shot selection critics? He is the best PG in Ohio Bobcat Basketball history! I swear some people on this board could win a million dollars and be critical of the serial numbers sequence on the bills they were given.

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RE: DJ!

Posted: 12/12/2011 12:17:40 PM

Voice of Reason wrote:

Can we also stop pretending like this kid isn't working everyday to get better and improve his game. It doesn't happen overnight.

#TeamDJ

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RE: DJ!

Posted: 12/13/2011 12:01:35 AM

Mac East POW, and ESPN spotlight - after a week with better shot selection, and lot's of assists. Yes - he is getting better by the week!

Last Edited: 12/13/2011 12:02:36 AM by RSBobcat

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RE: DJ!

Posted: 12/13/2011 12:14:02 AM

The negative comments about DJ are WAYYYY blown out of proportion here. People act like the tone of the board is everyone hates him and wants him off the team. There are a handful of posters who emphatically believe he has poor shot selection, a bunch more who lightly state he takes some bad shots at times. There was ONE poster who had some pretty anti-DJ comments. ONE.

In fact, I don't recall an Ohio player having more universal fan support than DJ in a long long time.

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RE: DJ!

Posted: 12/13/2011 12:50:20 AM

I have to admit, I'm a DJ fan! He makes this team go. At the end of the day, we need DJ to do his thing!!!

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RE: DJ!

Posted: 12/13/2011 12:57:32 AM

Andrew Ruck wrote:

There are a handful of posters who emphatically believe he has poor shot selection

I'm one of those. That doesn't mean I hate DJ by any stretch of the imagination. I don't think I've ever seen an Ohio player as breathtaking as he. We have constructive criticism, not negativity. We want to seem him firing on all cylinders- doesn't everyone? He just put up a triple-double and nobody was surprised.

It's sort of like the problem Roger Federer had. When somebody is so good, one or two weaknesses get magnified. We're surprised he has a chink in his armor.

Last Edited: 12/13/2011 12:58:09 AM by JSF

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RE: DJ!

Posted: 12/13/2011 2:22:25 AM

JSF wrote:

He just put up a triple-double and nobody was surprised.

I think that quote sums things up quite succinctly.

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RE: DJ!

Posted: 12/13/2011 3:11:33 AM

anorris wrote:

JSF wrote:

He just put up a triple-double and nobody was surprised.

I think that quote sums things up quite succinctly.

I'm not surprised at all. However, as I mentioned on the MAC board, I (as well as others on this board) am surprised that it took as long as it did. He's been really close a handful of times and I'm glad he finally pulled it off.

Congrats DJ on the triple-double!

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RE: DJ!

Posted: 12/14/2011 9:29:44 AM

I think DJ's freshman year success and last year's "team letdown" may shadow his overall success. The kid is not only just a shooter, hence the triple-double he just put up. It seems like every game he leads the team in some category whether it be points, steals, rebounds, or assists. Why people bash him on his shooting ability I don't know. Because if he's not shooting the ball well, he's carrying the team in another category.

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RE: DJ!

Posted: 12/14/2011 10:44:35 AM

PLipps09 wrote:

Why people bash him on his shooting ability I don't know. Because if he's not shooting the ball well, he's carrying the team in another category.

I completely understand why people complain about his shooting. I've been a big defender of his on these threads but I think we've all thrown up our hands in exasperation at some of his shots. The argument I have is with those that make it out to be a bigger deal than it is or call for him to be benched. But everybody on the team except maybe Nick Kellogg has been guilty of taking ill advised shots yet it rarely gets mentioned.

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RE: DJ!

Posted: 12/14/2011 10:51:15 AM

PLipps09 wrote:

Why people bash him on his shooting ability I don't know.

I don't believe it's so much his shooting ability most here are critical of as his shot selection. I agree with JSF. I think he is a dynamic player who is essential to OUr success and one of my all time favorites. That being said, there are still times when I throw my hands up in the air and say "why?!" when he launches a 35 footer with 25 seconds still on the shot clock and no big men under the basket.

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RE: DJ!

