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Back to Top JSF General User Member Since: 1/29/2005 Location: Houston, TX Post Count: 6,554 Status: Offline     RE: TJ Hall    Posted: 1/16/2012 12:16:41 PM  TJ looks really good on the drive. I'm with you in wanting to see him do that more. "Loyalty to a hometown or city is fleeting and interchangeable, but college is a stamp of identity."- Kyle Whelliston, One Beautiful Season. My blog about depression and mental illness: https://bit.ly/3buGXH8 Back to Top RSBobcat General User Member Since: 8/22/2010 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 4,437 Status: Offline     RE: TJ Hall    Posted: 1/16/2012 7:40:31 PM  "Drive" = "Motion". Seems to me he camps out on the perimeter to much. We need more ball movement and "motion" overall - create open lanes for anyone to drive. RS Bobcat Back to Top Chicken George General User Member Since: 1/2/2005 Post Count: 765 Status: Offline     RE: TJ Hall    Posted: 1/16/2012 11:16:07 PM  RS, we agree!  TJ does "camp out" on the perimeter during most/all possessions.  He's shown glimses of being able to drive and play around the hoop a few times.  With his inconsistent 3-ball, along with us needing more slashing and less 3 ball shots, I'd like to see him develop a little more into a guy that can do more than sit in the corner waiting on a long jumper.  I'm not really sure if TJ or anyone else knows what his game really is.  But if I had to describe him today, I'd say an inconsistent, spot up 3 point shooter. Back to Top bornacatfan General User Member Since: 8/3/2006 Post Count: 5,716 Status: Offline     RE: TJ Hall    Posted: 1/17/2012 1:54:27 AM  Chicken George wrote: RS, we agree!  TJ does "camp out" on the perimeter during most/all possessions.  He's shown glimses of being able to drive and play around the hoop a few times.  With his inconsistent 3-ball, along with us needing more slashing and less 3 ball shots, I'd like to see him develop a little more into a guy that can do more than sit in the corner waiting on a long jumper.  I'm not really sure if TJ or anyone else knows what his game really is.  But if I had to describe him today, I'd say an inconsistent, spot up 3 point shooter. Perhaps that is what he is told to do. THat may be his position.  Doesn't matter what you would like to see if he is not supposed to do that....Just sayin......not that it has happened before or anything. never argue with idiots, they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. Winter comes and asks how you spent your summer..... The game loves and rewards those who love and reward the game Back to Top SBH General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 4,288 Status: Offline     RE: TJ Hall    Posted: 1/17/2012 8:35:34 AM  If he is being told to hoist threes rather than penetrate, our problems are bigger than I thought. He's 10-39 from 3-point land.  That's not "inconsistent"; it's consistently bad. Back to Top JSF General User Member Since: 1/29/2005 Location: Houston, TX Post Count: 6,554 Status: Offline     RE: TJ Hall    Posted: 1/17/2012 12:33:18 PM  bornacatfan wrote: Chicken George wrote: RS, we agree!  TJ does "camp out" on the perimeter during most/all possessions.  He's shown glimses of being able to drive and play around the hoop a few times.  With his inconsistent 3-ball, along with us needing more slashing and less 3 ball shots, I'd like to see him develop a little more into a guy that can do more than sit in the corner waiting on a long jumper.  I'm not really sure if TJ or anyone else knows what his game really is.  But if I had to describe him today, I'd say an inconsistent, spot up 3 point shooter. Perhaps that is what he is told to do. THat may be his position.  Doesn't matter what you would like to see if he is not supposed to do that....Just sayin......not that it has happened before or anything. It seems that our offense the last couple years doesn't incorporate a whole lot of driving, though your eyes are better trained than mine. "Loyalty to a hometown or city is fleeting and interchangeable, but college is a stamp of identity."- Kyle Whelliston, One Beautiful Season. My blog about depression and mental illness: https://bit.ly/3buGXH8 Back to Top Chicken George General User Member Since: 1/2/2005 Post Count: 765 Status: Offline     RE: TJ Hall    Posted: 1/17/2012 11:15:19 PM  I can just hear it being taught at practice now: John Groce (JG):  "Now DJ you're the top of the key 3 point shooter.  TJ you're the right wing 3 point shooter and Nick you get the left wing 3 point shooter.  Stevie when you come in you take 8 steps back and that's your 3 point shot.  Ivo, you shoot some more 3's this year.   You're allowed 11 for the year, so use them wisely.   Walter, you shoot 3's too, but you're allowed the drive as much as you want, but DJ is only allowed to drive a little bit." TJ:  Am I not allowed to drive it to the bucket? JG:  Prefer you stay in your 3 point shooting spot and be ready to pop them in.. TJ:  But what if I'm cold as all get out?  You notice I haven't exactly been money this year from out there and the scouting reports seem to say to guard the arc.  What if other teams figure out all we do is shoot 3 pointers? Shouldn't we mix it up a little and keep them honest?  Maybe try some higher percentage shots when the bombs arent' falling.  We just doing the double threat position? JG:  Just listen and stay in your spot.  You'll get the ball kicked out to you for your open shot. TJ:  But coach, you just said Walter is the only one who's got the green light to drive and he usually doesn't dish it when in the paint.  And DJ can do it, but doesn't always do it.  Then consider our post guys are typically black holes, so who's going to dish it out to us consistently? JG:  Think 3 baby. TJ:  But I'm actually kind of tall and can help out in the paint a little bit, especially considering our size disadvantage in some game.  JG:  Stay the course TJ. Don't know much about hoops, but I just don't think so. Back to Top PutnamField General User Member Since: 9/20/2007 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 303 Status: Offline     RE: TJ Hall    Posted: 1/18/2012 4:15:38 AM  FWIW, Hall's listed as a power forward in the year-by-year recruiting class table that's on this Web site. Back to Top SBH General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 4,288 Status: Offline     RE: TJ Hall    Posted: 1/18/2012 8:26:36 AM  Great stuff, but Borna says you might be wrong, Chicken George.  And Borna knows everything, including the dangers of the 4 "P's," which he has outlined in vivid detail 2-3 times now. Last Edited: 1/18/2012 8:29:39 AM by SBH Back to Top Ohio69 General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 3,062 Status: Offline     RE: TJ Hall    Posted: 1/18/2012 11:22:55 AM  bornacatfan wrote: Chicken George wrote: RS, we agree!  TJ does "camp out" on the perimeter during most/all possessions.  He's shown glimses of being able to drive and play around the hoop a few times.  With his inconsistent 3-ball, along with us needing more slashing and less 3 ball shots, I'd like to see him develop a little more into a guy that can do more than sit in the corner waiting on a long jumper.  I'm not really sure if TJ or anyone else knows what his game really is.  But if I had to describe him today, I'd say an inconsistent, spot up 3 point shooter. Perhaps that is what he is told to do. THat may be his position.  Doesn't matter what you would like to see if he is not supposed to do that....Just sayin......not that it has happened before or anything. Funny.  And probably true.  Making us very predictable and easy to guard. It appears this program simply does not like to attack the rim.  I know folks had major issues with O'Shea.  But, when he had the right players, we attacked the rim with abandon.  And I loved it. Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?..... Back to Top Showing Replies:   1 - 11  of 11 Posts Jump to Page:   1 View Other 'Ohio Basketball' Topics                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               WHO'S ONLINE There are 175 Active Visitors on BobcatAttack.com 175 Guests 0 Registered Users There are no other users looking at this page.

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