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Topic: The worst (memories)

Topic: The worst (memories)

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FearLeon
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The worst (memories)

Posted: 1/21/2012 3:19:32 PM

Not being able to watch the most anticipated home game in the last 2 decades of OHIO Basketball. Absolutely ridiculous that we could not see the Trent ceremony. Even more ridiculous that the radio crew decided to not air the ceremony live on the radio...knowing that the video streaming wasn't working.

HORRIBLE DECISIONS MADE ALL THE WAY AROUND.

#BleedGreen #TrentIsGOAT

Matt Noonan
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RE: The worst (memories)

Posted: 1/21/2012 3:31:42 PM

To be fair... IMG owns our broadcast rights. Could have been their decision to maintain the normal broadcast format.

FearLeon
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RE: The worst (memories)

Posted: 1/21/2012 3:33:02 PM

Matt Noonan wrote:

To be fair... IMG owns our broadcast rights. Could have been their decision to maintain the normal broadcast format.

Even so, this was not a normal game. Why would you not want your radio audience to listen to the Trent ceremony? I would do everything I could to make this happen.

None of it makes sense.

#BleedGreen #TrentIsGOAT

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RE: The worst (memories)

Posted: 1/21/2012 3:38:56 PM

I agree... I'm just saying it might be premature to blame our guys and athletic dept

PutnamField
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RE: The worst (memories)

Posted: 1/21/2012 3:52:01 PM

I'm pretty sure you could've stuck an omnidirectional microphone in front of Russ and Rob, plugged it into the board or snake or whatever they use and gotten a decently audible signal to catch the halftime ceremony.

I've got an omni mic they could have borrowed.

Pretty pathetic IMHO.

Bobcat Grad 86
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RE: The worst (memories)

Posted: 1/21/2012 4:12:13 PM

The only things that sucks more than the lack of the broadcast is Miami!

Casper71
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RE: The worst (memories)

Posted: 1/21/2012 4:52:17 PM

This was not a normal day or game. You must be able to adjust to a once in 25/50 year thing and they didn't.

FearLeon
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RE: The worst (memories)

Posted: 1/21/2012 5:01:18 PM

I like our crew, but they absolutely dropped the ball on this. Bobcats from across the country were looking forward to watching and hearing this ceremony. Many of us changed plans to do this.

I'd really like to hear an explanation from Russ and the gang on this one. We have one of the best Broadcasting/Telecommunications schools in the country and we can't hook up a streaming feed properly? On top of that, no ceremony on the radio?? To me...that's the real kick in the you know what. Someone has to be smart of enough to say...alright..no video..we'll give you audio.

A back-up plan should have been in place for this once in a life-time event.

Beyond disappointed.

#BleedGreen #TrentIsGOAT

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RE: The worst (memories)

Posted: 1/21/2012 5:14:34 PM

The internet was pretty much down through out the building from what i hear, so that would be on the university

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RE: The worst (memories)

Posted: 1/21/2012 5:16:01 PM

I got the impression from Russ's comment during the game that the problem wasn't with the equipment at the Convo but with the broadband network in Athens. He said something about lots of people using the internet because of the weather. That could be.

Still, I agree that it was a HUGE mistake not to put the Trent ceremony on the radio feed. I don't care if IMG controls the format. This was a big day for OU sports and to not make special arrangements for this was lousy. The only thing they are concerned about is getting all the spots in and that's easily doable, even if you have to reprogram a computer or even do it (gasp) BY HUMAN HANDS. *&^%^&* decision on the part of the broadcast people.

Last Edited: 1/21/2012 11:26:05 PM by Jeff McKinney

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OUVan
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RE: The worst (memories)

Posted: 1/21/2012 5:19:49 PM

Frankly, I couldn't care less that the GT ceremony wasn't broadcast live. Even if they had wanted to they wouldn't have been able to carry the whole thing because halftime is when they pay their bills for the most part. I'm sure it will be on the website before too long and you'll be able to see it then. It sucks that the video didn't work but for the most part the FREE video service has been pretty dependable. Bad timing to be sure but not worth holding your breath over.

