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Topic:  OHIO finishes 24-7, What's Our NCAA At-Large Chance Should we Not Win Tournament
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Chicken George
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  Message Not Read  OHIO finishes 24-7, What's Our NCAA At-Large Chance Should we Not Win Tournament
   Posted: 2/2/2012 11:42:13 AM 

OHIO finishes 24-7, What's Our NCAA At-Large Chance Should we Not Win Tournament
 
 
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In the last poll most of you picked 24-7 as our final regular season record.  After the BrackBuster snub and despite Lunardi/Bilas giving us some thought we're a bubble team, I'm thinking 0% chance should we get bounced in MAC Tournament.  Wanted to see what you all felt.
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  Message Not Read  RE: OHIO finishes 24-7, What's Our NCAA At-Large Chance Should we Not Win Tournament
   Posted: 2/2/2012 1:31:04 PM 
Sadly, I agree with you.
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  Message Not Read  RE: OHIO finishes 24-7, What's Our NCAA At-Large Chance Should we Not Win Tournament
   Posted: 2/2/2012 1:32:28 PM 
I say MAYBE losing one more game between now and the MAC tournament could get at large sentiment.  That would have to include Akron losing more than once so that Ohio is at least tied for the regular season best record.  I'd also say we have to get to the MAC Championship game to get consideration of an at-large.
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  Message Not Read  RE: OHIO finishes 24-7, What's Our NCAA At-Large Chance Should we Not Win Tournament
   Posted: 2/2/2012 1:38:56 PM 
Who are we losing to?

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  Message Not Read  RE: OHIO finishes 24-7, What's Our NCAA At-Large Chance Should we Not Win Tournament
   Posted: 2/2/2012 1:55:11 PM 
It's a one-bid league.  24-7 might get us a home game in the first round of the NIT.

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  Message Not Read  RE: OHIO finishes 24-7, What's Our NCAA At-Large Chance Should we Not Win Tournament
   Posted: 2/2/2012 2:23:12 PM 
bobcat695 wrote:
It's a one-bid league.  24-7 might get us a home game in the first round of the NIT.


If Akron wins out and loses in the tournament final they get an at large. If we win out and lose in the tournament final we probably get a bid.

If we lose three more times we not only don't get an NCAA bid we don't get an NIT bid.  11-5 doesn't get you second place in the MAC.  It would probably get us our first ever bye however.
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  Message Not Read  RE: OHIO finishes 24-7, What's Our NCAA At-Large Chance Should we Not Win Tournament
   Posted: 2/2/2012 2:27:32 PM 
I ran some numbers. If Ohio wins out all the way to the MAC title game and loses there (28-5), it would finish around 48th in the RPI. Of course, that's given all things staying equal (all of our opponents performing at their current level, opponents' opponets also and other teams in the RPI playing at about the same level) so it could be a little higher or lower. Losing one other time (27-6) would put the Bobcats around 58th and two losses (26-7) would put the Bobcats at about 69th. Apparently, we're talking about finishing the regular season 24-7, so add one win and one loss in the MAC tournament and the RPI would be something like 77th.

Based on that analysis, I can confidently say if Ohio goes 24-7 in the regular season, it will not get in the NCAA tournament. Really, the Bobcats probably would have to win out until the MAC finals to get into the RPI top 50 and get any real consideration.
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  Message Not Read  RE: OHIO finishes 24-7, What's Our NCAA At-Large Chance Should we Not Win Tournament
   Posted: 2/2/2012 2:32:15 PM 
UpSan Bobcat wrote:
I ran some numbers. If Ohio wins out all the way to the MAC title game and loses there (28-5), it would finish around 48th in the RPI. Of course, that's given all things staying equal (all of our opponents performing at their current level, opponents' opponets also and other teams in the RPI playing at about the same level) so it could be a little higher or lower. Losing one other time (27-6) would put the Bobcats around 58th and two losses (26-7) would put the Bobcats at about 69th. Apparently, we're talking about finishing the regular season 24-7, so add one win and one loss in the MAC tournament and the RPI would be something like 77th.

Based on that analysis, I can confidently say if Ohio goes 24-7 in the regular season, it will not get in the NCAA tournament. Really, the Bobcats probably would have to win out until the MAC finals to get into the RPI top 50 and get any real consideration.

Your research backs my opinion.  We all know it takes a huge win number AND a MAC title game appearance to get the conversation started about at-large.  In the end, 25+ wins is a great thing no matter what.  NIT or NCAA tournament.  It's been a great year so far.
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  Message Not Read  RE: OHIO finishes 24-7, What's Our NCAA At-Large Chance Should we Not Win Tournament
   Posted: 2/2/2012 3:02:34 PM 
OUVan wrote:
If we lose three more times we not only don't get an NCAA bid we don't get an NIT bid.  11-5 doesn't get you second place in the MAC.  It would probably get us our first ever bye however.


We had a bye in O'Shea's last season, didn't we?

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  Message Not Read  RE: OHIO finishes 24-7, What's Our NCAA At-Large Chance Should we Not Win Tournament
   Posted: 2/2/2012 5:03:25 PM 
We did. Finished 4th, got a bye, and lost to Miami in the Thursday night game of the MAC Tournament.
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