Posted: 12/14/2011 12:53:05 PM

Yea, I didn't word that properly.

Yea, his shot selection at times is questionable. But I think we are "nit-picking?" at his decisions. He is the leader of the team and has been for 2+ years now. I don't think it's the shot selection we should be worried about. He does throw up long bombs, but he does it when he's open. The real worry is rebounding when he does shoot. We were in the Louisville game the whole game and couldn't grab defensive or offensive boards. And when we are rebounding, its Cooper in there getting some. I'll say this, he does a better job at HIS position than anybody else on the team does at theirs. We can criticize him all we want. It probably makes him better. But it's the others that need to step up their game.

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RE: DJ!

Posted: 12/14/2011 4:04:25 PM

I get why people think it's nit-picking. The reason why I get on his shot selection and shooting percentage is because he has the most shot attempts on the team by far. Coming into tonight, he has taken 107 shots. Offutt is second with 75. I would be a lot less uneasy with his below-average shooting if he didn't put it up so much.

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Posted: 12/14/2011 4:49:26 PM

Well his % is low BECAUSE he takes so many shots. If his shooting % were down and his shots were down, then we would have a problem. He also leads the team in PPG and MPG and overall points. I just don't think that the leader of our team should be getting the criticism he does when there are plenty (and I say plenty, but we're a good team right now) of other problems that we can magnify if we are going to pick on his problems.

Last Edited: 12/14/2011 5:08:09 PM by PLipps09

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RE: DJ!

Posted: 12/14/2011 5:29:36 PM

PLipps09 wrote:

Well his % is low BECAUSE he takes so many shots.

Not true in DJ's case. He took more shots in his sophomore year and made them at a higher percentage than his freshman year. He's shooting 42% from 2 this year (close to his career numbers) and 22% from 3. He's just not a good three-point shooter, yet he continues to shoot a lot of threes.

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He also leads the team in PPG and MPG and overall points.

PPG and overall points are not good ways to evaluate a player.

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I just don't think that the leader of our team should be getting the criticism he does when there are plenty (and I say plenty, but we're a good team right now) of other problems that we can magnify if we are going to pick on his problems.

There is criticism of other players. Smith tends to play soft. Ivo can't relax out there and isn't going with the flow. It's not an either/or proposition here; we can talk about anyone and everyone. And I don't understand why being good should make you immune. Speaking for myself, I want DJ to be the best player possible. I see a weakness in his game and I point it out. I don't use malicious language or say he's a bad player. Why is this out of bounds?

The ironic thing is this gets blown out of proportion not by the people who make these criticisms but by the people who apparently get upset by them. We get accused of harping on it, but that's because people like the OP bring it up and we defend our positions. If this thread had not been started, nobody would be saying anything right now. DJ played great in Portland. Nobody was unhappy with his performance, yet we're having this conversation again. I didn't start it.

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RE: DJ!

Posted: 12/14/2011 5:32:07 PM

PLipps09 wrote:

Well his % is low BECAUSE he takes so many shots.

That's pretty much the definition of poor shot selection. He needs to know which shots are low percentage and stop taking them so frequently.

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RE: DJ!

Posted: 12/15/2011 10:02:19 AM

Some of you must be some of the same people that I work with.

Hint: comments upon a player's weak spot(s) is not necessarily bashing. It may merely be hoping that a player develops his game, removing the bad stuff and improving his overall play.

It is usually not at all meant as a personal dig. It's merely recognition that a player has further potential.

Learn to stop thinking that something is a personal criticism and may well be, instead, well-intended advice for improvement.

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RE: DJ!

Posted: 12/23/2011 3:27:15 AM

I know it's not a major network article or anything, but it was featured on foxsports.com. That has to account for something right?

http://network.yardbarker.com/college_basketball/article_...

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RE: DJ!

Posted: 12/25/2011 9:07:27 AM

Why cant we point out flaws? If Cooper was perfect, he wouldnt be here. He still has a great deal of time to continue develop and become even more amazing. Perfect? Wouldnt that be great? Yea, it would. Ill settle for Amazing though.

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