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RE: The worst (memories)

Posted: 1/21/2012 6:18:42 PM

Matt Noonan wrote:

To be fair... IMG owns our broadcast rights. Could have been their decision to maintain the normal broadcast format.

Uh, they may "own" the broadcast rights but they work of OU not the other way around. If this was indeed the reason, the contract needs to be renegotiated today. There are other options for marketing.

Matt Noonan
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RE: The worst (memories)

Posted: 1/21/2012 7:10:11 PM

FWIW, I don't know the exact agreement between Ohio/IMG...

But I do know that in most cases companies like IMG/Learfield pay the school to own the broadcast rights, and then sell the advertising themselves.

If that's the case at Ohio, then no matter how much we or the Athletic Dept wanted to have the halftime ceremonies on the broadcast, it would still be second priority to the sponsored network segments at halftime. There's a contract to uphold.

Sure, if it was just Ohio producing a local broadcast on Power 105, it might be a lot easier to call an audible mid-broadcast. But when you're going for a more "big time" approach with a multi-station network and network sponsors, you're a lot more constricted with what you can do.

Personally, I like everything the Athletic Dept has done in regard to multimedia the last 5 years. Today just seemed to be the perfect storm (literally) of problems out of their control.

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RE: The worst (memories)

Posted: 1/21/2012 8:41:48 PM

It is very very icy down here... Coming from a NEO kid...

I've seen crazier things happen.

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RE: The worst (memories)

Posted: 1/21/2012 11:29:33 PM

yeah, the whole thing was a "big time" approach.

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RE: The worst (memories)

Posted: 1/21/2012 11:38:51 PM

Casper71 wrote:

yeah, the whole thing was a "big time" approach.

As was discussed on CHAT today, don't promise something you can't deliver on. Russ posted on this site this week about what would happen with the webcast, but he really wasted his time due to no webcast. I think Russ does a great job, just for the record. I hope it is possible to archive any video they do have.

Matt Noonan
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RE: The worst (memories)

Posted: 1/22/2012 12:11:24 AM

Maybe I'm crazy, but I don't think it's ridiculous or shortsighted to promise something that has been going on regularly without a hitch for the last 3 years. Are you saying they should stop letting people know they have a live stream, since they can't guarantee 100% that it will work every time? Maybe TV stations shouldn't advertise their local news either, since there's always a chance of a power outage...

If this would've been the first time they tried it, yeah it would agree that it would have been stupid to promise anything. But nobody could have had any reasonable expectation that today's issues would occur.

I just think Evan, Russ and everyone else in the multimedia dept should be cut some slack in this instance, because 1) it was out of their control, and 2) without their work over the past few years, we wouldn't even have live streams to b**** about.

Keep up the good work guys.

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RE: The worst (memories)

Posted: 1/22/2012 1:07:17 AM

Matt Noonan wrote:

Maybe I'm crazy, but I don't think it's ridiculous or shortsighted to promise something that has been going on regularly without a hitch for the last 3 years.

without their work over the past few years, we wouldn't even have live streams to b**** about.

Keep up the good work guys.

There have been hitches before today.

I'm not saying anything specific was anyone's fault specifically, because I don't know how everything works in this area, and sometimes things happen that are unpreventable.

But you're acting like these guys are working out of the goodness of their hearts. That's ridiculous.

Russ Eisenstein made $35,000 in 2010 for a job that, according to some posters on this board, is part-time.

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RE: The worst (memories)

Posted: 1/22/2012 1:18:44 AM

PutnamField wrote:

You realize that Russ actually performed his designated task today even though the webcast wasn't working, right? Russ Eisenstein earns every penny of his $35K salary. And yes there have been hitches prior to today but they are rare and don't take away from the fact that it is free to the consumer. I watch a lot of streaming sporting events and we have a really good product.

PutnamField
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RE: The worst (memories)

Posted: 1/22/2012 1:41:50 AM

Hey, I don't know if not putting the ceremony on the radio was a result of the ISP contract or a decision made by the broadcast team.

I would say, let's try to find out more and be open to the possibility that people don't walk on water. Nothing accusatory has flown.

The bottom line is that there's room for improvement in the experience offered to fans, potential donors and others who for whatever reason show interest in ICA at OU. Not putting the ceremony on the radio was an apparent oopsie, especially in light of the video stream failure. No need for the "love it or leave it" attitude.

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RE: The worst (memories)

Posted: 1/22/2012 3:03:34 AM

now we're posting people's salaries? really?? so lame.

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RE: The worst (memories)

Posted: 1/22/2012 10:10:56 AM

the123kid wrote:

The internet was pretty much down through out the building from what i hear, so that would be on the university

WOW!!!!

I had 4 different devices , 3 android smartphones and an ACer notebook trying to keep up with Tommys game in the UK.. I have NEVER had a problem getting a link in the Convo. I could occassionally, during the game, get a score if I went through multipe screens and waits .....that explains why I couldn't get on...I kept tinkering with the settings and network connections and even uninstalled Boingo.....

to be honstthe statcast was way better than what happened on th e floor in front of me .....till the end of course

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RE: The worst (memories)

Posted: 1/22/2012 10:19:50 AM

perimeterpost wrote:

now we're posting people's salaries? really?? so lame.

Seriously. I realize it's public, but that doesn't mean you're not a putz if you post it.

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RE: The worst (memories)

Posted: 1/22/2012 10:32:32 AM

PutnamField wrote:

There have been hitches before today.
Russ Eisenstein made $35,000 in 2010 for a job that, according to some posters on this board, is part-time.

A couple of very good points.

On the old board I talked about this and foks poo pooed it. WHen I walk in I usually walk by the TV truck if there is one. I tyr to make the folks there know we appreciate them being there. I don't know what you call the guys walking around with rolls of cable on their shoulders but when I say "how's it going?" those guys ALLLLL roll their eyes and start into an expanation of how bad the wiring is and how it should be labelled some of being somewhat archaic for today's digital signals With that knowledge, ove the past 4 years, when I have seen a turck on the road , I ask the same question and if they have a positive answer, I ask why it was so easy....generallly I have found that certain places have responded to getting things on air by upgrading their broadcast ability. I have often wondered if part of the reason why we dont get more video is because crews do not like coming here. Perhaps those who are growing in numbers and watching this free product could earmark donations toward that upgrade.

On the subject of RUss....I dunno what other Universities pay their guys but doing a live show on Monday nights, giving us the previews and post views, doing the research before every game, being onthe road, putting himself in a pretty good positon with the opposition and being on his best behaviour whilst living in Ahens and NOT commuting to and from is a lot to do for a young upwardly mobile professional if htat is truly his salary. Having survived Warren and lookig at the quality of the other MAC schools announcers and the product surrounding the program....we do much better with RUss.

Please do NOT sleep on these subjects as they are improtant and if you like the product generally voice your concerns in a positive way that the school will do the neccessary upgrades to the physial side of things and retain the talent we currently have and prepare for when that talent moves on....

Just MHO....

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RE: The worst (memories)

Posted: 1/22/2012 12:47:29 PM

bornacatfan wrote:

PutnamField wrote:

There have been hitches before today.
Russ Eisenstein made $35,000 in 2010 for a job that, according to some posters on this board, is part-time.

Born,

Good points. I mentioned in an earlier post that I like Russ and the job he does. He is the best play-by-play guy in the MAC. My anger with all of this, more than anything, is that the Trent Ceremony should have been live on the radio....especially after the video streaming went down.

I've spent 20 years in broadcasting and it's a no brainer to make the entire half-time show around Gary so that Bobcat alums across the country could listen to it. I can't imagine that Russ and the crew did not even discuss doing this weeks leading up to the event. Russ really needs to explain this and they could have gotten around the whole sponsorship issue...it's not that hard to do.

#BleedGreen #TrentIsGOAT

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